 |
|
|
|
|
|
| |
| |
|
|
|
|
| |
| |
|
|
It is a Win8 machine.
I hate Win8
Does anyone know of a "how to do things in Win8 that was easy in Win7",
tutorial?
--
Regards
Stephen
I solemnly promise to kick the next angle, I see.
Post a reply to this message
|
|
| |
| |
|
|
|
|
| |
| |
|
|
On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 15:35:41 +0100, Stephen wrote:
> It is a Win8 machine.
>
> I hate Win8
>
> Does anyone know of a "how to do things in Win8 that was easy in Win7",
> tutorial?
fdisk
Install openSUSE. ;)
...
On a more serious note...
Is it 8.0 or 8.1? 8.1 is /supposed/ to be better (I haven't looked at
8.1 myself yet). Also, ISTR that Microsoft may have allowed Win8
customers to install Win7 instead if they wanted, though I might be
remembering that incorrectly.
Jim
--
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw
Post a reply to this message
|
|
| |
| |
|
|
|
|
| |
| |
|
|
On 06/04/2014 16:16, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 15:35:41 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>
>> It is a Win8 machine.
>>
>> I hate Win8
>>
>> Does anyone know of a "how to do things in Win8 that was easy in Win7",
>> tutorial?
>
> fdisk
>
The thought has crossed my mind.
> Install openSUSE. ;)
>
I'm having enough trouble with a real OS. I don't want one that has more
colours than a rainbow pub. Or changes more often than I change my
underwear. ;-)
> ....
>
> On a more serious note...
>
^_^
> Is it 8.0 or 8.1?
8.1
> 8.1 is /supposed/ to be better (I haven't looked at
> 8.1 myself yet).
Don't bother.
Also, ISTR that Microsoft may have allowed Win8
> customers to install Win7 instead if they wanted, though I might be
> remembering that incorrectly.
>
If that is true, it is an option. Although it does have some good
points. Task manager is better and.. (I'll get back to you on the rest.)
It took me forever (at least an hour to download a citrix plugin for ie
11 as... I don't know why "as". Somehow it was not happy using my
hotmail address to verify who I was. Even though it is 15 years old. I
have now lost count of my emails and logons). The machine is a bit
faster than my old one.
Benchmarks:
Old m/c
8 CPU
00:9:01
CPU time used: kernel 0.95 seconds, user 3893.77 seconds, total 3894.72
seconds.
Elapsed time 541.28 seconds, CPU vs elapsed time ratio 7.20.
Render averaged 484.31 PPS (67.31 PPS CPU time) over 262144 pixels using
8 thread(s).
New one:
1CPU
00:15:10
CPU time used: kernel 0.09 seconds, user 909.73 seconds, total 909.83
seconds.
Elapsed time 910.65 seconds.
Render averaged 287.87 PPS (288.12 PPS CPU time) over 262144 pixels
using 8 thread(s).
8 CPU
00:3:39
CPU time used: kernel 0.25 seconds, user 1716.91 seconds, total 1717.16
seconds.
Elapsed time 219.04 seconds, CPU vs elapsed time ratio 7.84.
Render averaged 1196.81 PPS (152.66 PPS CPU time) over 262144 pixels
using 8 thread(s).
I don't quite understand the figures though.
I am glad that I know a few k/board shortcuts or I would not be able to
do anything.
Enough moaning. I don't want to be an old fuddy duddy. Even though I am.
--
Regards
Stephen
I solemnly promise to kick the next angle, I see.
Post a reply to this message
|
|
| |
| |
|
|
|
|
| |
| |
|
|
On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 21:27:49 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>>> Does anyone know of a "how to do things in Win8 that was easy in
>>> Win7",
>>> tutorial?
>>
>> fdisk
>>
>>
> The thought has crossed my mind.
:)
>> Install openSUSE. ;)
>>
>>
> I'm having enough trouble with a real OS. I don't want one that has more
> colours than a rainbow pub. Or changes more often than I change my
> underwear. ;-)
13.1 is a long term support release, so it won't need to be updated after
the end of the regular 18-month support cycle (other than being pointed
at the "Evergreen" repositories that make it an LTS release).
>> On a more serious note...
>>
>>
> ^_^
I thought you'd like that. :)
>> 8.1 is /supposed/ to be better (I haven't looked at 8.1 myself yet).
>
> Don't bother.
That bad, huh?
> Also, ISTR that Microsoft may have allowed Win8
>> customers to install Win7 instead if they wanted, though I might be
>> remembering that incorrectly.
>>
> If that is true, it is an option. Although it does have some good
> points. Task manager is better and.. (I'll get back to you on the rest.)
LOL
> It took me forever (at least an hour to download a citrix plugin for ie
> 11 as... I don't know why "as". Somehow it was not happy using my
> hotmail address to verify who I was. Even though it is 15 years old. I
> have now lost count of my emails and logons). The machine is a bit
> faster than my old one.
> Benchmarks:
>
> Old m/c
>
> 8 CPU 00:9:01
>
> CPU time used: kernel 0.95 seconds, user 3893.77 seconds, total 3894.72
> seconds.
> Elapsed time 541.28 seconds, CPU vs elapsed time ratio 7.20.
> Render averaged 484.31 PPS (67.31 PPS CPU time) over 262144 pixels using
> 8 thread(s).
>
> New one:
>
> 1CPU 00:15:10 CPU time used: kernel 0.09 seconds, user 909.73 seconds,
> total 909.83 seconds.
> Elapsed time 910.65 seconds.
> Render averaged 287.87 PPS (288.12 PPS CPU time) over 262144 pixels
> using 8 thread(s).
>
> 8 CPU 00:3:39 CPU time used: kernel 0.25 seconds, user 1716.91 seconds,
> total 1717.16 seconds.
> Elapsed time 219.04 seconds, CPU vs elapsed time ratio 7.84.
> Render averaged 1196.81 PPS (152.66 PPS CPU time) over 262144 pixels
> using 8 thread(s).
>
> I don't quite understand the figures though.
>
> I am glad that I know a few k/board shortcuts or I would not be able to
> do anything.
>
> Enough moaning. I don't want to be an old fuddy duddy. Even though I am.
I know the feeling. Not quite as fuddy or duddy, (you can have the crown
for fuddiness and for duddiness for now). I'm starting a new contract
that runs through July 1 tomorrow, and the client is sending me a laptop
- could be Windows, could be a Mac. I can work with either (the company
uses Macs almost exclusively), but I definitely prefer running Linux on
my systems.
Jim
--
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw
Post a reply to this message
|
|
| |
| |
|
|
|
|
| |
| |
|
|
On 04/06/2014 10:35 AM, Stephen wrote:
> It is a Win8 machine.
you have my sympathies
Post a reply to this message
|
|
| |
| |
|
|
|
|
| |
| |
|
|
On 07/04/2014 5:32 PM, James Holsenback wrote:
> On 04/06/2014 10:35 AM, Stephen wrote:
>> It is a Win8 machine.
>
> you have my sympathies
>
After speaking to our IT department and with a few Quid pro quo. I may
have a solution. ;-)
--
Regards
Stephen
I solemnly promise to kick the next angle, I see.
Post a reply to this message
|
|
| |
| |
|
|
|
|
| |
| |
|
|
On 07/04/2014 2:12 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> 13.1 is a long term support release, so it won't need to be updated after
> the end of the regular 18-month support cycle (other than being pointed
> at the "Evergreen" repositories that make it an LTS release).
>
Run that by me again. In English. :-P
>> >Don't bother.
> That bad, huh?
>
No, but if you have the option...
I don't want my PC/Laptop to pretend it is an android device.
>> >Enough moaning. I don't want to be an old fuddy duddy. Even though I am.
> I know the feeling. Not quite as fuddy or duddy, (you can have the crown
> for fuddiness and for duddiness for now).
I don't mind which castle I'm king of. :-)
Actually, I play on the fact that I am old. That and the stereotypical
Jock (means Scot for those other Americans) is a born enjineer. ;-)
Hoots mon! Ye daena ken whit is wis like when 9600 baud wis state o' the
art. ;-)
> I'm starting a new contract
> that runs through July 1 tomorrow,
Congrats.
> and the client is sending me a laptop
> - could be Windows, could be a Mac. I can work with either (the company
> uses Macs almost exclusively), but I definitely prefer running Linux on
> my systems.
The last time I used or repaired a Mac was 20 years ago.
A bit longer for Unix.
--
Regards
Stephen
I solemnly promise to kick the next angle, I see.
Post a reply to this message
|
|
| |
| |
|
|
|
|
| |
| |
|
|
>>> >Don't bother.
>> That bad, huh?
>>
>
> No, but if you have the option...
>
> I don't want my PC/Laptop to pretend it is an android device.
This appears to be the way everything is heading, though.
When we updated all our stuff to OpenSUSE 12.2, we found that it comes
with GNOME 3, which is basically just like GNOME 2, except designed to
only work on a Tablet. So that means only one window visible at once
(unless you go out of your way to force it to not do that for each
window you open), lots of scrolly menus, and half the buttons missing.
It's astonishing how many of the plugins for GNOME 3 are there to add
back all the features they took out. Stuff like a minimise button on the
windows, a list of open windows (without having to open a context menu
to see it), program launch icons on the main screen (again, without
having to open a context menu to get at them), and so on.
Of course, any time anyone changes anything, half the userbase wants it
back the way it was. But no, the astonishing thing is the number of
plugins that have been written given that NOT ONE SINGLE SHRED OF
DOCUMENTATION exists for how to do this. (Did I mention that the entire
shell is now written in JavaScript, and a "plugin" is nothing other than
JavaScript for live-patching the running shell??)
I suppose it's inevitable; the mobile device market is larger than the
dekstop market can ever hope to be. It is thus for more profitable. But
as a computer expert who wants to actually, you know, USE A COMPUTER
(and not just surf Facebook), I think all this terribly annoying...
Post a reply to this message
|
|
| |
| |
|
|
|
|
| |
| |
|
|
Got one these days for my daughter as well, a laptop. Most probably, the last
desktop computing device I'm buying. I have consoles for games and do pretty
much everything else on my android phone - of course, at work I still use a
handy "mainframe".
I long for the day when you just get home, connect it to a TV set and bluetooth
input and is ready for "serious work". still not quite there, either in the
software landscape or ease for connection (still kinda clunky, with wires and
such)
Post a reply to this message
|
|
| |
| |
|
|
|
|
| |
| |
|
|
On 04/07/2014 04:53 PM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>>>> >Don't bother.
>>> That bad, huh?
>>>
>>
>> No, but if you have the option...
>>
>> I don't want my PC/Laptop to pretend it is an android device.
>
> This appears to be the way everything is heading, though.
>
> When we updated all our stuff to OpenSUSE 12.2, we found that it comes
> with GNOME 3, which is basically just like GNOME 2, except designed to
> only work on a Tablet. So that means only one window visible at once
> (unless you go out of your way to force it to not do that for each
> window you open), lots of scrolly menus, and half the buttons missing.
>
> It's astonishing how many of the plugins for GNOME 3 are there to add
> back all the features they took out. Stuff like a minimise button on the
> windows, a list of open windows (without having to open a context menu
> to see it), program launch icons on the main screen (again, without
> having to open a context menu to get at them), and so on.
>
> Of course, any time anyone changes anything, half the userbase wants it
> back the way it was. But no, the astonishing thing is the number of
> plugins that have been written given that NOT ONE SINGLE SHRED OF
> DOCUMENTATION exists for how to do this. (Did I mention that the entire
> shell is now written in JavaScript, and a "plugin" is nothing other than
> JavaScript for live-patching the running shell??)
>
> I suppose it's inevitable; the mobile device market is larger than the
> dekstop market can ever hope to be. It is thus for more profitable. But
> as a computer expert who wants to actually, you know, USE A COMPUTER
> (and not just surf Facebook), I think all this terribly annoying...
have you tired KDE instead?
Post a reply to this message
|
|
| |
| |
|
|
|
|
| |
|
|
