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Doctor John wrote:
> right now M$ is offering vin de
> pays at champagne prices (plus FUD tax) and the man in the street is
> buying because he's been told (by M$) that the vintage wine that my lot
> is selling is worthless because you need to be a master sommelier just
> to drink it and it can't be that good anyway since it doesn't cost as
> much as theirs.
Agreed. Annoying, isn't it?
> Finally, back to the majority point - I run and recommend Linux because
> 80% of the world's supercomputers run on it. The other 20% sure as hell
> don't use M$.
How many people use a supercomputer to read their email? ;-)
[Depending on your definition of "supercomputer". Compared to the
Commodore 64 that I started out with, the dual-core multi-GHz thing I
have at home probably *seems* like a damn supercomputer!]
The best software for running a supercomputer is *not* necessarily the
best software for running a desktop. I'm not saying Linux isn't good,
I'm saying this particular snippet of logic is flawed.
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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Gilles Tran wrote:
> Hey, shouldn't your other nickname be Orchid Vista SP1 now, rather than
> Orchid XP V8 ;)
> And when did you get patched anyway?
The more observant amoung you will notice that it *was* v7 until a few
days ago.
What can I say? I tried to install a piece of software so large it comes
on 12 DVDs. It didn't fit. So I bought a new HD and reinstalled everything.
Did you ever hear "Microsoft Jinglebells"?
Nine tenths of a gig,
Biggest ever seen,
GOD this program's big,
MS Word fifteen.
Comes on TEN CDs!
And requires DANM!
Word is fine but GEES,
SIXTY MEGS OF RAM?!
Oh Microsoft, Microsoft, joker all the way,
I've sat here installing Word since breakfast yesterday!
Oh Microsoft, Microsoft, moderation PLEASE!
In case you hadn't noticed...
...FOUR GIG DRIVES DON'T GROW ON TREES!
Seems kinda quaint now, doesn't it? 60 MB of RAM? Are you kidding? The
*cache* of my new harddrive is 32 MB! But you're right about 4 GB HDs:
they're pretty rare now. Unless they're solid-state.
But even M$ hasn't [yet] produced a product that really does come on 12
DVDs...
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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Invisible <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
> Now look at Vista. I'm anticipating the same story all over again. Right
> now, you'd be insane to use Vista. It's just too flaky, and it's too
> expensive to construct a machine that's sufficiently high-end to run it
> even moderately well. Maybe in another 10 years it'll be OK...
I think this is a good article about the subject:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/business/09digi.html?_r=2&pagewanted=all&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
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- Warp
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Invisible wrote:
> Doctor John wrote:
>
>> right now M$ is offering vin de
>> pays at champagne prices (plus FUD tax) and the man in the street is
>> buying because he's been told (by M$) that the vintage wine that my lot
>> is selling is worthless because you need to be a master sommelier just
>> to drink it and it can't be that good anyway since it doesn't cost as
>> much as theirs.
>
> Agreed. Annoying, isn't it?
>
>> Finally, back to the majority point - I run and recommend Linux because
>> 80% of the world's supercomputers run on it. The other 20% sure as hell
>> don't use M$.
>
> How many people use a supercomputer to read their email? ;-)
I was speaking ironically. Shoulda used <irony> tags. ;-)
The reason I use and recommend Linux is because it's stable, secure and
open source.
John
--
I will be brief but not nearly so brief as Salvador Dali, who gave the
world's shortest speech. He said, "I will be so brief I am already
finished," then he sat down.
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Invisible wrote:
> Mike Raiford wrote:
>
>> The newer Word format is supposedly more open. It's an XML-based
>> format, IIRC. I dunno what sort of proprietary stuff they've crammed
>> into it, though.
>
> How about deliberately defining it in such a way that only Word itself
> can really "understand" what its content means?
>
> XML is no magic bullet for instant portability...
>
Yup. Our company makes lots of XML files that only our company's
products intend to understand. Same for competitors and other vendors,
too. Gets real fun when you try to import someone else's XML. Yeah, it
parses perfectly, but you have no clue what the semantics of the file
should be.
> Now look at Vista. I'm anticipating the same story all over again. Right
> now, you'd be insane to use Vista. It's just too flaky, and it's too
> expensive to construct a machine that's sufficiently high-end to run it
> even moderately well. Maybe in another 10 years it'll be OK...
And yet, I run Vista (Home Premium, even!) on a rather moderate machine.
2.6 P4, 200GB harddrive, and 2.5G ram. It runs rather smoothly,
actually. I didn't notice any considerable performance drop from WinXP
to Vista.
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>> How many people use a supercomputer to read their email? ;-)
>
> I was speaking ironically. Shoulda used <irony> tags. ;-)
> The reason I use and recommend Linux is because it's stable, secure and
> open source.
Just last night, one of my clanmates said to me "Invisible, if you hate
Microsoft so much, why do you use their products?"
I thought that was especially amusing, given that at that exact moment
both of us were playing CSS - a game which exists only on the Windoze
platform... [Although amusingly the game *server* runs on Linux too.
Good luck configuring it...]
I'd use Linux too if I could. But it's just too difficult. And most of
the software I want to use doesn't exist for Linux. And that is why most
people end up being stuck with Windoze; it's where all the software is.
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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>> XML is no magic bullet for instant portability...
>
> Yup. Our company makes lots of XML files that only our company's
> products intend to understand. Same for competitors and other vendors,
> too. Gets real fun when you try to import someone else's XML. Yeah, it
> parses perfectly, but you have no clue what the semantics of the file
> should be.
Depending on how well the schema is designed, it might be quite easy to
comprehend.
Or not...
From what little I know, the M$ XML format uses things like bitmaps and
so forth to represent things. [Because that's how their codebase worked
before they ported it to XML, and it's simpler to leave it that way than
use a truly "open" arrangement like, say, using attributes or tags or
something...]
>> Now look at Vista. I'm anticipating the same story all over again.
>> Right now, you'd be insane to use Vista. It's just too flaky, and it's
>> too expensive to construct a machine that's sufficiently high-end to
>> run it even moderately well. Maybe in another 10 years it'll be OK...
>
> And yet, I run Vista (Home Premium, even!) on a rather moderate machine.
> 2.6 P4, 200GB harddrive, and 2.5G ram. It runs rather smoothly,
> actually. I didn't notice any considerable performance drop from WinXP
> to Vista.
In which universe is a machine with a 200 GB HD and more than 1 GB of
RAM considered "moderate"? That sounds pretty high-end to me...
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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Invisible wrote:
>
> I'd use Linux too if I could. But it's just too difficult.
This from the man who's writing his own logic prog lang
> the software I want to use doesn't exist for Linux. And that is why most
> people end up being stuck with Windoze; it's where all the software is.
>
Yup, have to admit I do have XP on a couple of machines purely for
Flight Sims, a couple of games and Daz3d, Bryce and Hexagon.
John
--
I will be brief but not nearly so brief as Salvador Dali, who gave the
world's shortest speech. He said, "I will be so brief I am already
finished," then he sat down.
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>> I'd use Linux too if I could. But it's just too difficult.
> This from the man who's writing his own logic prog lang
Hey, do *you* know how to make Linux recognise the fact that I just
plugged in a USB sound card and that sound should be routed through that
instead?
Similarly, do you know how to edit /etc/X11/Xconfig because you just
changed your video card and now X11 crashes on startup?
[The nice thing about SuSE's configuration program is that it will works
even if X11 isn't running...]
>> the software I want to use doesn't exist for Linux. And that is why most
>> people end up being stuck with Windoze; it's where all the software is.
>>
> Yup, have to admit I do have XP on a couple of machines purely for
> Flight Sims, a couple of games and Daz3d, Bryce and Hexagon.
This is also what really keeps me from trying a Mac. I'd basically have
to throw all my software away - and what's the point of that?
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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Invisible wrote:
>>> I'd use Linux too if I could. But it's just too difficult.
>
>> This from the man who's writing his own logic prog lang
>
> Hey, do *you* know how to make Linux recognise the fact that I just
> plugged in a USB sound card and that sound should be routed through that
> instead?
>
Never tried 'cos I've never needed to
> Similarly, do you know how to edit /etc/X11/Xconfig because you just
> changed your video card and now X11 crashes on startup?
>
<irony> Back when Queen Victoria was a lad</irony> that is the way we
all did it. If I've made any hardware changes I invariably boot into
runlevel 3 then startx; if all looks good fine else fire up vi and away
we go.
> [The nice thing about SuSE's configuration program is that it will works
> even if X11 isn't running...]
>
Haven't used a distro's config for a few years now. Call me a dinosaur
but at least if anything goes wrong I know what I did so I can reverse it.
John
--
I will be brief but not nearly so brief as Salvador Dali, who gave the
world's shortest speech. He said, "I will be so brief I am already
finished," then he sat down.
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