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On Wed, 29 Sep 1999 11:42:37 -0400, TonyB wrote:
>OK. Another question I have is which distribution to go with. I can get
>Mandrake. I have RedHat 5.2. Mr. Parker recommends Caldera. Should I just
>install the one I can get my hands on the quickest?
I didn't recommend it necessarily, just mentioned that it uses Boot Magic
as installed. I use it at home, but I'll be upgrading to Debian 2.1 just
as soon as I can burn the images onto CDs.
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What's your opinion on SuSE?
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On Wed, 29 Sep 1999 13:55:38 -0400, TonyB wrote:
>What's your opinion on SuSE?
I have a copy I got for free at Comdex. I haven't installed it, so I have
no opinion on it.
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On Wed, 29 Sep 1999 13:55:38 -0400, "TonyB" <ben### [at] panama phoenixnet> wrote:
>What's your opinion on SuSE?
>
I have just loaded SuSE 6.2 on my 2nd machine (P120 48Mb) and it seems pretty good. I
haven't tried POVRay yet - it wasn't meant for Raytracing, but as a machine just to
try
out Linux.
I am quite impressed with KDE and the idea that you have several different window
managers. At the moment I only have an old monitor hooked up to it and this is rather
flaky, but my intention is to get a larger monitor for my main machine and pass the
current monitor down the line.
I have a lot to learn about Unix before I can be confident about programming with it,
and
the problem is finding the time. These pesky newsgroups take so much time - just
reading
things, never mind answering some and also trying to do a bit of ray tracing :-)
David
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TonyB wrote:
> >4) On top of X and the window manager runs your desktop environment, if you
> >so choose to have one. This is usually either KDE (booo hiss) or GNOME.
>
> So KDE is bad even though it is more 'mature' than GNOME?
Yes. And MS Windows is bad even though it is more 'mature' than Linux. ;-)
> >From what I read a little, sticking with LILO is the better thing to do. I
> >scanned the newsgroups this last spring when I bought Partition Magic and
> >first installed Linux at home.
>
> So, you use Boot Magic, but you recommend LILO?
No. I bought PartitionMagic, but from the little reading I did, decided to go
with LILO over Boot Magic. The gist of things may have been that PartitionMagic
was nicer graphically, but that LILO just was more robust and worked better.
> >BTW, if forgot to mention. I'd strongly suggest going with Red Hat 6.0 over
> >5.2. Among other things, there is the change from the 2.0.x kernel to the
> >2.2.x series. If you want, you can get the free version from places like
> >CheapBytes for $1.99 + S/H for a bootable install CD. (that's all I ever
> use)
>
> The guy I can get Mandrake from bought it via CheapBytes. Unfortunately I
> can't get any money out of dad, so that's not an option for me. The time I
> bought 5.2 was 'cause I was in Miami (Junior Orange Bowl) playing chess and
> I had some spending cash on me.
>
> OK. Another question I have is which distribution to go with. I can get
> Mandrake. I have RedHat 5.2. Mr. Parker recommends Caldera. Should I just
> install the one I can get my hands on the quickest?
Well, one thing I'd go by is try to get one that has 2.2.x kernel. Or skip
lunch a few days and buy the CheapBytes RedHat 6.0
--
"My new computer's got the clocks, it rocks
But it was obsolete before I opened the box" - W.A.Y.
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>Yes. And MS Windows is bad even though it is more 'mature' than Linux.
;-)
It IS?
>No. I bought PartitionMagic, but from the little reading I did, decided to
go
>with LILO over Boot Magic. The gist of things may have been that
PartitionMagic
>was nicer graphically, but that LILO just was more robust and worked
better.
I need something that is simple to explain. My parents are both well into
their 50s and need the easiest, most painfully obvious explanations when it
comes to using the computer. Example 1: push the big button to turn it on;
wait until the little light stops flashing (all is loaded), and then double
click on the "Outlook Express" icon; wait, and the e-mail will be there.
Example 2: if the machine is making noise (fan), then it is on.
>Well, one thing I'd go by is try to get one that has 2.2.x kernel. Or skip
>lunch a few days and buy the CheapBytes RedHat 6.0
Do you think dad gives me lunch money? No, no. He gives me juice in a
carton, and expects me to eat at home upon my return from school. (I'm used
to it, so it's cool, but I just wanted to make the point about how that
won't increase my wealth one bit.) Besides, a friend has convinced me to go
with SuSE 6.2. He hails it as THE distribution of Linux, and he's got me
hooked. I'll be installing it with his help within the next couple of weeks.
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TonyB wrote:
>
> >No. I bought PartitionMagic, but from the little reading I did, decided to
> go
> >with LILO over Boot Magic. The gist of things may have been that
> PartitionMagic
> >was nicer graphically, but that LILO just was more robust and worked
> better.
>
> I need something that is simple to explain. My parents are both well into
> their 50s and need the easiest, most painfully obvious explanations when it
> comes to using the computer. Example 1: push the big button to turn it on;
> wait until the little light stops flashing (all is loaded), and then double
> click on the "Outlook Express" icon; wait, and the e-mail will be there.
> Example 2: if the machine is making noise (fan), then it is on.
>
I've been using LILO form the beginning and it never failed for me. You
can configure it in a way, that it boot WIN98 for your parents without
any input by them, LINUX if you type the command for it. It's easy and
doesn't interfere with their use. And knowin LINUX/UN*X is a clear
advantage for your possible later studies.
Marc
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Marc Schimmler
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>I've been using LILO form the beginning and it never failed for me. You
>can configure it in a way, that it boot WIN98 for your parents without
>any input by them, LINUX if you type the command for it. It's easy and
>doesn't interfere with their use. And knowin LINUX/UN*X is a clear
>advantage for your possible later studies.
Really? Interesting. I didn't know it would help my schooling. Actually, I
want to get into it to avoid piracy as much as possible, and also because it
is growning in popularity and is more stable than Windows (right?).
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TonyB wrote:
>
> >I've been using LILO form the beginning and it never failed for me. You
> >can configure it in a way, that it boot WIN98 for your parents without
> >any input by them, LINUX if you type the command for it. It's easy and
> >doesn't interfere with their use. And knowin LINUX/UN*X is a clear
> >advantage for your possible later studies.
>
> Really? Interesting. I didn't know it would help my schooling. Actually, I
> want to get into it to avoid piracy as much as possible, and also because it
> is growning in popularity and is more stable than Windows (right?).
It's a good platform for programming. I think SuSE 6.2 is sipped with 6
CD's full with mostly free software and a few demos. It's fine for
networking and network security. One of the best (if not the best)
servers for windows is samba. One of the best web servers is apache. You
can use your computer to learn skills about networking and programming.
A lot of electronic books comes with it and the whole internet is a
resource for new code and information. This is also true for windows
users but for the linux community it's a kind pillar they rest on. Linux
*is* stable. And the best thing about it ... it's free. If somethings
really bugs you and if you know how to program it is possible to correct
it. And one really nice thing about linux is that your computer won't
get that fast old than it does under windows. I still use my Pentium 90
with 48 MB RAM and I can still develop and run programs with an
acceptable speed.
And if I need to use WIN95 (yes that happens ... at least for sPatch),
well I reboot my machine and run it under WIN95.
Enough of shameless propaganda, just try it yourself!
Marc
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Just a note of caution on using Partition Magic. My old machine had W95 on 4
partitions
on a 2.2Gb disk and I wanted to put SuSE Linux on it so I bought PM 4.0
I put all my W95 stuff in two partions, removed the empty partitions using PM and
attempted to redistribute the disk memory over the two remaining partitions.
Result:- I now have no W95, bad, bad PM has been put back in its box and has to live
in
the dark under my table in disgrace and I have a happy SuSE Linux sitting in a single
2.2Gb partition :-)
So it's a dedicated Linux machine after all.
David
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