On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 21:58:54 +1100
Chris Cason <del### [at] deletethistoopovrayorg> wrote:

> I can provide the POVCOMP site source code and web hosting for a new
> competition. Long-time POV user Lance Birch, a professional web
> designer, is willing to supervise and assist with the coding stage. We
> would need some additional help there, as well as at least three
> trusted people who are willing to make a long term commitment to
> supervising the operation of the contest.

Hi Chris

I'm not sure about the 'trusted' issue, but I've done quite a few pages
in PHP and others, I offer my help.
 
> I would like to suggest one possibility. It would be interesting to be
> able to conduct a series of competitions - of variable length according
> to difficulty - that I would perhaps describe as the "POV-Team's
> Challenge".

Yes! Every single one of the propositions seems tempting! And even though
the IRTC certainly has (had?) its merits, I would certainly welcome (and
would be more easily seduced to participate in) a more dynamic challenge.

John

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"John Coppens" <joh### [at] johncoppenscom> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 21:58:54 +1100
> Chris Cason <del### [at] deletethistoopovrayorg> wrote:
>
> > I can provide the POVCOMP site source code and web hosting for a new
> > competition. Long-time POV user Lance Birch, a professional web
> > designer, is willing to supervise and assist with the coding stage. We
> > would need some additional help there, as well as at least three
> > trusted people who are willing to make a long term commitment to
> > supervising the operation of the contest.
>
> Hi Chris
>
> I'm not sure about the 'trusted' issue, but I've done quite a few pages
> in PHP and others, I offer my help.
>
> > I would like to suggest one possibility. It would be interesting to be
> > able to conduct a series of competitions - of variable length according
> > to difficulty - that I would perhaps describe as the "POV-Team's
> > Challenge".
>
> Yes! Every single one of the propositions seems tempting! And even though
> the IRTC certainly has (had?) its merits, I would certainly welcome (and
> would be more easily seduced to participate in) a more dynamic challenge.
>
> John

Hi Chris,
As I mentioned before, I would be very happy to help out in any capacity.
Please email me, so we can discuss what is truly needed to make the irtc
continue on another ten years. I have Web programming background, and
would be willing to make a long term commitment to supervising the
operation of the contest.

Darin Bottner
dbo### [at] eastsoundsuitescom

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"Chris Cason" <del### [at] deletethistoopovrayorg> wrote in 
message news:45c076e4@news.povray.org...

<snipped but read>

     Chris, I'm truly sorry that I haven't replied any sooner to your 
suggestions. Personally, I think they are really good suggestions, but at 
the moment, I'm really confused as to what is happening with the IRTC, and 
to be honest, I'm really confused by the whole thing. It's like the pot of 
gold at the end of a rainbow - you can see the rainbow, but when you get to 
where you 'think' the end is, there's no pot of gold. (I've actually done 
that as a kid with a beautiful full colour range rainbow, (as I know it now, 
I didn't back then)).  ---> Disappointed.

     You want to show your 'hard-worked-on' image or animation, (which I'm 
getting into now), as a piece of 'art' within 'these' groups. Yes, you can 
post your image/animation elsewhere, but that's then segregated from here 
and you have to go physically look for it and hopefully have that account or 
create one to do so. (Even though we all might have to create an account for 
the new comp).

    My main point of this reply is that everyone is left in limbo 'now', 
which is why I'm doing what I'm doing with the help and suggestions of 
others - I really and sincerely hope this is ok with you Chris. When I 
create this new site (and if I have to at all), I would feel more 
comfortable with your blessing. (It seems as though you are not getting the 
answers that you want too).

     ~Steve~



> -- Chris

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A long time ago Chris Cason wrote:

> Going on, to me, the question is: what would pique your interest and keep it
> long term? A clone of the IRTC? Or something quite different, but with a
> similar flavor? Or something else entirely? Or even a competition that has no
> set flavor - one that changes according to the times?

I'd be interested in a clone/continuation of the irtc - and the "Tina 
Chep" round (and hopefully the "before/after" round) seem to show that 
there's still some demand for this.....

> I would like to suggest one possibility. It would be interesting to be able
> to conduct a series of competitions - of variable length according to
> difficulty - that I would perhaps describe as the "POV-Team's Challenge".

I do like the challenge ideas and the variable lengths and styles of the 
challenges might cause different people to come up with some impressive 
results. They might inspire people for whom the irtc format has grown 
stale, but I'd suggest/request they should run in parallel to the IRTC 
or it's successor.

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OK, it's a little early to say this, but this is probably the right place.
That idea I double posted (sorry) of having a decentralized contest site
stuck with me --- and I realized it didn't need to be specific to graphics
(though that would be a major audience). So I'm building it.

I figure it's going to be another month or so before alpha testing. If you'd
like to help build, I'm happy to consider it, but what I'd really love to
have is a group to do testing when the time comes.

Anyone interested?




--
Sam Bleckley
http://www.enso.freeshell.org/

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Sounds interesting. I agree that it's mostly about the deadline, also for me 
it has a lot to do with the topic. Plus fast contests would be fun (I can 
definitely make something in 1 hour!).

I'll definitely take a look at the site when you have it running and if the 
contests are interesting I'll enter!

-- 
Tek
http://evilsuperbrain.com

"stm31415" <stm### [at] gmailcom> wrote in message 
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> OK, it's a little early to say this, but this is probably the right place.
> That idea I double posted (sorry) of having a decentralized contest site
> stuck with me --- and I realized it didn't need to be specific to graphics
> (though that would be a major audience). So I'm building it.
>
> I figure it's going to be another month or so before alpha testing. If 
> you'd
> like to help build, I'm happy to consider it, but what I'd really love to
> have is a group to do testing when the time comes.
>
> Anyone interested?
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sam Bleckley
> http://www.enso.freeshell.org/
>
>

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I just saw this post. 

I had an idea of spicing up the topics, the old system of which I often
found deflating. When I felt I was going to be making a (nonetheless
LAME-O) space epic when others were going to be making demos of special
effects in photorealism, I was uninspired.

http://base.google.com/base/a/1047972/D17372762218891870809

I took the 5800 book titles available at Project Gutenberg and took out the
800-odd that I thought would be really fun to animate to-- things like
Jules Verne, Poe, Edgar Rice Burroughs, some Shakespeare, some Twain, some
Doyle.  For example if the title were "Queen of Mars" you wouldn't
necessarily have to go study that particular text in order to be on-topic,
but the title itself just makes for all kinds of coolness.

Folks could review the list to see if any were completely objectionable and
then if we still have say >>>300 items we could pick from those on a random
basis. 

I was half-thinking starting "my own" contest on youtube, but that may or
may not be a good idea. ;-)

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Warp wrote:

>   Btw, the short code contests have been one of the best advertisements
> for POV-Ray I have ever seen. 


:-D     That was always my thoughts as well.

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This looks like an attractive idea, Greg.
One could make it even more hilarious/interesting by scrambling randomly the 
words of the titles, like is done in the book macro of Gilles Tran for 
instance.

Thomas


"Greg M. Johnson" <pte### [at] thecommononethatstartswithYcom> schreef in 
bericht news:45f8b179@news.povray.org...
>I just saw this post.
>
> I had an idea of spicing up the topics, the old system of which I often
> found deflating. When I felt I was going to be making a (nonetheless
> LAME-O) space epic when others were going to be making demos of special
> effects in photorealism, I was uninspired.
>
> http://base.google.com/base/a/1047972/D17372762218891870809
>
> I took the 5800 book titles available at Project Gutenberg and took out 
> the
> 800-odd that I thought would be really fun to animate to-- things like
> Jules Verne, Poe, Edgar Rice Burroughs, some Shakespeare, some Twain, some
> Doyle.  For example if the title were "Queen of Mars" you wouldn't
> necessarily have to go study that particular text in order to be on-topic,
> but the title itself just makes for all kinds of coolness.
>
> Folks could review the list to see if any were completely objectionable 
> and
> then if we still have say >>>300 items we could pick from those on a 
> random
> basis.
>
> I was half-thinking starting "my own" contest on youtube, but that may or
> may not be a good idea. ;-)
>

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Hi all:

I have participated in several contests of the IRTC (14 times).

http://exether.free.fr/irtc/index.php?sub=authors&lang=es&auth=enrique_sahagun_alonso

and somehow I left it (as someone said) because I now need much more time to
get satisfied with my images. So appart from the ideas you gave I propose to
stand at least two stills contests, a sort-term and a long-term one.

And to finish I will say something that I know, it is not going to be very
popular. When I started participating in the IRTC it was very exciting to
me that no (lets say) post-production was allowed. And due to that, since
then, I had the idea that in and out of the IRTC, no post-production should
be used. Now that I do my images not for the IRTC but for myself I'm
starting to use post-production to improve my images. I'm not very good
with this (I'm still learning how to use the GIMP and similar software) but
I think it is a good idea to make a picture with pov and then
try to improve it by using filters.

I dont know if this last idea is going to look interesting to all you, but
think of it for a while.

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