I suggest you use focal blur in your final scenes and animations; even just
a small blur in the horisont because it improves realism and beauty. And I
hope you will share your sky code before you write it over! They might not
be realistic for a desert when one thinks about it, but they are the best
procedural ones I've seen in POV that doesn't use media.

The ground ... is not sandy but rocky.. Obviously you're after a rocky
look.. I don't know how that looks in real life.. But sandy deserts are
pretty clean. No textures on the ground (except a tiny granite with specular
highlights). Just brown hills. No clouds.

Regards,
Hugo

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"Kevin Ellis" wrote:
> Coming along very nicely, the textures seem fine now,
> although a bit green, If they are to stay green then
> I suggest you add some green bushes or something to
> set the colour off.

Actually the whole image is a little washed out, so I've added some more
contrast, as seen in the small attached image. Maybe it looks less green
now?

> There doesn't seem to be any cloud shadows though
> which I would expect from that sky and lighting.

I'm not sure of this myself. The clouds do cast shadows, as I have to double
up the light source intensity when I activate the clouds, but yet I can't
see any shadows from the clouds, or if it's actually one big shadow, then I
can't see any hole in that shadow. Maybe the clouds are too big and too far
away, so that the shadows are huge.

> Also that ridge on the right could really do
> woth some radiosity or even just a fill light.

Radiosity is slow - probably too slow for an animation I think - but I'll
investigate the possibilities.

> Great work though, I'm sure Al will be quite happy
> there........ as long as he has some food and water
> I suppose.

Or a portal to get away... :)

> Any progress on the icy landscape?

Haven't started yet.

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"Hugo" wrote:
> I suggest you use focal blur in your final
> scenes and animations; even just a small blur
> in the horisont because it improves realism
> and beauty.

Focal blur is too slow. :(

> And I hope you will share your sky code before
> you write it over! They might not be realistic
> for a desert when one thinks about it, but they
> are the best procedural ones I've seen in POV
> that doesn't use media.

Really? I've seen very impressive clouds made of many stacked planes, but
the ones in this image were made of just 4 planes... Anyway, I'll put them
on my website sometime soon.

> The ground ... is not sandy but rocky.. Obviously
> you're after a rocky look..

Yes. Landscapes with "hills" like these ones usually are rocky, aren't they?
I've been looking at images from the web of Grand Canyon for inspiration.
Still not sure if it's actually a desert.

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I like the banding a lot better in this one, It might even looik better with
a 3rd color added for more variation, but I'm not sure if thats realsitic or
not, just a guess :) I liked the 2nd's normal the best but this one fits
better, maybe if you lowered its height or depth (whatever its called) it
might look like a better combination between  sand and rock. The sand in the
distance needs to look smoother I think too, maybe lowering the depth of the
normal would fix that? One thing that has beugged me about all 3 pics iss
the mountainthings in the middle. The ones on the sides look awsome but the
ones in the middle look TOO bumpy. Maybe its because I can see both light
AND shadow on the middle ones and it gives the bumps much more contrast
compared to the mountains on the sides. Perhaps moving the light source
would fix this or lowering the turbulence (correct term?) on the middle
ones. Still looks a LOT better than my few meager attempts at terrain. and
It's a big improvement!

Can't wait to see the next one!

Corey

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There doesn't appear to be any sedimentary buildup, which there should be. Still, you
have some great textures.

Grim

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"GrimDude" wrote:
> There doesn't appear to be any sedimentary buildup,
> which there should be.

I don't know what a sedimentary buildup looks like.

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"Corey Woodworth" wrote:
> I like the banding a lot better in this one, It
> might even looik better with a 3rd color added
> for more variation, but I'm not sure if thats
> realsitic or not, just a guess :)

I think it does occur in reality. But adding support for that would require
me to change the way my textures work, so I'm not sure about that. Maybe...

> I liked the 2nd's normal the best but this one fits
> better, maybe if you lowered its height or depth
> (whatever its called) it might look like a better
> combination between sand and rock.

It's not currently supposed to look like sand. Would there be sand in a
landscape like this? I'm in need of reference photos...

> One thing that has beugged me about all 3 pics is
> the mountainthings in the middle. The ones on the
> sides look awsome but the ones in the middle look
> TOO bumpy.

I'll see what I can do...

> Can't wait to see the next one!

Glad you like it. :)

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On Sun, 17 Mar 2002 12:15:17 +0100, "Rune"
<run### [at] mobilixnetdk> wrote:

> Cheater! ;)

And darn proud of it too! :)

And as of the vulture, look at "The Making of \"The Wet Bird\""


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"Peter Popov" wrote:
> > Cheater! ;)
>
> And darn proud of it too! :)
>
> And as of the vulture, look at
> "The Making of \"The Wet Bird\""

Oh I remember how it was done - you want me to be a cheater too!

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On Sun, 17 Mar 2002 00:59:02 +0100, "Rune" <run### [at] mobilixnetdk>
wrote:

>As the cracked look of the texture really was all wrong, I had to rework the
>textures again. This time I've gotten something that I think look a bit more
>right, but I'm still not sure about it.

I like the mountains better than those in take 2, but preferred the
previous floor texture.

The current one somehow looks too... rich. Like it is fertile soil, rather
than completely dried out.

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