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On 7/24/2014 9:23 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 05:36:00 -0400, James Holsenback wrote:
>
>>> Love and tolerance indeed...
>>>
>>>
>> and obviously telling lies isn't that big of a deal either ...
>
> Well, that depends. If you're a Republican and do all the "Jesus is
> Lord" stuff, then you can practically get away with murder and not have
> to leave office.
>
> If you're a Democrat and you send a sext to someone, you are forced to
> resign in disgrace.
>
> While both sides have examples that contradict, overwhelmingly, if you're
> a Republican elected official and you get mired in a sex scandal or
> something, you aren't forced to leave office.
>
> Jim
>
Gosh, of course not. As long as your diddling Jesus in the restrooms,
along with whom ever else you had a scandal with, its all forgiven.
Didn't you know this? lol
--
Commander Vimes: "You take a bunch of people who don't seem any
different from you and me, but when you add them all together you get
this sort of huge raving maniac with national borders and an anthem."
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On 7/24/2014 9:19 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 04:48:34 -0400, Warp wrote:
>
>> I hear there are still some places in the US where there are basically
>> closet atheists who pretend to be Christians because else they would be
>> shunned and discriminated against.
>
> Actually, a more accurate way to say that at the moment would be that
> there are some places where it's OK to be an out Atheist.
>
> It's gotten better in the past few years, but, particularly in small
> towns in the south, it can be extremely difficult to be an out Atheist.
>
Yeah, most of those places being the wrong religion, and questioning why
some "public" event is opened with a prayer to the god of right wing
evangelicalism, instead of just about anything else, will get you run
out of town. These places only play lip service to the usual lie that
Jews, Christians, and for some reason, Buddhists are all welcome (the
three faiths most often quoted by idiots claiming they are "inclusive"),
but everyone else will burn in hell. If you actually make a complaint
while being the wrong one of these, or almost worse, one of those damn
"liberal" Christians and you might as well be black, 50+ years ago, with
a sheet factory down the street from you.
--
Commander Vimes: "You take a bunch of people who don't seem any
different from you and me, but when you add them all together you get
this sort of huge raving maniac with national borders and an anthem."
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On 7/25/2014 12:10 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> Well, there are a lot of things that didn't become an issue for the
> general public, partly because Romney wouldn't really talk about what he
> believes or what his church practices. I may not have liked him as a
> candidate or as a person, but I can respect him for saying "that's not
> what this election is about" and refusing to talk about his faith. If he
> had been elected, I actually think he would have not had his faith be
> front and center, because he didn't want it in the spotlight. He
> considered it to be a very personal thing, and not relevant to his policy
> choices.
>
On that note - what the hell where his policies exactly, I never noted
him actually pinning any down, really, unless, "I picked a Tea Party nut
to replace me, should my brain melt down while trying to figure out what
I actually believe this week, and the VP has to take over."? lol
--
Commander Vimes: "You take a bunch of people who don't seem any
different from you and me, but when you add them all together you get
this sort of huge raving maniac with national borders and an anthem."
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 06:51:35 -0700, Patrick Elliott wrote:
> On 7/24/2014 9:23 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 05:36:00 -0400, James Holsenback wrote:
>>
>>>> Love and tolerance indeed...
>>>>
>>>>
>>> and obviously telling lies isn't that big of a deal either ...
>>
>> Well, that depends. If you're a Republican and do all the "Jesus is
>> Lord" stuff, then you can practically get away with murder and not have
>> to leave office.
>>
>> If you're a Democrat and you send a sext to someone, you are forced to
>> resign in disgrace.
>>
>> While both sides have examples that contradict, overwhelmingly, if
>> you're a Republican elected official and you get mired in a sex scandal
>> or something, you aren't forced to leave office.
>>
>> Jim
>>
> Gosh, of course not. As long as your diddling Jesus in the restrooms,
> along with whom ever else you had a scandal with, its all forgiven.
> Didn't you know this? lol
*snortlaugh*
--
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 07:00:22 -0700, Patrick Elliott wrote:
> On 7/25/2014 12:10 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> Well, there are a lot of things that didn't become an issue for the
>> general public, partly because Romney wouldn't really talk about what
>> he believes or what his church practices. I may not have liked him as
>> a candidate or as a person, but I can respect him for saying "that's
>> not what this election is about" and refusing to talk about his faith.
>> If he had been elected, I actually think he would have not had his
>> faith be front and center, because he didn't want it in the spotlight.
>> He considered it to be a very personal thing, and not relevant to his
>> policy choices.
>>
> On that note - what the hell where his policies exactly, I never noted
> him actually pinning any down, really, unless, "I picked a Tea Party nut
> to replace me, should my brain melt down while trying to figure out what
> I actually believe this week, and the VP has to take over."? lol
Yeah, that was also a big problem with him - his stated policies and past
policy decisions didn't line up very well, and he was all over the board
on what he was for. Most of his campaigning was based on "I'm against
what Obama's doing".
Pretty glad the electorate didn't fall for *that*, even though I'm not
very happy with Obama's stand on intellectual property and privacy
issues. Right now, neither party is making me very happy.
Jim
--
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 06:57:07 -0700, Patrick Elliott wrote:
> On 7/24/2014 9:19 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 04:48:34 -0400, Warp wrote:
>>
>>> I hear there are still some places in the US where there are basically
>>> closet atheists who pretend to be Christians because else they would
>>> be shunned and discriminated against.
>>
>> Actually, a more accurate way to say that at the moment would be that
>> there are some places where it's OK to be an out Atheist.
>>
>> It's gotten better in the past few years, but, particularly in small
>> towns in the south, it can be extremely difficult to be an out Atheist.
>>
> Yeah, most of those places being the wrong religion, and questioning why
> some "public" event is opened with a prayer to the god of right wing
> evangelicalism, instead of just about anything else, will get you run
> out of town. These places only play lip service to the usual lie that
> Jews, Christians, and for some reason, Buddhists are all welcome (the
> three faiths most often quoted by idiots claiming they are "inclusive"),
> but everyone else will burn in hell. If you actually make a complaint
> while being the wrong one of these, or almost worse, one of those damn
> "liberal" Christians and you might as well be black, 50+ years ago, with
> a sheet factory down the street from you.
I find it particularly disturbing that SCOTUS thinks that it's OK to have
religious invocations at government functions - because *that* makes
everyone feel like the city/state/locality will treat them equally if
they're not Christian. Yup, uh-huh.
And unicorns exist. Really.
Jim
--
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw
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On 24/07/2014 11:09, James Holsenback wrote:
>
> LOL ... maybe that's where I'm living! My next door neighbor has a large
> "God Delivers" sign in his front yard.
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Regards
Stephen
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On 23/07/2014 12:37, James Holsenback wrote:
> Sad state of affairs ... don't you think?
I am sorry to hear about your troubles, brother.
Maybe if we took some time together to reflect on this and pray to the
Lord it would smooth your troubled life. If you were willing to accept
the LORD Leviathan into your life... :-)
Seriously, if you can't move away and don't want to join the throng of
"I'll say anything for a bit of peace" brigade. Then learn the gentle
art of prevaricating.
A few years ago when I was working in Nigeria. (A country that builds
more churches than hospitals.) A group of us from work were on a tour of
Port Harcourt one Sunday. When the guide came on the bus she looked
around and fixed her eyes on me and said.
"I hope you have all been to church today."
I replied, slapping my chest.
"This is my Church. I carry GOD in my heart."
Which flummoxed her and she did not mention religion gain.
If she had only known what I really thought. I would have ended up with
a Soweto necklace.
As the song says:
FTA. FTA. The long and the short and the tall.
;-)
--
Regards
Stephen
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On 25/07/14 21:53, Stephen wrote:
> A few years ago when I was working in Nigeria. (A country that builds
> more churches than hospitals.) A group of us from work were on a tour of
> Port Harcourt one Sunday. When the guide came on the bus she looked
> around and fixed her eyes on me and said.
> "I hope you have all been to church today."
> I replied, slapping my chest.
> "This is my Church. I carry GOD in my heart."
> Which flummoxed her and she did not mention religion gain
...now why does that not surprise me?
John (still grinning at the mental image)
--
Protect the Earth
It was not given to you by your parents
You hold it in trust for your children
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On 25/07/2014 22:21, Doctor John wrote:
>> Which flummoxed her and she did not mention religion gain
> ...now why does that not surprise me?
>
> John (still grinning at the mental image)
It came out when I was trying to suppress the impulse to punch her in
the throat. ;-)
(Not true. I'm just a smart arse and my tongue will get me hung. Or so
my Grandmother said.)
Round about that time. The project secretary sent me an email with a
religious strip cartoon. Which said that I was going to HELL if I did
not mend my ways.
But strangely enough when I let it be known that I was Obeah (Juju).
Life got simpler and I became Uncle Stephen. o_O
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Regards
Stephen
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