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On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 21:09:27 +0000, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> On 15/02/2012 20:02, Tim Cook wrote:
>> On 2012-02-15 05:42, Invisible wrote:
>>> I used to be 80 Kg.
>>
>> ...but then I took an arrow in my knee.
>
> What the hell does that even *mean*?!
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-took-an-arrow-in-the-knee
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>>> ...but then I took an arrow in my knee.
>>
>> What the hell does that even *mean*?!
>
> http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-took-an-arrow-in-the-knee
Suddenly it makes /so much/ more sense...
http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20111209
Also: Due to a brain malfunction, every time I see "Skyrim" I read it as
"scrim". (Similarly, normally => tourmaline.)
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On 2/14/2012 10:20 AM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> First I drove my car to the garage, and then I walked home. Apparently
> that's about 1.25 miles. (According to the wibbly wobbly line I drew in
> Google Earth anyway.) Then I wanted to go visit a friend, but she said
> she was going out shortly. I attempted to jog over there - yeah, that
> didn't happen. I /was/ fairly wet by the time I arrived though (bearing
> Apparently the trip is about 2.75 miles each way.
>
> My legs hurt now. To be fair, I think it was probably the jogging that
> did that. The impact of hitting the ground did feel fairly extreme.
> (Sure, I jump around all the time at dance class, but that's on a sprung
> dance floor, not a concrete footpath.) So yeah, I may have slightly
> strained the tendons. I'm sure it'll stop hurting in a while.
>
That sounds reasonable from what you describe your normal activity to
be. You just used a lot of muscle groups in ways that you don't
normally use them.
Expect to be sore and in some pain if you have not been jogging and then
you try to do 5 miles. Do pay attention to what may just be muscle
soreness and what may be actual injury forming.
But the best part is that if you take a couple of days off from running
and then do it again you will eventually feel better and not be in so
much pain.
A good pair of running shoes can help lessen the impact and pain. If
you want to run regularly then you should reserve your running shoes for
just that - running and not wear them for just going out.
Also, running on concrete can be pretty hard on the body - running on
asphalt can make a big difference.
Tom
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Orchid Win7 v1 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
Walking only burns a few hundred calories an hour. You need to burn (and not
replace) about 3500 calories (more than a days worth) to lose one pound of fat.
To make matters worse, you can't do any of this too quickly or your body will
rebel against you. Walking won't increase your bmr. Eat a piece of pie and all
of your suffering will have been for nothing.
Get in shape as I described in the fitness thread. Learn about tabata. Do
push-ups. Start counting calories.
ALSO:
Wow! Things are different over there. I weight over 90 kg, and I'm considered
trim in Texas.
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Shay <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> Walking only burns a few hundred calories an hour. You need to burn (and not
> replace) about 3500 calories (more than a days worth) to lose one pound of fat.
> To make matters worse, you can't do any of this too quickly or your body will
> rebel against you. Walking won't increase your bmr. Eat a piece of pie and all
> of your suffering will have been for nothing.
Leisure walking might not, but vigorous walking certainly will. It's
almost as efficient as jogging, but much more suitable for an unfit
person.
--
- Warp
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On 25/02/2012 16:03, Shay wrote:
> Orchid Win7 v1<voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>
> Walking only burns a few hundred calories an hour. You need to burn (and not
> replace) about 3500 calories (more than a days worth) to lose one pound of fat.
> To make matters worse, you can't do any of this too quickly or your body will
> rebel against you. Walking won't increase your bmr. Eat a piece of pie and all
> of your suffering will have been for nothing.
>
> Get in shape as I described in the fitness thread. Learn about tabata. Do
> push-ups. Start counting calories.
Yeah, I wasn't actually attempting to lose weight. I just didn't have a
car and needed to go places. I'm actually surprised I managed it without
dying, to be honest.
As I say, at school we went on a 5 mile walk, and it took about 8 hours.
That gives an average walking speed of about just over 1 MPH. At that
speed, walking 4 miles should have taken almost 4 hours...
> ALSO:
>
> Wow! Things are different over there. I weight over 90 kg, and I'm considered
> trim in Texas.
I used to be 80 Kg. Now I'm 90. :-{ Isn't that the best part about old
age? Now all I have to look forward to in life is progressively getting
worse...
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On 2/25/2012 9:03 AM, Shay wrote:
> Orchid Win7 v1<voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>
> Walking only burns a few hundred calories an hour. You need to burn (and not
> replace) about 3500 calories (more than a days worth) to lose one pound of fat.
> To make matters worse, you can't do any of this too quickly or your body will
> rebel against you. Walking won't increase your bmr. Eat a piece of pie and all
> of your suffering will have been for nothing.
>
Uh, worse news. Turns out, when you do burn them, your body responds by
converting you "speed" muscle to "strength" muscle, which is roughly 10%
more efficient, so to "keep burning" those 3500 calories, you have to
drastically increase how much time, and work, you apply to doing so, to
keep off the original loss. In effect, once you have it, its harder to
keep it off again, than if you never had it.
Also. A thing about BMI. The man that invented it stated, clearly, "This
is not intended to be a metric of health." It became such via comity,
not via science. In reality, it cannot tell you if you are healthy, your
organs are functioning, or you will end up suffering diseases, as a
result of your weight. Its nonsense, but it is nonsense that can be used
to sell you expensive "fixes" for the same nonsense, like new diet pills.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlXxoG98urc&list=UUJm5yR1KFcysl_0I3x-iReg&index=5&feature=plcp
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On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 20:11:18 -0700, Patrick Elliott wrote:
> Also. A thing about BMI.
Absolutely! Andrew should forget about his BMI and worry about his BMR.
Walking is good exercise. So are the bike riding, running, weight
lifting, hammer swinging, ladder climbing, kettle bell work, and
calisthenics that I do. But I wouldn't recommend any of these to Andrew
because none are the shortest path to what he wants.
-Shay
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On 2/27/2012 8:17 AM, Shay wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 20:11:18 -0700, Patrick Elliott wrote:
>
>> Also. A thing about BMI.
>
> Absolutely! Andrew should forget about his BMI and worry about his BMR.
> Walking is good exercise. So are the bike riding, running, weight
> lifting, hammer swinging, ladder climbing, kettle bell work, and
> calisthenics that I do. But I wouldn't recommend any of these to Andrew
> because none are the shortest path to what he wants.
>
> -Shay
Interesting note. A study done a while back showed that merely knowing
how much you burned, somehow, may result in increased loss. The study
was conducted with two groups working basically identical jobs, under
basically identical conditions, where the only apparent difference was
that one group had a chart to consult, telling them how much they
burned, for every single thing they did during the day, while the other
didn't.
Still.. I seem to remember that they was someone looking into trying
to.. retrain their body for "fast" action, like sprinting. One major
improvement in BMR would literally be to trigger such a change, since if
you could get your muscles to re-organize for speed, it would drop their
efficiency 10%+, and thus burn that much more energy, during the same
duration of exercise. Not sure if this is possible though.
Unfortunately, pretty much *all* types of exercise used to drop weight
does the exact opposite, triggering an "increase" in efficiency, and
making it harder to lose/keep off the weight.
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On 28/02/2012 09:43 AM, Patrick Elliott wrote:
> Interesting note. A study done a while back showed that merely knowing
> how much you burned, somehow, may result in increased loss.
Sounds like something similar to the placebo effect. (Note: The placebo
effect is /not/ imaginary. It is real. It can be measured.) It's no
secret that both happiness and stress release a whole host of hormones
which make various organs function differently - so it's hardly
implausible that knowing how well your exercise is going could affect
how well your exercise goes.
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