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"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] inter nlDOTnet> wrote:
> This is the final version (for the time being) of a scene developed and
> discussed on the French POV-Ray n.g. The title refers to Coleridge's poem
> Kubla Khan: "In Xanadu did Kubla Khan / A stately pleasure-dome decree."
Stately indeed.
I love the dome, very nice, very credible in size. It does bother me that the
man in the foreground obscures it though! Trees and mountains look amazing, and
the cars really fit in, they make it feel like 1920s Egypt or something (not
that I was ever there ;-)
If this is an ongoing work, I look forward to the next instalment!
(How long did this take to render, by the way?)
Bill
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"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlDOTnet> wrote in message
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> "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> schreef in bericht news:490035b1@news.povray.org...
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>> Well, this might work:
>>
>> Produce just a palm trunk in PovTree. And then produce just the
>> palm leaves, (so you have two files).
>>
>> Place your palm trunks, and then place and rotate your palm leaves
>> so that they look like they're blowing in the wind.
>
> Thanks Steve. I shall have to think about this a bit. This might work
> indeed without too much trouble. It might give me some other ideas as
> well...
I haven't tried it with palm trees myself, but I have used this method
to make better looking olive trees. It works well for distance shots.
Or another idea would be to model a palm leaf yourself and add it onto
the trees, rotating them in the same direction as the cape. I think you
would only need three or four just to give the impression of wind.
>
>>
>> I like the dust behind the car in the distance, that's working
>> well, so maybe a bit of wind-blown dust around the palms too?
>
> There is some dust blowing behind the car and palms to the left. Still,
> this is something I am not entirely happy about.
Ah, I see it. It's not too obvious though. Hmm, not really sure what
you could do to improve that, apart from maybe just intensify it around the
palm trunks?
Those Komodo's work well in this image, Thomas.
~Steve~
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> Thomas
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"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> schreef in bericht news:490186ef$1@news.povray.org...
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> I haven't tried it with palm trees myself, but I have used this
> method to make better looking olive trees. It works well for distance
> shots.
>
> Or another idea would be to model a palm leaf yourself and add it onto
> the trees, rotating them in the same direction as the cape. I think you
> would only need three or four just to give the impression of wind.
Indeed. Indeed... I see that you have gone that track before, Steve!
>> There is some dust blowing behind the car and palms to the left. Still,
>> this is something I am not entirely happy about.
>
> Ah, I see it. It's not too obvious though. Hmm, not really sure what
> you could do to improve that, apart from maybe just intensify it around
> the palm trunks?
Yes that would certainly be possible. The problem though is that by
intensifying the dust media, the container becomes too apparent. I have been
using code from Loki to achieve the media, maybe I should work on that a bit
more. But as I said, this scene is on hold for the time being as other
tantalizing things are profiling themselves above the POV horizon, like the
new TC-RTC Challenge :-) or should I say challenges?
> Those Komodo's work well in this image, Thomas.
Yes, they do indeed. My first, really classic idea was to give the figure an
eagle or other hunting bird. However, as I did not have one, I thought about
the photograph I had seen somewhere of a man with a hyena on a leash, and
that pointed to the Komodo dragon immediately.
Thomas
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"Bill Pragnell" <bil### [at] hotmailcom> schreef in bericht
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> "Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlDOTnet> wrote:
>> This is the final version (for the time being) of a scene developed and
>> discussed on the French POV-Ray n.g. The title refers to Coleridge's poem
>> Kubla Khan: "In Xanadu did Kubla Khan / A stately pleasure-dome decree."
>
> Stately indeed.
Thank you, Bill!
>
> I love the dome, very nice, very credible in size. It does bother me that
> the
> man in the foreground obscures it though! Trees and mountains look
> amazing, and
> the cars really fit in, they make it feel like 1920s Egypt or something
> (not
> that I was ever there ;-)
Well, I asked him to move to the side when I set up my plate camera, but
would you believe it? He simply refused! And then that other beasty came up
to me and I had to hurry to take the snapshot...
Yes, now that you mention it, it reminds of that place and period indeed...
>
> If this is an ongoing work, I look forward to the next instalment!
That will take some time I am afraid. I want to put my attention on a couple
of other projects first now.
>
> (How long did this take to render, by the way?)
I did not note it down seriously, but while doing also other things, the
parsing and render took about 12 hours in total and in three MegaPov
sessions, on an XP Pentium D 2x3GHz
Thomas
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On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:54:17 +0200, "Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlDOTnet>
wrote:
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>Yes, they do indeed. My first, really classic idea was to give the figure an
>eagle or other hunting bird. However, as I did not have one, I thought about
>the photograph I had seen somewhere of a man with a hyena on a leash, and
>that pointed to the Komodo dragon immediately.
I think that I posted (on OT) that earlier in the year I saw a young woman
taking her pet Iguana for a walk in London. It was on a lead but had a harness
round its fore legs not its neck. On a more practical note when I was working at
Taronga zoo I watched the keepers move their dragon (called Tuka) out of his pen
so that they could clean the pen. It did not look an easy job but Tuka did not
seem too aggressive only annoyed that he was being moved. I don't think that
they would even notice a lead.
Your image is great but I can't see the damsel with a dulcimer ;)
As Janet said: "Clothify the palm trees ?!?!! LOL"
Nice one Steve :)
--
Regards
Stephen
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Stephen wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:54:17 +0200, "Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlDOTnet>
> wrote:
>
Late jumping in here, but Giles Tran's "Extree" has a wind function.
Rich
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"Stephen" <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> schreef in bericht
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> I think that I posted (on OT) that earlier in the year I saw a young woman
> taking her pet Iguana for a walk in London. It was on a lead but had a
> harness
> round its fore legs not its neck. On a more practical note when I was
> working at
> Taronga zoo I watched the keepers move their dragon (called Tuka) out of
> his pen
> so that they could clean the pen. It did not look an easy job but Tuka did
> not
> seem too aggressive only annoyed that he was being moved. I don't think
> that
> they would even notice a lead.
I first wanted to make a harness but laziness persuaded me to do a collar
:-)
I suppose animals in the wild or in captivity develop different behaviours.
They remain dangerous however, and a dragon's bite is definitely not a
healthy thing.
>
> Your image is great but I can't see the damsel with a dulcimer ;)
> As Janet said: "Clothify the palm trees ?!?!! LOL"
> Nice one Steve :)
Well, it was worth the trial anyway ;-) It would need a really strong and
fast computer. Come back in 2015.
Thomas
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"Rich" <ri.### [at] attnet> schreef in bericht
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> Late jumping in here, but Giles Tran's "Extree" has a wind function.
>
MakeTree? yes, I know, but no palm trees there and no meshes...
Thomas
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On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 09:07:06 +0200, "Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlDOTnet>
wrote:
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>I first wanted to make a harness but laziness persuaded me to do a collar
>:-)
I know that feeling ;)
>I suppose animals in the wild or in captivity develop different behaviours.
>They remain dangerous however, and a dragon's bite is definitely not a
>healthy thing.
>
Indeed not! Those bacteria are an additional weapon.
>> Your image is great but I can't see the damsel with a dulcimer ;)
>> As Janet said: "Clothify the palm trees ?!?!! LOL"
>> Nice one Steve :)
>
>Well, it was worth the trial anyway ;-) It would need a really strong and
>fast computer. Come back in 2015.
I think so. I imagine that you would need to construct a mesh with several parts
so that you could give them different densities for their springiness. Computing
time - through the roof :)
Do you think that we will have Quantum PovRay by 2015?
--
Regards
Stephen
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"Stephen" <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> schreef in bericht
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> I think so. I imagine that you would need to construct a mesh with several
> parts
> so that you could give them different densities for their springiness.
> Computing
> time - through the roof :)
Ideally, for the palm tree, you would need well-defined meshes for the frond
ribs and the leaves attached to them, to give them different elastic
properties. In itself that is not too difficult to achieve, even by hand,
but computing time indeed......
> Do you think that we will have Quantum PovRay by 2015?
Between 2015 and 2020, definitely! I just consulted my private
clairvoyante.... :-)
Thomas
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