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I am thinking of changing newsgroups readers. I currently use Netscape's
news reader but it has a number of faults which really annoy me. I am
looking for a news reader which allows you to easily decode
multi-message posts, files and large pictures usually. It would also be
good if I could have the same newsgroup server listed twice, Netscape
does not allow this, this is useful if you want to set aside one of them
to quickly brows through newsgroups before deciding weather to add them
to your main newsgroup list. Outlook Express has most of these features
and whenever I download files it is the one I use, but I would prefer
not to have to switch between 2 readers. Besides OE is MS.
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I use OE5 for the newsgroups and switch to MS Outlook 2000 for e-mail: I
find it very smooth to work with.
If only I could learn not to double-click on the leftmost icon in OE5 :-(
--
Regards,
Sander
Thomas Lake <tla### [at] home com> schreef in berichtnieuws
389D424B.313EC217@home.com...
> I am thinking of changing newsgroups readers. I currently use Netscape's
> news reader but it has a number of faults which really annoy me. I am
> looking for a news reader which allows you to easily decode
> multi-message posts, files and large pictures usually. It would also be
> good if I could have the same newsgroup server listed twice, Netscape
> does not allow this, this is useful if you want to set aside one of them
> to quickly brows through newsgroups before deciding weather to add them
> to your main newsgroup list. Outlook Express has most of these features
> and whenever I download files it is the one I use, but I would prefer
> not to have to switch between 2 readers. Besides OE is MS.
> --
> Come visit my web site:-) : http://www.geocities.com/~thomaslake/
>
>
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Yeah but you are still using 2 programs. I am looking for 1 program which will
handle all my newsgroup needs, and preferably not an MS program. I have been a
long time Netscape devote and always will be but I wish its newsgroup reader
was a bit more robust. Oh well maybe in ver 5.0, if AOL doesn't end up
screwing Netscape up.
Sander wrote:
> I use OE5 for the newsgroups and switch to MS Outlook 2000 for e-mail: I
> find it very smooth to work with.
> If only I could learn not to double-click on the leftmost icon in OE5 :-(
> --
> Regards,
> Sander
>
> Thomas Lake <tla### [at] homecom> schreef in berichtnieuws
> 389D424B.313EC217@home.com...
> > I am thinking of changing newsgroups readers. I currently use Netscape's
> > news reader but it has a number of faults which really annoy me. I am
> > looking for a news reader which allows you to easily decode
> > multi-message posts, files and large pictures usually. It would also be
> > good if I could have the same newsgroup server listed twice, Netscape
> > does not allow this, this is useful if you want to set aside one of them
> > to quickly brows through newsgroups before deciding weather to add them
> > to your main newsgroup list. Outlook Express has most of these features
> > and whenever I download files it is the one I use, but I would prefer
> > not to have to switch between 2 readers. Besides OE is MS.
> > --
> > Come visit my web site:-) : http://www.geocities.com/~thomaslake/
> >
> >
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On Sun, 06 Feb 2000 01:43:39 -0800, Thomas Lake <tla### [at] homecom>
wrote:
>I am thinking of changing newsgroups readers. I currently use Netscape's
>news reader but it has a number of faults which really annoy me. I am
>looking for a news reader which allows you to easily decode
>multi-message posts, files and large pictures usually. It would also be
>good if I could have the same newsgroup server listed twice, Netscape
>does not allow this, this is useful if you want to set aside one of them
>to quickly brows through newsgroups before deciding weather to add them
>to your main newsgroup list. Outlook Express has most of these features
>and whenever I download files it is the one I use, but I would prefer
>not to have to switch between 2 readers. Besides OE is MS.
Whenever a question of this type pops up I stand up and shout "Agent".
It's not free but my experience shows that in terms of features and
RFC compliance it's the best graphical newsreader for the PC, unless
something has drastically changed in the last year or so (like NS and
OE become RFC compliant, heh!).
Just my two cents anyway.
Peter Popov
pet### [at] usanet
ICQ: 15002700
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Thomas Lake wrote:
If I read what you want, good luck. But Free Agent is about the best
there is and small enough to have multiple copies of it without a noticable
disk penalty. If you want to run multiple copies at once that can be done
also but it needs a bit of explaining. Let me know if you want the
explanation.
--
The question is not, "Who will let me do it?"
The question is, "Who will stop me?"
Offering an apology is easier than getting permission.
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No I didn't mean I wanted to run multiple copies of it. What I meant was that I
would like to be able to add the same newsgroup server to the program twice. I
like to have 2 copies of the server one I keep all of my permanent newsgroup
subscriptions on. I use the other one when I want to just quickly look at a
newsgroup. I find it makes it easier to just brows through a newsgroup and see
weather I want to make it a permanent subscription. Strange I know.
Matt Giwer wrote:
> Thomas Lake wrote:
>
> If I read what you want, good luck. But Free Agent is about the best
> there is and small enough to have multiple copies of it without a noticable
> disk penalty. If you want to run multiple copies at once that can be done
> also but it needs a bit of explaining. Let me know if you want the
> explanation.
>
> --
> The question is not, "Who will let me do it?"
> The question is, "Who will stop me?"
> Offering an apology is easier than getting permission.
--
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Thomas Lake wrote:
> No I didn't mean I wanted to run multiple copies of it. What I meant was that I
> would like to be able to add the same newsgroup server to the program twice.
Were I writing such software, I have no idea how I would distinguish the two as
they are the same unless that were a specific option upon adding. And I do not see
why any rational programmer would want to do that.
A newserver has a unique internet ID. I would have to alias all IDs to have
multiple instances of any one. (Not really but not doing so would make it even
harder.)
I can go fuirther but bottom line is, I can't see why anyone would write a
reader doing what you want.
Which does not mean it is a bad idea. Just what benefits do you see from this?
> I
> like to have 2 copies of the server one I keep all of my permanent newsgroup
> subscriptions on. I use the other one when I want to just quickly look at a
> newsgroup. I find it makes it easier to just brows through a newsgroup and see
> weather I want to make it a permanent subscription. Strange I know.
AHHH!! (Maybe?)
You mean that Netscape does not have a "mark unread" function or an option not
to mark read at all while browsing and also while not marking read automatically to
mark specific messages as read while browsing.
Free Agent has all such functions.
Does that address your needs?
All those are in free agent vice agent for $US29 or some such. Free agent is
almost embarrassware it gives you nearly everything for nothing.
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Thomas Lake wrote:
>I am thinking of changing newsgroups readers.
>
Xnews: It's free, it's an online reader (with some offline capabilities,
or use it in combination with the Hamster news and mail server), a server
can be listed as often as you want, slrn style scoring etc. I use it and I
like it.
http://xnews.3dnews.net/
Ingo
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Forget it its nothing important. IE can do it however.
Matt Giwer wrote:
> Thomas Lake wrote:
>
> > No I didn't mean I wanted to run multiple copies of it. What I meant was that I
> > would like to be able to add the same newsgroup server to the program twice.
>
> Were I writing such software, I have no idea how I would distinguish the two as
> they are the same unless that were a specific option upon adding. And I do not see
> why any rational programmer would want to do that.
>
> A newserver has a unique internet ID. I would have to alias all IDs to have
> multiple instances of any one. (Not really but not doing so would make it even
> harder.)
>
> I can go fuirther but bottom line is, I can't see why anyone would write a
> reader doing what you want.
>
> Which does not mean it is a bad idea. Just what benefits do you see from this?
>
> > I
> > like to have 2 copies of the server one I keep all of my permanent newsgroup
> > subscriptions on. I use the other one when I want to just quickly look at a
> > newsgroup. I find it makes it easier to just brows through a newsgroup and see
> > weather I want to make it a permanent subscription. Strange I know.
>
> AHHH!! (Maybe?)
>
> You mean that Netscape does not have a "mark unread" function or an option not
> to mark read at all while browsing and also while not marking read automatically to
> mark specific messages as read while browsing.
>
> Free Agent has all such functions.
>
> Does that address your needs?
>
> All those are in free agent vice agent for $US29 or some such. Free agent is
> almost embarrassware it gives you nearly everything for nothing.
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On Mon, 07 Feb 2000 05:10:46 -0500, Matt Giwer <jul### [at] ijnet> wrote:
>> I
>> like to have 2 copies of the server one I keep all of my permanent newsgroup
>> subscriptions on. I use the other one when I want to just quickly look at a
>> newsgroup. I find it makes it easier to just brows through a newsgroup and see
>> weather I want to make it a permanent subscription. Strange I know.
> Free Agent has all such functions.
The way Agent and Free Agent is configured for multiple accounts is
simple. You create a separate directory for each account and set it as
a working directory for the shortcut that starts agent.exe . How you
configure each account is your own business so if you want you can
have 20 different copies of the same server running all at once (not
that you would want that :) ) and subscribe to whichever groups you
want to independently. The different copies couldn't care less about
each other. And if for some strange reason one of them crashes, this
doesn't take down the others with it (as NS does).
> All those are in free agent vice agent for $US29 or some such. Free agent is
>almost embarrassware it gives you nearly everything for nothing.
The biggest plus that I've found in Agent is that it does not lose its
data upon reinstallation. It has survived innumerous re-installs of
95, OSR 2.1, 98 and even NT once without a problem (as opposed to OE
and NS which write so much stuf to the registry it's impossible for
thir data to survive an OS reinstall).
I suggest you check out TUCOWS for the ones rated "five golden cows"
only. There are three or four of them, namely Free Agent, Agent, NS,
OE and I think Gravity (haven't checked lately). All of them have free
versions available for download so decide for yourself.
Peter Popov
pet### [at] usanet
ICQ: 15002700
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