ryan constantine schrieb:
> 
> > got some problems concerning the r2d2. most of the objects doesn't seem
> > to have (appropriate) textures. was that planned?
> 
> what do you mean?  it should render the same as the sample image.  what
> is yours coming out like?

I can't render it at all as about a third of the objects doesn't have a
texture?

Am i the only one having this problem?

Arne Kleinophorst

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that's very strange.  first of all, do you have the necessary plugins? 
it needs the rounded cube plugin, and the spline plugin, and possibly
another one.  it's best if you have them all anyway, so if you haven't
already, download them all today.  the only objects that shouldn't be
textured are those whose parents are textured already (because you only
need to texture top level items).  do you have the image maps in the
right folder and does moray know where they are?  you can check this by
going to moray's settings and then to the paths tab.  there is a drop
down list that has all path types (models, textures, image maps etc.) so
make sure it shows all of the r2 file locations.  you can also click on
tools->check scene before rendering.  this checks to make sure it can
find all files and that all items are textured.

Arne Kleinophorst wrote:
> 
> ryan constantine schrieb:
> >
> > > got some problems concerning the r2d2. most of the objects doesn't seem
> > > to have (appropriate) textures. was that planned?
> >
> > what do you mean?  it should render the same as the sample image.  what
> > is yours coming out like?
> 
> I can't render it at all as about a third of the objects doesn't have a
> texture?
> 
> Am i the only one having this problem?
> 
> Arne Kleinophorst

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Hi Arne Kleinophorst, you recently wrote in moray.win:

> I can't render it at all as about a third of the objects doesn't have a
> texture?
Who gives an error? Moray or POV-Ray? If POV-Ray gives an error, you
should do a View|Dependancies from Moray and make sure that Moray does
not show you any error messages.

- Lutz
  email : lut### [at] stmuccom
  Web   : http://www.stmuc.com/moray

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Lutz Kretzschmar schrieb:
> 
> Hi Arne Kleinophorst, you recently wrote in moray.win:
> 
> > I can't render it at all as about a third of the objects doesn't have a
> > texture?
> Who gives an error? Moray or POV-Ray? If POV-Ray gives an error, you
> should do a View|Dependancies from Moray and make sure that Moray does
> not show you any error messages.
> 
> - Lutz
>   email : lut### [at] stmuccom
>   Web   : http://www.stmuc.com/moray

Well, wouldn't Moray give an Error if a Plugin would be missing? Since i
guess I've got all the plugins, i don't think, that's the Problem. But
Moray keeps telling me that a lot of objects don't have textures even
though everything should be in it's place and orderly cofigured. I'm
using Moray for about 6 years now.

Arne Kleinophorst

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Hi Arne Kleinophorst, you recently wrote in moray.win:

> Well, wouldn't Moray give an Error if a Plugin would be missing? 
Yes, it should. I didn't think this had anything to do with plugins.

> Since i guess I've got all the plugins, i don't think, that's the Problem. 
I don't think the plugins are the problem. I thought you are getting
an error message when rendering? This is what you said:

> I can't render it at all as about a third of the objects doesn't have a
> texture?
And since it wasn't clear what error you were getting (i.e. was Moray
complaining or was POV-Ray not rendering) I asked what error you were
getting. If Moray doesn't complain, but POV-Ray doesn't render, then
maybe some imagemaps cannot be found by POV-Ray. As you probably know,
this can be check with View|Dependancies, which is why I suggested it.

> But Moray keeps telling me that a lot of objects don't have textures even
> though everything should be in it's place and orderly cofigured. 
Hmmmm. So Moray is saying this..... I'll have to check....

[Later]
Yup, you're right. If you use Alt-V or Tools|Check Scene you will get
an error message about Cube535 not having a texture. Nothing in that
hierarchy has a texture.

Ryan, did I mess up and post the wrong R2D2, or did you send me an
older version?

- Lutz
  email : lut### [at] stmuccom
  Web   : http://www.stmuc.com/moray

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Lutz Kretzschmar schrieb:

> Hi Arne Kleinophorst, you recently wrote in moray.win:
>
> > Well, wouldn't Moray give an Error if a Plugin would be missing?
> Yes, it should. I didn't think this had anything to do with plugins.

No, you didn't. But Ryan did and i was too lazy to send 2 Mails :) I was pretty
sure, that i would not concern the plugins since I try to keep up to date with
the plugins.

<snip>

> And since it wasn't clear what error you were getting (i.e. was Moray
> complaining or was POV-Ray not rendering) I asked what error you were
> getting. If Moray doesn't complain, but POV-Ray doesn't render, then
> maybe some imagemaps cannot be found by POV-Ray. As you probably know,
> this can be check with View|Dependancies, which is why I suggested it.

Ok, i was a bit confusing concerning the result. But in my first statement i
wrote:
most of the objects doesn't seem to have (appropriate) textures.
which in my opinion is concerning Moray, and on the other hand this would be the
wrong newsgroup to post it :)

>
> [Later]
> Yup, you're right. If you use Alt-V or Tools|Check Scene you will get
> an error message about Cube535 not having a texture. Nothing in that
> hierarchy has a texture.
>
> Ryan, did I mess up and post the wrong R2D2, or did you send me an
> older version?

NOW i feel much better. :) I really started to worry about some strange kind of
stupidity. thanks

Arne Kleinophorst

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i just got back from washington d.c. last night, so sorry i couldn't
respond sooner.  i have the zip of the r2d2 i sent you, so i will switch
back to v3.2 of moray and make sure it works, after which i will upload
it again to the moray server.  i didn't send you more than one copy of
r2d2 did i lutz?

Arne Kleinophorst wrote:
> 
> Lutz Kretzschmar schrieb:
> 
> > Hi Arne Kleinophorst, you recently wrote in moray.win:
> >
> > > Well, wouldn't Moray give an Error if a Plugin would be missing?
> > Yes, it should. I didn't think this had anything to do with plugins.
> 
> No, you didn't. But Ryan did and i was too lazy to send 2 Mails :) I was pretty
> sure, that i would not concern the plugins since I try to keep up to date with
> the plugins.
> 
> <snip>
> 
> > And since it wasn't clear what error you were getting (i.e. was Moray
> > complaining or was POV-Ray not rendering) I asked what error you were
> > getting. If Moray doesn't complain, but POV-Ray doesn't render, then
> > maybe some imagemaps cannot be found by POV-Ray. As you probably know,
> > this can be check with View|Dependancies, which is why I suggested it.
> 
> Ok, i was a bit confusing concerning the result. But in my first statement i
> wrote:
> most of the objects doesn't seem to have (appropriate) textures.
> which in my opinion is concerning Moray, and on the other hand this would be the
> wrong newsgroup to post it :)
> 
> >
> > [Later]
> > Yup, you're right. If you use Alt-V or Tools|Check Scene you will get
> > an error message about Cube535 not having a texture. Nothing in that
> > hierarchy has a texture.
> >
> > Ryan, did I mess up and post the wrong R2D2, or did you send me an
> > older version?
> 
> NOW i feel much better. :) I really started to worry about some strange kind of
> stupidity. thanks
> 
> Arne Kleinophorst

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Hi ryan constantine, you recently wrote in moray.win:

> i didn't send you more than one copy of r2d2 did i lutz?
Not for V3.2.


- Lutz
  email : lut### [at] stmuccom
  Web   : http://www.stmuc.com/moray

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sorry for the long wait for a response from me.  i've been really busy. 
i just checked the r2d2 zip you have and i could render it no problem. 
however, when i ran the check scene thingy, i did confirm that the same
group of objects had no texture.  to fix this, find the 'connector' and
give it a texture of r2d2mainwhite.  it should be two parent levels
above cube 535.  do you have a default texture?  i thought that if
something wasn't textured it should be assigned the default texture.  if
after you have made this change it still doesn't render, write back with
as much detail as you can as i don't think it's my model's fault.

Lutz Kretzschmar wrote:
> 
> Hi ryan constantine, you recently wrote in moray.win:
> 
> > i didn't send you more than one copy of r2d2 did i lutz?
> Not for V3.2.
> 
> - Lutz
>   email : lut### [at] stmuccom
>   Web   : http://www.stmuc.com/moray

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Hi ryan constantine, you recently wrote in moray.win:

> i just checked the r2d2 zip you have and i could render it no problem. 
You probably have the "Check that objects have texture" checkbox
unchecked in View|Configuration, right?

> however, when i ran the check scene thingy, i did confirm that the same
> group of objects had no texture.  
Yes, this is the same function that is also called when you have that
checkbox enabled.

> to fix this, find the 'connector' and give it a texture of 
> r2d2mainwhite.  it should be two parent levels above cube 535.  
At the moment, I don't have the time to do this. Maybe later.

> do you have a default texture?  
Yes, it's bright red.

> i thought that if something wasn't textured it should be assigned 
> the default texture.  
No, there is no default texture that Moray handles. I have one setup
in my MorayPOV.INC file (red). If you do not have this setup, POV-Rays
default texture will be used (black).

- Lutz
  email : lut### [at] stmuccom
  Web   : http://www.stmuc.com/moray

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