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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: yay! got my graphics tablet :D
Date: 4 Nov 2009 10:36:36
Message: <4af19f84$1@news.povray.org>
>>> Well, everyone has a special talent:  you have good math skills.
>>
>> I'm not sure where everybody gets this idea from. I have no idea how 
>> to perform polynomial division, complete the square, factorise 
>> polynomials, compute triangle angles or any number of other basic 
>> school-level math tasks. (Not forgetting of course that I have *no 
>> idea* what 7 * 6 is without getting out pencil and paper to calculate 
>> it.)
> 
> well, I thought your alias mathorchid and Haskell affinity would have 
> anything to do with it.  Your fractal renderings too...

Heh, well, perhaps. Still, you don't need to know any maths at all to 
install and run FractInt.

> How are you supposed to know about basic school-level math stuff when 
> you didn't go to a normal school?

That's about the size of it, really.

> And forget that, you're way past that 
> basic level, you're now an advanced math geek using computers to do the 
> low-level math glue code... :D

Haha, well maybe. It just seems like there's a whole crapload of math I 
don't understand that everybody else does. But maybe that's just because 
I'm surrounded by people way smarter than me...


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: yay! got my graphics tablet :D
Date: 4 Nov 2009 10:53:10
Message: <4af1a366@news.povray.org>
On 11/3/2009 3:14 PM, stbenge wrote:
> My intuos4 medium tablet finally came yesterday! It was a long wait. Why
> is it that anticipation dilates time?
>
> This tablet is awesome. It works very well with Gimp 2.6. No full
> support for the touch ring though. Rotating and zooming can be
> difficult, but that's what detachable menus are for :)

Excellent! Wacom makes a great tablet. I have a small intuos3 at home 
The drawing area is about the size of a 4x6 card, but it doesn't 
dominate the desk. I use mine mostly for photo retouching/clean-up, and 
it works exceptionally well for me. I occasionally do some sketches, but 
nothing on the level that you've demonstrated.

> Adobe Illustrator 9 also supports pressure sensitivity, which is a big
> plus.

I didn't know Illustrator was pressure sensitive. Cool ;)

> Anyway, I said I would post some pics once my tablet came in, so here
> are a few:
>
> http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/qq199/stbenge/char8.png?t=1257281871
> http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/qq199/stbenge/Gnome.jpg?t=1257282031
> http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/qq199/stbenge/char6.jpg?t=1257282108
> http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/qq199/stbenge/eye.jpg?t=1257282224
>

Nice drawings :) I used to draw quite well in HS, but it's been a long 
time since I've done any serious drawing.

> Thanks nemesis and Jim, for helping me make a good decision. It was not
> a frivolous purchase ;)

A good tablet never is. I'm glad I have mine :)

-- 
~Mike


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: yay! got my graphics tablet :D
Date: 4 Nov 2009 14:06:46
Message: <4af1d0c6$1@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:36:34 +0000, Invisible wrote:

>> And forget that, you're way past that basic level, you're now an
>> advanced math geek using computers to do the low-level math glue
>> code... :D
> 
> Haha, well maybe. It just seems like there's a whole crapload of math I
> don't understand that everybody else does. But maybe that's just because
> I'm surrounded by people way smarter than me...

Well, story goes that Einstein sucked at maths as well....

Jim


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From: stbenge
Subject: Re: yay! got my graphics tablet :D
Date: 4 Nov 2009 14:28:39
Message: <4af1d5e7$1@news.povray.org>
Mike Raiford wrote:
> Nice drawings :) I used to draw quite well in HS, but it's been a long 
> time since I've done any serious drawing.

Thanks! The last "serious" drawing I made was for a fellow mineral hound:
http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/qq199/stbenge/berylProspector_retouched.jpg?t=1257362210

Just pencil-on-paper and referenced from this photo of Prospector Gabby:
http://mentalfloss.cachefly.net/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/gabby.jpg

I thought it would be funny to show a miner holding an impossibly large 
beryl crystal, but as it turns out, specimens of that size are 
occasionally found :S

> On 11/3/2009 3:14 PM, stbenge wrote: 
>> Thanks nemesis and Jim, for helping me make a good decision. It was not
>> a frivolous purchase ;)
> 
> A good tablet never is. I'm glad I have mine :)

Last time I talked to my grandmother she asked if I was drawing much and 
I said no... she sounded so let down. I realized that I should probably 
keep my skills up. Buying the tablet was like investing in myself :)


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From: stbenge
Subject: Re: yay! got my graphics tablet :D
Date: 4 Nov 2009 14:32:46
Message: <4af1d6de@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> An entire year of drawing classes, and I never once produced anything 
> approaching being this good. Kind of depressing, really. I guess I just 
> inherantly suck at drawing. :-(

I guess I'll take that as a complement, as depressing as it sounds :(


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From: stbenge
Subject: Re: yay! got my graphics tablet :D
Date: 4 Nov 2009 14:43:31
Message: <4af1d963@news.povray.org>
nemesis wrote:
> Well, everyone has a special talent:  you have good math skills.  My 
> skills at math and povray are kinda poor.  Sam just beat both of us in 
> both drawing, math and povray! :D

My math isn't really all that great. I still can't add/subract most 
fractions, and in school, I never even made it to algebra. I ended up 
learning it by programming in QBasic. Over time I've found some tricks, 
but show me an equation (like those you find at Wikipedia or 
mathworld.wolfram) and I'm completely lost.


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: yay! got my graphics tablet :D
Date: 4 Nov 2009 15:37:16
Message: <4af1e5fc@news.povray.org>
stbenge escreveu:
> Mike Raiford wrote:
>> Nice drawings :) I used to draw quite well in HS, but it's been a long 
>> time since I've done any serious drawing.
> 
> Thanks! The last "serious" drawing I made was for a fellow mineral hound:
>
http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/qq199/stbenge/berylProspector_retouched.jpg?t=1257362210

> 
> 
> Just pencil-on-paper and referenced from this photo of Prospector Gabby:
> http://mentalfloss.cachefly.net/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/gabby.jpg
> 
> I thought it would be funny to show a miner holding an impossibly large 
> beryl crystal, but as it turns out, specimens of that size are 
> occasionally found :S

That drawing is so great!  I like too how you replaced the gun for the 
crystal, but I notice the shadow of the gun is still on his left hand. 
:)  Hope with Gimp Paint Shop brushes you may be able to do some nice 
fine pencil sketching like that.

BTW, the tablet surface has some wonderful paper-like texture feel, 
isn't it?

-- 
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From: stbenge
Subject: Re: yay! got my graphics tablet :D
Date: 4 Nov 2009 16:46:00
Message: <4af1f618@news.povray.org>
nemesis wrote:
> stbenge escreveu:
>> Thanks! The last "serious" drawing I made was for a fellow mineral hound:
>>
http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/qq199/stbenge/berylProspector_retouched.jpg?t=1257362210

> 
> That drawing is so great!  I like too how you replaced the gun for the 
> crystal, but I notice the shadow of the gun is still on his left hand. 

The crystal comes away from the hand towards the camera... I kept the 
shadow of the gun and used it for the shadow of the crystal instead... 
It's probably not accurate ;)

> :)  Hope with *Gimp Paint Shop brushes you may be able to do some nice 
> fine pencil sketching like that.

Yeah, I think I might try a geological diagram of eroded mountains soon. 
That kind of sketching is nice for such things.

I was meaning to ask you, are the *GPS brushes an add-on for the Gimp? 
If so, can you use them with Gimp 2.6? Or are the GPS brushes a whole 
different version of the Gimp?

I like Gimp 2.6 for a few reasons, but it doesn't smear colors 
correctly... It seems the developers might have broken the smear tool 
when switching to the new color-handling scheme.

> BTW, the tablet surface has some wonderful paper-like texture feel, 
> isn't it?

Yes, actually it does. It even sounds like drawing of fine paper.

I got to briefly play with a drawing tablet back in '99 or '00. Its 
surface was too slick, and the report rate was *really* low. It was 
lagging big-time. I'm glad tablets aren't like that anymore :)


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: yay! got my graphics tablet :D
Date: 4 Nov 2009 17:02:19
Message: <4af1f9eb@news.povray.org>
stbenge escreveu:
> nemesis wrote:
>> :)  Hope with *Gimp Paint Shop brushes you may be able to do some nice 
>> fine pencil sketching like that.
> 
> Yeah, I think I might try a geological diagram of eroded mountains soon. 
> That kind of sketching is nice for such things.
> 
> I was meaning to ask you, are the *GPS brushes an add-on for the Gimp? 
> If so, can you use them with Gimp 2.6? Or are the GPS brushes a whole 
> different version of the Gimp?

It's a package containing a fine collection of brushes, patterns, 
palletes and a few other goodies for the Gimp:

http://code.google.com/p/gps-gimp-paint-studio/

it's got a nice manual too.  The spanish guy who created it is a fine 
artist too.

Basically, it's just a zip and you copy its brushes, palletes and other 
directories to the user gimp directories.  Done.

> I like Gimp 2.6 for a few reasons, but it doesn't smear colors 
> correctly... It seems the developers might have broken the smear tool 
> when switching to the new color-handling scheme.

hmm, didn't notice it... :s

> I got to briefly play with a drawing tablet back in '99 or '00. Its 
> surface was too slick, and the report rate was *really* low. It was 
> lagging big-time. I'm glad tablets aren't like that anymore :)

a-ha, so that was your bias against it... :)

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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: yay! got my graphics tablet :D
Date: 4 Nov 2009 17:21:23
Message: <4af1fe63$1@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:02:17 -0200, nemesis wrote:

>> I like Gimp 2.6 for a few reasons, but it doesn't smear colors
>> correctly... It seems the developers might have broken the smear tool
>> when switching to the new color-handling scheme.
> 
> hmm, didn't notice it... :s

Hmm, I didn't really either - I do occasionally play with the smear tool 
just for fun and it seems to work OK for me.

Jim


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