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Am 05.03.2015 um 15:30 schrieb Stephen:
> In the Elite forums. Most of the people who have bought the DK1/2 rave
> about it. And say that they would not go back to using a flat screen
> even though the resolution is noway near as good.
I partially disagree on that one: Occasionally I want to marvel at sharp
clear stars, and then it's necessarily back th the flat screen for a change.
But give the DK2 away? No way! (Well, not before I get hold of the
consumer edition, that is ;))
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> Could that be the convergence setting?
> Something I found when googling. (Corrected for proper spelling.)
Yes, I probably need to spend more time and have a play about with the
settings.
> Compared to the cost of 3 monitors the rift is cheap
I picked up 2 of my 3 monitors for £25 each on ebay :-) In all honesty
it was best £50 I ever spent in terms of adding to the realism,
immersion and spatial awareness in games.
> and you could
> always sell it on, in ebay if it did not suit.
> Question: Would the monitors need to be matched?
Mine are 22" Samsungs with the same resolution, but they are all
different models, it's just whatever came up on ebay locally at the time.
> In the Elite forums. Most of the people who have bought the DK1/2 rave
> about it. And say that they would not go back to using a flat screen
> even though the resolution is noway near as good.
Indeed, most in the iRacing forums rave about it too, but there are a
not-insignificant number of people who went back to using screens. There
are several reasons, not being able to read the on-screen text clearly
enough (without making it take up 1/3 screen), not being able to make
out small details in the distance as well (especially in mirrors), and
not being able to see the real world (eg to press buttons or type).
Personally I don't see those as much of a problem though, not if you are
able to look over your shoulder and see your opponent alongside you :-)
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On 05/03/2015 15:02, clipka wrote:
> Am 05.03.2015 um 15:30 schrieb Stephen:
>
>> In the Elite forums. Most of the people who have bought the DK1/2 rave
>> about it. And say that they would not go back to using a flat screen
>> even though the resolution is noway near as good.
>
> I partially disagree on that one: Occasionally I want to marvel at sharp
> clear stars, and then it's necessarily back th the flat screen for a
> change.
>
But you are not whinging or asking for a refund. So you are not a true
Elitist. <g>
> But give the DK2 away? No way! (Well, not before I get hold of the
> consumer edition, that is ;))
>
The crumbs from your table, Mrs. Dives?
--
Regards
Stephen
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On 05/03/2015 15:36, scott wrote:
>> Could that be the convergence setting?
>> Something I found when googling. (Corrected for proper spelling.)
>
> Yes, I probably need to spend more time and have a play about with the
> settings.
>
I was playing with mine today. The Nvidia card (GTX 970) has an inbuilt
3D laser sight and it seems to change its depth depending on what it is
pointed at. The further away the target is the deeper into the screen it is.
>> Compared to the cost of 3 monitors the rift is cheap
>
Wait a bit and you will be able to pick up a DK2 cheep.
Listings for DK1
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_fromfsb=0&_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=oculus+rift+dk1&_sop=2
There is one on there for a tenner.
> I picked up 2 of my 3 monitors for £25 each on ebay :-) In all honesty
> it was best £50 I ever spent in terms of adding to the realism,
> immersion and spatial awareness in games.
>
That is a good bargain.
>> and you could
>> always sell it on, in ebay if it did not suit.
>> Question: Would the monitors need to be matched?
>
> Mine are 22" Samsungs with the same resolution, but they are all
> different models, it's just whatever came up on ebay locally at the time.
>
Matched for size and manufacturer. :-D
>> In the Elite forums. Most of the people who have bought the DK1/2 rave
>> about it. And say that they would not go back to using a flat screen
>> even though the resolution is noway near as good.
>
> Indeed, most in the iRacing forums rave about it too, but there are a
> not-insignificant number of people who went back to using screens. There
> are several reasons, not being able to read the on-screen text clearly
> enough (without making it take up 1/3 screen), not being able to make
> out small details in the distance as well (especially in mirrors), and
> not being able to see the real world (eg to press buttons or type).
> Personally I don't see those as much of a problem though, not if you are
> able to look over your shoulder and see your opponent alongside you :-)
>
I may have mentioned that a couple of years ago I did a contract at
Mercedes HPP. I never noticed a keyboard in any of the F1 cars ;-)
I've been trying to get VoiceAttack to work but M$ voice recognition is
racist and says it doesn't recognise Glaswegians. "Glass them" does not
deploy the hardpoints the way it should. :-)
--
Regards
Stephen
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> I was playing with mine today. The Nvidia card (GTX 970) has an inbuilt
> 3D laser sight and it seems to change its depth depending on what it is
> pointed at. The further away the target is the deeper into the screen it
> is.
I was thinking of the 970 as a good upgrade for me (650 currently), my
PSU might disagree though. Gigabyte do one with 3x displayports which
would work if I ever upgraded to 3x gsync monitors. I wonder how much
GPU umph the rift needs compared to monitors?
> Wait a bit and you will be able to pick up a DK2 cheep.
That's a good idea.
> Matched for size and manufacturer. :-D
The bezels are annoyingly different though (one has a big thick
transparent plastic bit around it), I was thinking I might take them off
somehow, but again one of them doesn't have VESA mounts on the back so
it would be a bit of a project. IIRC for the nVidia surround to work
they need to be the same resolution and refresh rate, but you can use a
program called softth if you want to use mismatched monitors.
> I may have mentioned that a couple of years ago I did a contract at
> Mercedes HPP. I never noticed a keyboard in any of the F1 cars ;-)
Yes that it pretty much how the flame wars start on the iRacing forums.
> I've been trying to get VoiceAttack to work but M$ voice recognition is
> racist and says it doesn't recognise Glaswegians. "Glass them" does not
> deploy the hardpoints the way it should. :-)
:-) The best voice recognition I've seen is on my phone, it seems like
it is possible to use the Google speech-to-text API but doesn't look
officially supported and you need to hack about with API keys etc.
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James Holsenback <nom### [at] none com> wrote:
> On 03/02/2015 02:06 PM, Stephen wrote:
> > I can???t find the original post but this might be of interest.
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-31049807
> http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/1/8127445/htc-vive-valve-vr-headset
> the assimilation has already begun
I wish that Oculus Rift would finally be published...
Btw, 90 FPS seems like a rather odd choice.
With many modern games (assuming they will start supporting the headset)
it may be difficult to achieve that framerate even for a quite modern PC.
Most likely the framerate will drop to 45 FPS... which is admittedly a
bit better than 30 FPS (which is so prevalent on consoles), but perhaps
still not as good as your good old 60 FPS.
Unless they implement g-sync in the headset, which would be great.
--
- Warp
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scott <sco### [at] scottcom> wrote:
> There
> are several reasons, not being able to read the on-screen text clearly
> enough (without making it take up 1/3 screen)
Are we talking about the development kit 2 here? You mean that even
with 1080 scanlines the details are still too small for the resolution?
(Well, I suppose the OR can't show the exact same detail than a monitor
would, when played normally, the "camera" will have an angle of 80-90
degrees, while with the OR it's probably closer to 180 degrees, which
means that there's effectively less pixels for the same area of the
view...)
--
- Warp
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On 06/03/2015 09:14, scott wrote:
>
> I was thinking of the 970 as a good upgrade for me (650 currently), my
> PSU might disagree though. Gigabyte do one with 3x displayports which
> would work if I ever upgraded to 3x gsync monitors. I wonder how much
> GPU umph the rift needs compared to monitors?
>
I've heard 75 fps for the Rift. On elite I can get 144 fps with my 970
and more when I switch off vSync. It does drop in busy scenes but that
may be due more to Elite.
FurMark V1.14.1.4 reports an average of 60 fps at 1920x1080 with no AA
and 106% power 80 Deg C 99% GPU usage. It is bog standard, not over clocked.
>
>> I may have mentioned that a couple of years ago I did a contract at
>> Mercedes HPP. I never noticed a keyboard in any of the F1 cars ;-)
>
> Yes that it pretty much how the flame wars start on the iRacing forums.
>
Quite predictable. :-)
There were F1 cars all over the place. The canteen had two racing up the
walls and there were a couple hanging from the ceiling in reception.
It surprised me to see that the cars have leg straps. But on reflection
it makes sense. +1 Jackie Stewart.
>
> :-) The best voice recognition I've seen is on my phone, it seems like
> it is possible to use the Google speech-to-text API but doesn't look
> officially supported and you need to hack about with API keys etc.
>
I have my phone's task manager kill it whenever it appears. I do not
want my phone to shout that it could not understand what I said in
meetings, randomly.
I had another go at training the M$ free one today after setting up the
h/set mic. I gave up after an hour when I realise I was screaming
profanities at it.
I feel as if it is misunderstanding me deliberately out of badness.
--
Regards
Stephen
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Am 06.03.2015 um 20:18 schrieb Stephen:
> I had another go at training the M$ free one today after setting up the
> h/set mic. I gave up after an hour when I realise I was screaming
> profanities at it.
> I feel as if it is misunderstanding me deliberately out of badness.
I thought you'd know better already...
http://youtu.be/sAz_UvnUeuU?t=2m33s
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On 06/03/2015 21:18, clipka wrote:
> Am 06.03.2015 um 20:18 schrieb Stephen:
>
>> I had another go at training the M$ free one today after setting up the
>> h/set mic. I gave up after an hour when I realise I was screaming
>> profanities at it.
>> I feel as if it is misunderstanding me deliberately out of badness.
>
> I thought you'd know better already...
> http://youtu.be/sAz_UvnUeuU?t=2m33s
>
A' right! Pall. Hou's it gaun?
Hae ye tried the Wings Beta?
I posted that very same clip on the Elite forum. I got rep from a Saff
Londoner.
But it is true. I've worked in computing since the first abacus broke
and someone was needed to fix it. The only way to fix the damn things is
to threaten to kick their CPU in.
Trust me man!
--
Regards
Stephen
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