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From: dlm
Subject: Re: Lostguy WIP #8
Date: 2 Oct 2007 08:32:41
Message: <47023a69$1@news.povray.org>
"Tim Nikias" <JUS### [at] gmxnetWARE> wrote in message 
news:46fce599@news.povray.org...
> So, after quite some time, another update on the image.
>
> I've worked some more on the clouds and colors of the sky, on the figure
> (there were lots of iterations on the figure I didn't post here) and a
> little on the blur.
>
> I'm not sure yet if I want to call it final, so I want to put it to rest
> for a few days and experiment, like exchanging the sky to something
> completely abstract and non-realistic, or switching some colors around
> (not a daytime-sky, but rather dawn or such, perhaps).
>
> Anyways, I figured some input might be nice, as always, I don't mind
> criticism or suggestions, I just always retain the right to decide if I
> want to follow them or not. ;-)
>
> Regards,
> Tim
>
> -- 
> aka "Tim Nikias"
> Homepage: <http://www.nolights.de>
>

Nice. Is that a bunny I see in the clouds there? And a boxing glove? And a 
...
The cloudscape is a canvas for the imagination.
DLM


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Lostguy WIP #8
Date: 2 Oct 2007 10:41:43
Message: <470258a7$1@news.povray.org>
"dlm" <me### [at] addressinvalid> schreef in bericht 
news:47023a69$1@news.povray.org...
>
> Nice. Is that a bunny I see in the clouds there? And a boxing glove? And a 
> ...
> The cloudscape is a canvas for the imagination.


Yes! And a doggy, and a tapir, and...

Thomas


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From: dlm
Subject: Re: Lostguy WIP #8
Date: 3 Oct 2007 13:14:09
Message: <4703cde1$1@news.povray.org>
>> Nice. Is that a bunny I see in the clouds there? And a boxing glove? And 
>> a
>> ...
>> The cloudscape is a canvas for the imagination.
>
>
> Yes! And a doggy, and a tapir, and...

8)


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From: Grassblade
Subject: Re: Lostguy WIP #8
Date: 9 Oct 2007 16:50:01
Message: <web.470be886770a47d944bccc1e0@news.povray.org>
The clouds are possibly too regular in their fluffiness (is that a word?),
but that's one mighty fine pic! Great job.


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From: Kenneth
Subject: Re: Lostguy WIP #8
Date: 12 Oct 2007 05:35:00
Message: <web.470f3f49770a47d9f017fa660@news.povray.org>
Tim Nikias <JUS### [at] gmxnetWARE> wrote:
> So, after quite some time, another update on the image.
>

This is a landscape that I would actually like to visit! It's a really
compelling image, very original and well-executed. It looks like a fantasy
painting come to life. The lighting and the blurred background give it a
"real but fantastic" quality. I wouldn't change a thing (...*except*
perhaps the featureless white figure...my only suggestion. He's a bit stiff
compared to all the rounded, sensual forms in the image.)

Ken W.


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From: Tim Nikias
Subject: Re: Lostguy WIP #8
Date: 12 Oct 2007 09:09:12
Message: <470f71f8$1@news.povray.org>
Samuel Benge wrote:
> It all looks really nice! The lighting is great, and the atmosphere 
> feels good. Overall, the hills never get higher or lower to give the 
> poor guy any reference to location.

Thanks, thats a good interpretation of the scenery. :-)

> "Am I close yet" would be the appropriate question to ask for a person 
> is this situation. For you, the answer to that question should be a 
> resounding "yes". Give yourself a pat on the back, because it's time for 
> you to move on to a new project. This one is finished :)

Yeah, considering calling it finished, too. I still want to make a last 
couple of experiments, but I guess this'll remain the final version. 
Maybe I'll go ahead and create a few variations (in lighting, for 
example, or background)...

Regards,
Tim

-- 
aka "Tim Nikias"
Homepage: <http://www.nolights.de>


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From: Tim Nikias
Subject: Re: Lostguy WIP #8
Date: 12 Oct 2007 09:14:18
Message: <470f732a$1@news.povray.org>
sooperFoX wrote:
> I must admit that I have not seen the earlier versions, but I like this one.
> Were you going for a semi-cartoon look? I think it works very well as a nice
> blend.

Yup, semi-cartoon, half-realistic, this mix-style has many names. ;-)

> One small nitpick (sorry!) - I think one of the signs should read
> "Heartbreak" rather than "Heartbroken", just to be consistent with all the
> others.

Hm, that's if the signs are just leading somewhere. Maybe they're also 
signs leading you when you are in a certain situation? (Just giving fuel 
to thought... ;-)

> Also I don't see "Debt" anywhere! Or is that it hiding behind "Stress"? ;-)

Ooooh, there are a couple ones hiding behind the others, which is a 
shame, really. Overall, 50 different things and only a couple dozen are 
really readable.

> If you plan on making additions to this scene at a later date I could
> suggest maybe a signpost and just the bottom tip of a sign (words not
> visible) in the extreme foreground - maybe way over on the right edge (so
> as not to obscure the man). I think it would complement the signs way off
> in the distance nicely, and add to the 'magnitude' of this man's
> helplessness.

> Well please don't take these as criticisms because they were not intended
> that way. I love this image, the atmosphere and the composition; plus the
> subject is something I think we can all relate to.

No, don't worry, constructive criticism is okay! Suggestions, different 
points of view, that's what I try to get when I post things here in the 
newsgroups where people can comment. It's still up to me if I want to 
implement a suggestion or not, I don't feel obliged to obey. ;-)

> Great work!

Thank you!

Regards,
Tim

-- 
aka "Tim Nikias"
Homepage: <http://www.nolights.de>


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From: Tim Nikias
Subject: Re: Lostguy WIP #8
Date: 12 Oct 2007 09:14:53
Message: <470f734d$1@news.povray.org>
dlm wrote:
>>> Nice. Is that a bunny I see in the clouds there? And a boxing glove? And 
>>> a
>>> ...
>>> The cloudscape is a canvas for the imagination.
>>
>> Yes! And a doggy, and a tapir, and...
> 
> 8)

Isn't that the effect clouds strive for? Imagination-Seeds? ;-)

Regards,
Tim

-- 
aka "Tim Nikias"
Homepage: <http://www.nolights.de>


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From: Tim Nikias
Subject: Re: Lostguy WIP #8
Date: 12 Oct 2007 09:16:56
Message: <470f73c8$1@news.povray.org>
Grassblade wrote:
> The clouds are possibly too regular in their fluffiness (is that a word?),
> but that's one mighty fine pic! 

It's a little difficult to create realistic clouds when you just rely on 
the procedural patterns, but actually, I did want them to look a little 
hand-made. The entire image is more a stylistic, miniature-like image of 
something, and I didn't feel like adding ultra-realistic clouds in to it.

> Great job.

Thanks!

Regards,
Tim

-- 
aka "Tim Nikias"
Homepage: <http://www.nolights.de>


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From: Tim Nikias
Subject: Re: Lostguy WIP #8
Date: 12 Oct 2007 09:22:30
Message: <470f7516$1@news.povray.org>
Kenneth wrote:
> This is a landscape that I would actually like to visit! It's a really
> compelling image, very original and well-executed. It looks like a fantasy
> painting come to life. The lighting and the blurred background give it a
> "real but fantastic" quality. I wouldn't change a thing (...*except*
> perhaps the featureless white figure...my only suggestion. He's a bit stiff
> compared to all the rounded, sensual forms in the image.)

Thanks for the comment and praise!

I'm rather new to modelling in 3D, and especially organic, recognizable 
forms are really difficult to get right without experience. I personally 
think I'm better at drawing cartoony-stuff and not so much the realistic 
stuff, which is probably why my self-made human-figures in my images 
look a little... Bland?
Additionally, I wanted some, hm, "simpleness" in the image, in a way 
that you see the ideas as visual representations, instead of real 
objects. The grass is rather regular, the path rather clean, the figure 
rather simple, etc.

Maybe someday, some ultra-realistic, subsurface-scattered, mind-boggling 
digital human being might be rendered from my end, but that's still some 
experience and practice away. :-)

Regards,
Tim

-- 
aka "Tim Nikias"
Homepage: <http://www.nolights.de>


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