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hi chris,
i fear blobs, chris. although i have seen the tutorial for making
a hand in the pov docs, it appears... intuitive to me, and i have
about as much intuition as a rock.
thanks, miker
Chris Huff <Chr### [at] compuserve com> wrote in message
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> Blobs?
>
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hi cliff,
ok, i'll look at blobman. i've got the zip and i thought i might
use him but i just figured that he was created with some third
party software that would make the include file unreadable to
normal humans.
thanks, miker
Cliff Bowman <c.b### [at] cwcomduffcom> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 22 Jul 1999 11:13:41 -0500, "MR" <a### [at] bnet> wrote:
>
> >hello,
> >
> >i've been playing with pov now for almost 6 months, and for that
> >time i've been caught up in writing equations for humanoid motion,
> >and have learned precious little about pov itself and even less
> >about moray and spatch.
> >
> >well, the motion equations are written, and i have a system set up
> >that i can at least use, and i'm ready to banish my stick figure
> >composed of cylinders and spheres for a little more life-like
> >figure.
> >
> >what would you suggest that i use to construct the various body
> >parts with? meshes? i get the feeling that moray or spatch might
> >be handy for constructing them. i've gone thru most of the moray
> >tutorial, but i can't say that any particular process has jumped out
> >at me and said, "use this to model a face."
> >
> I'd suggest (going by the images produced) taking a look at the
> blob-man include file...
>
> Failing that, possibly borrowing some 3D meshes from around the net?
> (3D Cafe and the like).
>
> There's at least 1 tutorial on making human heads with sPatch, though
> I can't offhand think where it is :(
>
> The biggest problem with using meshes would probaly be the joints -
> problems that blobman almost certainly doesn't suffer from.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Cliff Bowman
> Why not pay my 3D Dr Who site a visit at http://www.who3d.cwc.net/
> PS change ".duffcom" to ".net" if replying via e-mail
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hey andrew,
thanks for the comments. remember emailing me all those
cool media files a while back?
most of the motion equations were totally uninspiring. 80%
of it is nothing but motion using spherical coordinates. for
example, the shoulder to the elbow, and then again... the
elbow to the wrist (i haven't done the hands yet). the length
is fixed, and i just feed a macro two angle increments, one
coming down off the vertical axis, and the other out from the
x axis.
but when i wanted to specify the hip, ankle, and toe point and
then have the code calculate where the knee would be (is this
inverse kinematics?), it just about killed me. ha ha. took me
a month to come back up to speed enough on the math to
solve that one.
and right now... the body parts are static. they will not flex
with motion.
thanks, miker
Andrew Cocker <and### [at] acockerfreeservecouk> wrote in message
news:3797d468@news.povray.org...
> I have a macro somewhere that places objects between two points, like
beads
> on a string. As the distance between each joint remains constant, couldn't
> you use this method? You could build each limb from many spheres of
various
> sizes, and you'd only need to animate the joint movement in 3d space. You
> could actually simulate muscle flexing also by affecting the scale of
> individual components. It'd be difficult to do certainly, but better
perhaps
> than blobs or meshes.
> I had intended to do this myself, using rotating orbiting blob-shapes, but
> couldn't find the movement data for the joints. Motion capture data was
what
> I was looking for, but had no joy.
>
> Just thought, if you created each limb seperately, then maybe you could
> cylindrically map a bump_map on each one to simulate muscle tone.
>
> ------
> Andy
>
>
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I find blobs hard to control... I remember seeing some space ships months
ago that were done in blobs and looked good... but blobs, for me, always
look out of place... perhaps I took too many life drawing courses or
somthing, but computer generated people need to be accurate or cartoonish,
and I haven't seen blobs go far enough in either direction..
This is of course, purely my opinion. I am impressed with the blob man
include file in that it can pose complex objects, but I'm not satisfied
with the way it looks.
Joshua
eng### [at] spiritonecom
Chris Huff wrote:
> >You can use blobs, but I'm not satisfied with that look, personally.<
>
> A simple question(or perhaps not...), why?
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On Fri, 23 Jul 1999 01:55:10 +0100, "Andrew Cocker"
<and### [at] acockerfreeservecouk> wrote:
>I have a macro somewhere that places objects between two points, like beads
>on a string. As the distance between each joint remains constant, couldn't
>you use this method? You could build each limb from many spheres of various
>sizes, and you'd only need to animate the joint movement in 3d space. You
>could actually simulate muscle flexing also by affecting the scale of
>individual components. It'd be difficult to do certainly, but better perhaps
>than blobs or meshes.
>I had intended to do this myself, using rotating orbiting blob-shapes, but
>couldn't find the movement data for the joints. Motion capture data was what
>I was looking for, but had no joy.
>
I've found a few sites with motion data on them in what I'm told is a
comparatively "standard format" - BVH files. I've not found (or looked
for) the file specification but it's probably "out there" if you know
that BVH is another word to use when doing searches. I was actually
looking for other stuff when I found it so I don't have any URL's to
hand - but give me a yell if this doesn't help and I'll see if I can
find some again.
Cheers,
Cliff Bowman
Why not pay my 3D Dr Who site a visit at http://www.who3d.cwc.net/
PS change ".duffcom" to ".net" if replying via e-mail
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Cliff Bowman <c.b### [at] cwcomduffcom> wrote in message
news:37988b18.60314359@news.povray.org...
> I've found a few sites with motion data on them in what I'm told is a
> comparatively "standard format" - BVH files. I've not found (or looked
> for) the file specification but it's probably "out there" if you know
> that BVH is another word to use when doing searches. I was actually
> looking for other stuff when I found it so I don't have any URL's to
> hand - but give me a yell if this doesn't help and I'll see if I can
> find some again.
Thanks Cliff, but it's not a priority at the mo'. But let me ask you
something regarding Dr Who. What was the title of the episode (s) that
featured the Krynoids (not sure of the spelling), the plant-like tentacled
things? I remember it scared me more than any other episode. It was a Tom
Baker Dr. Who ( the best ).
Cheers,
Andy
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I second the request.
Mr. Art
Zeger Knaepen wrote:
>
> Can't help you with the body-model, but can we have the human-motion
> formulas?
>
> ZK
--
Advanced means constantly wondering where reality gets its processing
power.
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On Fri, 23 Jul 1999 19:29:59 +0100, "Andrew Cocker"
<and### [at] acockerfreeservecouk> wrote:
>
[snip Motion-Capture/BVH]
>
>Thanks Cliff, but it's not a priority at the mo'. But let me ask you
>something regarding Dr Who. What was the title of the episode (s) that
>featured the Krynoids (not sure of the spelling), the plant-like tentacled
>things? I remember it scared me more than any other episode. It was a Tom
>Baker Dr. Who ( the best ).
>
It's "The Seeds of Doom" - and yes, at the time I found it terrifying.
Thinking back I can't help but think that the later stages could be
done better now with POV (you know the bits I mean - ginormous plant
attacks huge "house") as long as POv was given a render farm the size
of London to work with <eg>.
Ooo-err. I think I've just become the group's token Dr Who geek.
Eeek!
Cheers,
Cliff Bowman
Why not pay my 3D Dr Who site a visit at http://www.who3d.cwc.net/
PS change ".duffcom" to ".net" if replying via e-mail
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Then prepare to feel insulted:
What's this Dr. Who, anyway? A TV show? I think I saw a computer game on that
theme once and never quite figured out what the hell was going on.
Have I missed something good? :P
Margus
Cliff Bowman wrote:
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> Ooo-err. I think I've just become the group's token Dr Who geek.
>
> Eeek!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Cliff Bowman
> Why not pay my 3D Dr Who site a visit at http://www.who3d.cwc.net/
> PS change ".duffcom" to ".net" if replying via e-mail
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Hey, Margus, you've not lived until you watch a year of Dr. Who shows. I
was always tuning in to see the next episode as the Tardis (time machine
disguised as a English phone booth) went galavanting about the universe
and landing in more trouble. It was quite some time before I knew of the
other Dr. Who's (the main character actor changed over time) as I
recall. That was back in the early 80's when I saw the TV show on a
Public Broadcasting Station in Seattle. For those not in the know about
it the series was beyond sci-fi lameness I thought, so much so it was
intriguing. Simply great to sit and watch and let the mind rest. That's
my opinion of it anyway.
Margus Ramst wrote:
>
> Then prepare to feel insulted:
> What's this Dr. Who, anyway? A TV show? I think I saw a computer game on that
> theme once and never quite figured out what the hell was going on.
> Have I missed something good? :P
>
> Margus
>
> Cliff Bowman wrote:
> >
> > Ooo-err. I think I've just become the group's token Dr Who geek.
> >
> > Eeek!
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Cliff Bowman
> > Why not pay my 3D Dr Who site a visit at http://www.who3d.cwc.net/
> > PS change ".duffcom" to ".net" if replying via e-mail
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