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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Skyrim
Date: 28 Jan 2016 10:38:31
Message: <56aa35f7@news.povray.org>
On 1/27/2016 11:48 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 19:54:21 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>

>>>
>>>
>> Fit like, ma loon?
>> :)
>
> No comprendo. :)
>

How are you my young man.
Aberdeen dialect.



>>>
>>>
>> The part where you missed out what your cat is called. :P
>
> Ah - the two in question are Fynn (most people don't have a problem with
> that) and Eiyrt (which proves a lot more challenging for most - one vet
> tech was so pleased she had it right that we didn't have the heart to
> tell her she was actually saying it wrong.)
>

I would not have a clue.


>
> Which brings me back to Welsh, naturally.  Lots of phlegm, from what I
> hear - including from a friend who's from Wales. :)
>

That is true at least in South Wales.


>
> Yeah. It's the "Catalonians" who are not as good natured

I did not find that but then I make sure people know that I am a 
Northern Brit. That works wonders. :D


> as he'd served an LDS mission in Barcelona,

I always read that as LSD. Have a good trip Man. ;)



>
> I thought it'd be nice to get him a book that showed some of Barcelona -
> but he didn't speak or read Spanish (or Catalan) at all, so I thought a
> nice book of photos would be good. :)
>

I got a book on Gaudi's architecture. The pictures could have come from 
a LDS mission. ;)

-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Skyrim
Date: 28 Jan 2016 13:06:56
Message: <56aa58c0$1@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 15:38:24 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 1/27/2016 11:48 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 19:54:21 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>
> 
>>>>
>>> Fit like, ma loon?
>>> :)
>>
>> No comprendo. :)
>>
> How are you my young man.
> Aberdeen dialect.

That would explain it. :)

Never encountered that one before, I don't think.

>>>>
>>> The part where you missed out what your cat is called. :P
>>
>> Ah - the two in question are Fynn (most people don't have a problem
>> with that) and Eiyrt (which proves a lot more challenging for most -
>> one vet tech was so pleased she had it right that we didn't have the
>> heart to tell her she was actually saying it wrong.)
>>
>>
> I would not have a clue.

"Finn" for the first. :)

"Air't" for the second (that's a close approximation).

The names translate to "Light" and "Shadow".  One is a white flame point, 
the other a grey lilac point, and I didn't want to use the boring 
"everyone's done this already" English names. :)

The other one is named Mushi - he's a short-haired tuxedo, but he got 
that name because, as our son Ken said, "he's got mushy brains".  His 
official name is "Indiana", after Indiana Jones (we found him at about 2 
weeks - if not less - abandoned by his mother in our back yard, and he 
yelled until Ken found him, and then climbed into Ken's hands).

So a bit of an adventurer.  But the name never stuck, other than on 
official paperwork.

>> Yeah. It's the "Catalonians" who are not as good natured
> 
> I did not find that but then I make sure people know that I am a
> Northern Brit. That works wonders. :D

Lots of places have a North, I hear. :)

>> as he'd served an LDS mission in Barcelona,
> 
> I always read that as LSD. Have a good trip Man. ;)

LOL

>> I thought it'd be nice to get him a book that showed some of Barcelona
>> -
>> but he didn't speak or read Spanish (or Catalan) at all, so I thought a
>> nice book of photos would be good. :)
>>
>>
> I got a book on Gaudi's architecture. The pictures could have come from
> a LDS mission. ;)

LOL, true enough.  I think Sagrada Familia figured heavily into the book 
I ended up finding for him.

I wonder where the book ended up when he died a couple years ago.

Jim

-- 
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and 
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Skyrim
Date: 28 Jan 2016 13:07:50
Message: <56aa58f6$1@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 01:24:31 +0100, clipka wrote:

> Am 28.01.2016 um 00:48 schrieb Jim Henderson:
> 
>>> The part where you missed out what your cat is called. :P
>> 
>> Ah - the two in question are Fynn (most people don't have a problem
>> with that) and Eiyrt (which proves a lot more challenging for most -
>> one vet tech was so pleased she had it right that we didn't have the
>> heart to tell her she was actually saying it wrong.)
> 
> I'd try "Finn" and "Art", hoping that -- as seems to be so often the
> case with Gaelic names -- it's not so much the pronunciation but just
> the orthography that's weird. Such as "Sean" for what is essentially
> "John".

Pretty close on the second, and spot on on the first.  Eiyrt is more like 
"Air't" - as a single syllable (as you note).

Jim



-- 
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and 
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Skyrim
Date: 28 Jan 2016 14:08:19
Message: <56aa6723@news.povray.org>
Am 28.01.2016 um 19:06 schrieb Jim Henderson:

> The other one is named Mushi - he's a short-haired tuxedo, but he got 
> that name because, as our son Ken said, "he's got mushy brains".  His 
> official name is "Indiana", after Indiana Jones (we found him at about 2 
> weeks - if not less - abandoned by his mother in our back yard, and he 
> yelled until Ken found him, and then climbed into Ken's hands).

You do know that in German, "Muschi" is equivalent to the English
"Pussy" (in every respect)? (Though in German the "u" is pronounced more
like a short "oo").

Anyway, that reminds me of one of the cats we had, that also got a name
(actually quite a bunch of names) for being a bit weird. We assume she
was epileptic. Also a tux, btw.


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Skyrim
Date: 28 Jan 2016 18:59:53
Message: <56aaab79$1@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 20:08:07 +0100, clipka wrote:

> Am 28.01.2016 um 19:06 schrieb Jim Henderson:
> 
>> The other one is named Mushi - he's a short-haired tuxedo, but he got
>> that name because, as our son Ken said, "he's got mushy brains".  His
>> official name is "Indiana", after Indiana Jones (we found him at about
>> 2 weeks - if not less - abandoned by his mother in our back yard, and
>> he yelled until Ken found him, and then climbed into Ken's hands).
> 
> You do know that in German, "Muschi" is equivalent to the English
> "Pussy" (in every respect)? (Though in German the "u" is pronounced more
> like a short "oo").

I didn't, but that makes for a funny name for "cat".

I think originally, Ken spelled it "mooshie", but it shifted to "Mushi" 
as a sort of pseudo-Japanesification of the name (we have family from 
Japan).  Actually, "Mushi" in Japanese (as Romanji) translates to 
"Neglect" (according to Google Translate), which sadly is what his mother 
did to him, so the name also is apt in that translation.

> Anyway, that reminds me of one of the cats we had, that also got a name
> (actually quite a bunch of names) for being a bit weird. We assume she
> was epileptic. Also a tux, btw.

It turns out that ours has a serious heart condition, with the start of 
congestive heart failure.  He's also missing a disc in his spine, which 
explains a host of other medical problems he's had over the years.  
Still, he's a stubborn cat ("little cat" is hardly appropriate for a cat 
that's 15 lbs), and he's made it nearly 13 years so far.

Jim

-- 
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and 
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Skyrim
Date: 29 Jan 2016 03:02:31
Message: <56ab1c97$1@news.povray.org>
On 28-1-2016 15:19, clipka wrote:
> Am 28.01.2016 um 09:22 schrieb Thomas de Groot:
>> On 28-1-2016 1:24, clipka wrote:
>>> Am 28.01.2016 um 00:48 schrieb Jim Henderson:
>>>
>>>>> The part where you missed out what your cat is called. :P
>>>>
>>>> Ah - the two in question are Fynn (most people don't have a problem with
>>>> that) and Eiyrt (which proves a lot more challenging for most - one vet
>>>> tech was so pleased she had it right that we didn't have the heart to
>>>> tell her she was actually saying it wrong.)
>>>
>>> I'd try "Finn" and "Art", hoping that -- as seems to be so often the
>>> case with Gaelic names -- it's not so much the pronunciation but just
>>> the orthography that's weird. Such as "Sean" for what is essentially
>>> "John".
>>
>> I have long time wondered: why the weird orthography?
>
> One reason is that the Gaelic language distinguishes various pairs of
> consonant phonemes that in other Western European languages are mostly
> allophones (i.e. different variations of one and the same phoneme, such
> as the "p" in "pop" vs. "pip"), and for which consequently the latin
> script provides only one symbol each.
>
> When the Gaelic people adopted the Latin script for writing, instead of
> introducing diacritical marks to distinguish those consonant variants,
> they instead co-opted the vowel symbols for this use.
>
> Thus, the "e" in "Sean", even though being a latin vowel symbol,
> doesn't represent a vowel at all, and rather identifies the "s" as being
> the variant that in Gaelic would normally be associated with an "e"
> vowel (which happens to be similar to the English "sh") rather than that
> normally associated with the "a" vowel actually spoken (which would be a
> regular "s" sound).
>
> ("s" is actually one of the very few cases where the Gaelic pairs of
> phonemes aren't allophones in English.)
>

Interesting. Thanks!

I go explore from here :-)

-- 
Thomas


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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: Skyrim
Date: 30 Jan 2016 04:41:18
Message: <56ac853e@news.povray.org>
On 24/01/2016 11:16 AM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> In Fallout, the problem is that you'll never find anything valuable to
> sell. In Skyrim, the problem is that you'll never find anybody who can
> afford to buy your stuff off you. Like, I found a magical staff that the
> game reckons is worth about 3,000 gold coins. I have yet to meet a
> merchant of any kind who has more than 500 gold coins in total. So this
> extremely valuable item appears to be totally illiquid.

The solution, it seems, is to buy something first. Then you can sell the 
more valuable stuff. Which makes it seem like they're banking with me, 
not the other way around... (It also provably cannot result in you 
ending up with more coin than you started with.)

> Even just figuring out who to sell which items to is entirely
> nontrivial. In Fallout, there is (as far as I can tell) only one trading
> post in the entire world, and they buy and sell anything. In Whiterun
> alone, there's a general goods place, an alchemy place and a hunting
> supplies place. (There's also meant to be a blacksmith; I really need to
> find that guy...)

Woo! Found the blacksmith shop. Now I can sell all the weird weapons I 
keep finding for a reasonable price...

Since I only buy armour that's better than what I currently have, I now 
have a really weird mixture of armour from multiple different races. My 
character looks strange. ;-)


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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: Skyrim
Date: 30 Jan 2016 04:43:51
Message: <56ac85d7$1@news.povray.org>
On 24/01/2016 10:35 PM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> However, I'm still getting my arse handed to me in combat, so I think
> it's time to actually go join the mage college...

Joining the mage college didn't really help with anything. It seems all 
you really need to do is talk to the Jarl's mage and buy some spellbooks.

Oh, did I mention? He's called "Farengar Secret-Fire". That's all I have 
to say about that.


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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: Skyrim
Date: 7 Feb 2016 06:10:01
Message: <56b72609$1@news.povray.org>
On 30/01/2016 09:41 AM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> Woo! Found the blacksmith shop. Now I can sell all the weird weapons I
> keep finding for a reasonable price...

Damn. Vampires attacked me, and killed everybody who works at the 
blacksmith shop. So now the shop is permanently closed. *sigh*

In other news, the girl who works there left me 100 gold in her will. 
For some unknown reason. (And the Jarl took 10 in tax.)

> Since I only buy armour that's better than what I currently have, I now
> have a really weird mixture of armour from multiple different races. My
> character looks strange. ;-)

I've managed to standardise on steel plate for now. With the closure of 
the shop, I guess I won't be upgrading this... ever.


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Skyrim
Date: 7 Feb 2016 15:48:59
Message: <56b7adbb$1@news.povray.org>
Am 07.02.2016 um 12:10 schrieb Orchid Win7 v1:
> On 30/01/2016 09:41 AM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>> Woo! Found the blacksmith shop. Now I can sell all the weird weapons I
>> keep finding for a reasonable price...
> 
> Damn. Vampires attacked me, and killed everybody who works at the
> blacksmith shop. So now the shop is permanently closed. *sigh*

You should play NetHack. The shopkeepers there are a much more resilient
bunch ;)

> In other news, the girl who works there left me 100 gold in her will.
> For some unknown reason. (And the Jarl took 10 in tax.)

Worked there.
Or is the shop bound to re-open at night time?


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