Ken wrote:

> Getting faster means learning more. As you learn more your scenes will
> become more complex. As your scenes become more complex it will take
> longer to develop and render them. Sorry but you just can't win :)

Until you turn into Gilles...

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Metal Handrails - goodpoint, but motel covered signs, sorry I can't work out
what they are, sorry?  I'm looking at doing people I've just downloaded the
Poser Demo and having a little fiddle I would like to have finally a motion
blurred scene of people representing this fast moving business world.
Thanks

Pete

Steve <ste### [at] zeroppsuklinuxnet> wrote in message
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> Exelent work here Peter.
>
> The textures are fab, but you've missed the metal handrail
> on the ordinary set of steps, and some of those metal covered
> signs that they have on the central reservations.
>
> Ths scene seems to be lacking a sense of movement, and I don't
> really know how you could get that in here without using people.
>
>
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He thats generally true, a few months ago it would have been mainly
texture/image-less and made of cubes without rounded edges, I never thought
of it like that - lifes a <female dog>.

Pete

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>
>
> Peter Cracknell wrote:
> >
> > I like to have little projects on the go, as I never seem to be able to
> > spend more than a few days on a project - maybe as I get faster this
means I
> > will finish more projects.
>
> Getting faster means learning more. As you learn more your scenes will
> become more complex. As your scenes become more complex it will take
> longer to develop and render them. Sorry but you just can't win :)
>
> >  Anyways this is my first real use of proper
> > texturing, ie its used slightly (though still not that much) more
subtily
> > than in others to create at atmosphere.  This may one day be an
underground
> > (london?) station, there are walls but they are all bright red like
every
> > other object was and so hidden.  I think its one of my best yet so I
hope
> > you like it.  Comments and suggestions appreciated.
>
> Looks like a good start though a tad too dark on my monitor.
>
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On Sat, 19 Aug 2000 00:19:09 +0100, Peter Cracknell wrote:
>Metal Handrails - goodpoint, but motel covered signs, sorry I can't work out
>what they are, sorry?  I'm looking at doing people I've just downloaded the
>Poser Demo and having a little fiddle I would like to have finally a motion
>blurred scene of people representing this fast moving business world.
>Thanks

Yes those metal covered triangular signs that they have on the central
reservations, you always look at them and think "that's why nobody
ever tries to just slide down the middle".  I'd do you a quick render
of one of the signs but I'm in the middle of another project at the 
moment. 

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... must be an American thing, I don't remember ever seeing them, but I'm
stupid enough to model something that I've very rarely seen - though I could
do with some signs (dirty of course) to add a little more flavour (along
with some cheesy ads to the sides).

Thanks

Pete

Steve <ste### [at] zeroppsuklinuxnet> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 19 Aug 2000 00:19:09 +0100, Peter Cracknell wrote:
> >Metal Handrails - goodpoint, but motel covered signs, sorry I can't work
out
> >what they are, sorry?  I'm looking at doing people I've just downloaded
the
> >Poser Demo and having a little fiddle I would like to have finally a
motion
> >blurred scene of people representing this fast moving business world.
> >Thanks
>
> Yes those metal covered triangular signs that they have on the central
> reservations, you always look at them and think "that's why nobody
> ever tries to just slide down the middle".  I'd do you a quick render
> of one of the signs but I'm in the middle of another project at the
> moment.
>
> --
> Cheers
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On Sun, 20 Aug 2000 15:21:15 +0100, Peter Cracknell wrote:
>... must be an American thing, I don't remember ever seeing them, but I'm
>stupid enough to model something that I've very rarely seen - though I could
>do with some signs (dirty of course) to add a little more flavour (along
>with some cheesy ads to the sides).

No not American, I've never been to the US, I'm talking about London. 

I'll see if I can find a picture on the web. 

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I've been looking around and going through my mini-library of annoyingly
lo-res pictures I found on the web (all 10 of them or so) I found a triangle
down the centre - included though as I said its lo-res, if you or anyone
could find something slightly more detailed or just tell me what 3d shape it
is along with whats on it, I'd be especially grateful.
Thanks again

Pete

Steve <ste### [at] zeroppsuklinuxnet> wrote in message
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> No not American, I've never been to the US, I'm talking about London.
>
> I'll see if I can find a picture on the web.
>

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Peter Cracknell wrote:
> 
> I've been looking around and going through my mini-library of annoyingly
> lo-res pictures I found on the web (all 10 of them or so) I found a triangle
> down the centre - included though as I said its lo-res, if you or anyone
> could find something slightly more detailed or just tell me what 3d shape it
> is along with whats on it, I'd be especially grateful.
> Thanks again
> 
	Well, here (Paris) it's just a triangular prism made of the same metal
as the rest, nothing special on it...

		Jerome
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Wasn't it Peter Cracknell who wrote:
>I've been looking around and going through my mini-library of annoyingly
>lo-res pictures I found on the web (all 10 of them or so) I found a triangle
>down the centre - included though as I said its lo-res, if you or anyone
>could find something slightly more detailed or just tell me what 3d shape it
>is along with whats on it, I'd be especially grateful.
>Thanks again

I recognise that picture as being of part of the London Underground (the
big clue is the underground symbol on the rightmost poster (a ring with
a bar through it).

If I remember correctly, the objects on the surfaces between the stairs
have a triangular cross section, and the ends slope inwards at about the
same angle as the faces. Something like:-

#include "metals"
intersection {
  plane {y, -0.5 inverse}
  plane {y, -0.5 rotate x*120 inverse}  
  plane {y, -0.5 rotate x*240 inverse}
  plane {x, 4 rotate z*30}
  plane {x, -4 rotate -z*30 inverse}
  texture{T_Chrome_3B}
  // rotated so that the bottom face matches the slope
  rotate x*Escalator_Slope
}  

but with rounded edges.

They bear the inscription "Please stand on the right".

Not all London Underground escalators have exactly the same objects, but
they all have something in the same approximate locations to dissuade
kids from sliding down the spaces between the escalators.

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Thanks a lot, I'll load it up n dirty it if I can, please stand to the
right - I knew there'd be a message.

Thanks

Pete

Mike Williams <mik### [at] nospamplease> wrote in message
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> Wasn't it Peter Cracknell who wrote:
> >I've been looking around and going through my mini-library of annoyingly
> >lo-res pictures I found on the web (all 10 of them or so) I found a
triangle
> >down the centre - included though as I said its lo-res, if you or anyone
> >could find something slightly more detailed or just tell me what 3d shape
it
> >is along with whats on it, I'd be especially grateful.
> >Thanks again
>
> I recognise that picture as being of part of the London Underground (the
> big clue is the underground symbol on the rightmost poster (a ring with
> a bar through it).
>
> If I remember correctly, the objects on the surfaces between the stairs
> have a triangular cross section, and the ends slope inwards at about the
> same angle as the faces. Something like:-
>
> #include "metals"
> intersection {
>   plane {y, -0.5 inverse}
>   plane {y, -0.5 rotate x*120 inverse}
>   plane {y, -0.5 rotate x*240 inverse}
>   plane {x, 4 rotate z*30}
>   plane {x, -4 rotate -z*30 inverse}
>   texture{T_Chrome_3B}
>   // rotated so that the bottom face matches the slope
>   rotate x*Escalator_Slope
> }
>
> but with rounded edges.
>
> They bear the inscription "Please stand on the right".
>
> Not all London Underground escalators have exactly the same objects, but
> they all have something in the same approximate locations to dissuade
> kids from sliding down the spaces between the escalators.
>
> --
> Mike Williams
> Gentleman of Leisure

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