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From: Jeremy "UncleHoot" Praay
Subject: Re: You know it's been a cold winter when...
Date: 5 Feb 2009 13:57:24
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"Orchid XP v8" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message 
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>
> I have video footage of me standing outside in my pyjamas, bare foot, in 
> several inches of snow.
>
> Let me repeat that: My bare feet are immersed in actual ice. The air 
> temperature is several degrees below freezing.
>
> And yet... it didn't seem all that cold. WTF?! Not sure how that's 

> my hands and feet are numb with cold. And I'm wearing multiple layers!
>

I went on a business trip (partly business) to Tucson, Arizona a few years 

would sweat through my shirt every single day, and yet I would see other 
people, including my co-workers, perfectly dry.  Apparently, it's just 
another one of those things that people adjust to.  I think I'm more 
cold-adjusted.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: You know it's been a cold winter when...
Date: 5 Feb 2009 14:36:58
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Jeremy "UncleHoot" Praay wrote:
> I went on a business trip (partly business) to Tucson, Arizona a few years 

I was hiking behind a couple of college-age girls in Zion National Park a 
few years go.
http://www.wallpaper.net.au/wallpapers/landscapes-scenery/Zion-National-Park-Utah-Jon-Zander-2-1024x768.jpg
Think Wile E. Coyote landscape.

They were from Phoenix Arizona, and they were complaining about how humid it 
was, then mentioned something about going to college in New Jersey. I said 
"If you think this is humid, you're going to need to buy a dehumidifier." 
One of the girls said "A *de*humidifier? They make those??"

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "Ouch ouch ouch!"
   "What's wrong? Noodles too hot?"
   "No, I have Chopstick Tunnel Syndrome."


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: You know it's been a cold winter when...
Date: 6 Feb 2009 00:00:57
Message: <498bc409$1@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 18:46:27 +0000, Orchid XP v8 wrote:

>> It's funny how that works, isn't it?  My wife and I went out the other
>> day to go chat with our neighbours, and she put on a fairly heavy coat;
>> I went out wearing a T-shirt.
>> 
>> It was 37F outside at the time.  She declared it cold, but I thought it
>> was really nice out.
>> 
>> But 37F in October or November is *freezing*.
> 
> I have video footage of me standing outside in my pyjamas, bare foot, in
> several inches of snow.

I've done the barefoot thing in the snow.  I grew up in Minnesota, where 
it gets damned cold (or used to when I was growing up) and the snow was 
usually a couple of feet deep through the winter - the only exception was 
the pile that was made by the snowblower from clearing the driveway - 
that tended to be taller than I was.

> Let me repeat that: My bare feet are immersed in actual ice. The air
> temperature is several degrees below freezing.
> 
> And yet... it didn't seem all that cold. WTF?! Not sure how that's
> physically possible... right now the air in my bedroom is about 17°C and
> my hands and feet are numb with cold. And I'm wearing multiple layers!

I think it's a combination of relative temperatures and when you're 
younger, your heart beats faster, keeping your core temperature up easier.

But that's just a guess; I didn't take biology in high school or college.

Jim


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: You know it's been a cold winter when...
Date: 6 Feb 2009 00:03:12
Message: <498bc490$1@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 11:36:56 -0800, Darren New wrote:

> Jeremy "UncleHoot" Praay wrote:
>> I went on a business trip (partly business) to Tucson, Arizona a few
>> years
> 
> I was hiking behind a couple of college-age girls in Zion National Park
> a few years go.
> http://www.wallpaper.net.au/wallpapers/landscapes-scenery/Zion-National-
Park-Utah-Jon-Zander-2-1024x768.jpg
> Think Wile E. Coyote landscape.
> 
> They were from Phoenix Arizona, and they were complaining about how
> humid it was, then mentioned something about going to college in New
> Jersey. I said "If you think this is humid, you're going to need to buy
> a dehumidifier." One of the girls said "A *de*humidifier? They make
> those??"

LOL

I remember going to school in Florida; the humidity there was insanely 
high most of the time.  The only place I've been where there was more 
humidity was Cancun (I spent about 15 minutes there on a trip to Mexico 
City - we missed our connection in Chicago and ended up on a chartered 
flight that had a stop in Cancun before going to Mexico City).  We got 
off the plane, turned in our customs forms, and got back on the plane.

And in the span of that time, I think everyone's clothes got soaked 
enough that you'd think we'd been standing in the rain.  But the sky was 
clear. :-)

Jim


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: You know it's been a cold winter when...
Date: 6 Feb 2009 00:03:43
Message: <498bc4af$1@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:22:08 -0400, Jim Holsenback wrote:

> "Jeremy "UncleHoot" Praay" <jer### [at] questsoftwarecmo> wrote in message
> news:498b0402$1@news.povray.org...
>> You step outside in the morning and think, "Hey, it's kind of warm this
>> morning," only to realize later that it was less than 20° F.
>>
>> Lots of sub zero (° F) temps for the last month.  I think we had one
>> day last week where it may have gone just above the freezing point.  It
>> honestly felt really warm.  LOL.
> 
> It was a rather balmy +3C the other morning, yet I was out front for
> morning coffee and cig wearing a hoodie. Two days earlier wouldn't dare
> go out unless I was wearing at least 4 layers. Can't wait for April
> .....

According to the weather applet on my desktop now, it's 43F here in Salt 
Lake.  Didn't need a jacket when I went outside this evening to go to the 
gym.

Jim


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From: Phil Cook v2
Subject: Re: You know it's been a cold winter when...
Date: 6 Feb 2009 05:08:34
Message: <op.uoxc4gd8mn4jds@phils>
And lo On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 05:03:43 -0000, Jim Henderson  
<nos### [at] nospamcom> did spake thusly:

> On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:22:08 -0400, Jim Holsenback wrote:
>
>> "Jeremy "UncleHoot" Praay" <jer### [at] questsoftwarecmo> wrote in message
>> news:498b0402$1@news.povray.org...
>>> You step outside in the morning and think, "Hey, it's kind of warm this
>>> morning," only to realize later that it was less than 20° F.
>>>
>>> Lots of sub zero (° F) temps for the last month.  I think we had one
>>> day last week where it may have gone just above the freezing point.  It
>>> honestly felt really warm.  LOL.
>>
>> It was a rather balmy +3C the other morning, yet I was out front for
>> morning coffee and cig wearing a hoodie. Two days earlier wouldn't dare
>> go out unless I was wearing at least 4 layers. Can't wait for April
>> .....
>
> According to the weather applet on my desktop now, it's 43F here in Salt
> Lake.

According to mine it's 34F (1°C) here at the moment and everyone is  
grateful the temperature's gone up, lowest point was apparently about 18F  
(-8°C) nearby.

-- 
Phil Cook

--
I once tried to be apathetic, but I just couldn't be bothered
http://flipc.blogspot.com


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: You know it's been a cold winter when...
Date: 6 Feb 2009 14:12:25
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On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 10:08:30 +0000, Phil Cook v2 wrote:

> According to mine it's 34F (1°C) here at the moment and everyone is
> grateful the temperature's gone up, lowest point was apparently about
> 18F (-8°C) nearby.

Now that's getting into cold-ish territory.  Though I remember wind 
chills approaching -70 F while I was growing up.  Of course, I lived in 
the only school district in the state that held classes when the temps 
got that low.

Jim


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From: Phil Cook v2
Subject: Re: You know it's been a cold winter when...
Date: 9 Feb 2009 09:08:32
Message: <op.uo278slnmn4jds@phils>
And lo On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 19:12:25 -0000, Jim Henderson  
<nos### [at] nospamcom> did spake thusly:

> On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 10:08:30 +0000, Phil Cook v2 wrote:
>
>> According to mine it's 34F (1°C) here at the moment and everyone is
>> grateful the temperature's gone up, lowest point was apparently about
>> 18F (-8°C) nearby.
>
> Now that's getting into cold-ish territory.  Though I remember wind
> chills approaching -70 F while I was growing up.  Of course, I lived in
> the only school district in the state that held classes when the temps
> got that low.

Stepped out the house just and my neighbour had popped out for a smoke, we  
both looked at the drizzling rain and he asked "Do you know when we're  
supposed to be having snow?"
"I thought it was supposed to be before the rain, or possibly instead of.  
If it falls now it's not going to stick"
"I asked [wife] why the kids were at home and she said the school was  
closed due to the blizzard later"

We both looked up at the tupperware sky throwing rain at us.

"Yeah, right" we both said; 5C now.

-- 
Phil Cook

--
I once tried to be apathetic, but I just couldn't be bothered
http://flipc.blogspot.com


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From: Jeremy "UncleHoot" Praay
Subject: Re: You know it's been a cold winter when...
Date: 9 Feb 2009 10:03:40
Message: <499045cc$1@news.povray.org>
"Jim Henderson" <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote in message 
news:498b1234@news.povray.org...
> It's funny how that works, isn't it?  My wife and I went out the other
> day to go chat with our neighbours, and she put on a fairly heavy coat; I
> went out wearing a T-shirt.
>
> It was 37F outside at the time.  She declared it cold, but I thought it
> was really nice out.
>
> But 37F in October or November is *freezing*.
>
My daughter and I were outside kicking around her soccer ball yesterday.  It 
was about 45 degrees and sunny at the time.  Neither of us needed jackets. 
If it was July, we'd have frozen to death.  It's so strange...

We're currently getting some warm weather, and the snow is quickly 
disappearing.  I wish it would hold for awhile, but spring is still 2 months 
away.


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: You know it's been a cold winter when...
Date: 9 Feb 2009 21:41:19
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On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 10:03:40 -0500, Jeremy \"UncleHoot\" Praay wrote:

> "Jim Henderson" <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote in message
> news:498b1234@news.povray.org...
>> It's funny how that works, isn't it?  My wife and I went out the other
>> day to go chat with our neighbours, and she put on a fairly heavy coat;
>> I went out wearing a T-shirt.
>>
>> It was 37F outside at the time.  She declared it cold, but I thought it
>> was really nice out.
>>
>> But 37F in October or November is *freezing*.
>>
> My daughter and I were outside kicking around her soccer ball yesterday.
>  It was about 45 degrees and sunny at the time.  Neither of us needed
> jackets. If it was July, we'd have frozen to death.  It's so strange...
> 
> We're currently getting some warm weather, and the snow is quickly
> disappearing.  I wish it would hold for awhile, but spring is still 2
> months away.

Can't wait for it to get here, that's for sure.  I was standing in our 
office building to day (a rare day for me - I was actually not working 
from home) and it just suddenly dumped all over us - rain, snow, sleet, 
hail - not really sure what it was.  But there was a LOT of it.

The two guys I was talking to said "wow, that's cool", and I pointed out 
I had to drive 45 miles in it.  They thought it was slightly less cool.

In fairness, it was a pretty impressive bit of precip.

Jim


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