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These changes do make a big difference. It's improved by about
100% by this change alone.
Nice work.
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Mike Williams wrote:
> Do you mean to do something like
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> intersection {
> text { ttf "faktos.ttf", "G", 2, 0 translate <-0.25,-0.36,-1>
> scale <4,2.4,1>}
> text { ttf "faktos.ttf", "E", 2, 0 translate <-0.25,-0.36,-1>
> scale <4,2.4,1> rotate y*90}
> text { ttf "faktos.ttf", "B", 2, 0 translate <-0.25,-0.36,-1>
> scale <4,2.4,1> rotate x*90}
> pigment {rgb 1}
> }
I made this exact setup a while back using the MegaPOV min_extent and
max_extent to scale the letters properly...
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why expire anything? why not put up a collection plate to buy like a
40GB hard drive or something? i hope that in the manual trimming
responses were trimmed before images!
Ken wrote:
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> ryan constantine wrote:
> >
> > these newsgroups are archived here so i'm not sure i know what you
> > mean. the only group that has it's posts deleted as far as i know is
> > the off topic group.
>
> This group has been manualy trimmed a couple of times becasue of the
> resources it was taking up. The binaries.animations group has likewise
> suffered. The News admin will eventually have to set up these two groups
> with a 1 year auto expire but for the time being is doing so only when
> server resources are strained.
>
> To the best of my knowledge there is no publically available archive
> of these groups available. I "think" news admin has a back up of the
> server somewhere but I don't know for sure.
>
> --
> Ken Tyler - ken### [at] tagpovrayorg
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On Tue, 15 Aug 2000 15:27:29 -0700, ryan constantine wrote:
>why expire anything? why not put up a collection plate to buy like a
>40GB hard drive or something? i hope that in the manual trimming
>responses were trimmed before images!
>
The responses take up very little space campared to images, it makes it
more consistant and understandable if posts are trimmed by date.
From what I've heard/read the sales of the IRTC CDrom support the maintenance
and and H/W of this server, and if all the regular visitors bought the CD
then there wouldn't be a space issue.
I'm not speaking for the POV team or the IRTC here, just repeating what I've
read.
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Steve email mailto:ste### [at] zeroppsuklinuxnet
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although posts like
"awesome image dude!"
are pretty pointless when left behind after the original image has been
deleted. or any coment for that matter.
i was under the impression that the server had been donated. maybe not
huh? so how many IRTC cdroms are sold? and what are the operating
costs it pays for? i thought all of pov was simply enthusiast
contribution of time and so forth.
Steve wrote:
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> On Tue, 15 Aug 2000 15:27:29 -0700, ryan constantine wrote:
> >why expire anything? why not put up a collection plate to buy like a
> >40GB hard drive or something? i hope that in the manual trimming
> >responses were trimmed before images!
> >
>
> The responses take up very little space campared to images, it makes it
> more consistant and understandable if posts are trimmed by date.
>
> From what I've heard/read the sales of the IRTC CDrom support the maintenance
> and and H/W of this server, and if all the regular visitors bought the CD
> then there wouldn't be a space issue.
>
> I'm not speaking for the POV team or the IRTC here, just repeating what I've
> read.
>
> --
> Cheers
> Steve email mailto:ste### [at] zeroppsuklinuxnet
>
> %HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee 0 pps.
>
> web http://www.zeropps.uklinux.net/
>
> or http://start.at/zero-pps
>
> 1:12am up 31 days, 23:39, 2 users, load average: 1.63, 1.61, 1.46
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This reminds me of a catalogue that I got from a guy selling wooden puzzles in
Covent Garden (don't know if he is still there, this is probably 10-12 years
ago). He could make a cube puzzle from any three letters so that each letter
could be extracted through the side. Slightly more imaginative than the
personalised golfballs you sometimes see advertised.
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ryan constantine wrote:
> i was under the impression that the server had been donated.
The server is the private property of one of the POV-Team members.
> maybe not huh?
Nope.
> so how many IRTC cdroms are sold?
No information available.
> and what are the operating costs it pays for?
Bandwidth ! This povray.org server handles the traffic at povray.org,
news.povray.org, the IRTC competition, the TAG home page, the Texture
library, once upon a time a quake server, and possibly other resources
I am forgetting. The server is co-located at company which is a for
profit business that charges its customers for the bandwidth they
consume. For this co-located server the bandwidth is considerable and
the machine takes a beating. Occassionaly the hardward is upgraded
due to failures which are additional costs. All software for the
server is licenced and occassional upgrades to the software cost
additional licensing fees.
> i thought all of pov was simply enthusiast contribution of time
> and so forth.
It is that, but you can't expect the POV-Team to do so out of thier
own not-so-deep pockets. I have never been told what the operating
costs are for all of this, and consider it none of my business, but
I suspect that they are not cheap. I consider the sales of the IRTC
CD's a viable method of funding these resources and anyone who
really wants to help the cause can do so by purshasing one. It has
been discussed before but the POV-Team will not accept direct
donations.
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Ken Tyler - 1400+ POV-Ray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/
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"Ken" <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
news:399AACEC.F4091C9C@pacbell.net...
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| ryan constantine wrote:
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| > i was under the impression that the server had been donated.
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| The server is the private property of one of the POV-Team members.
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| > so how many IRTC cdroms are sold?
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| No information available.
I have all 3 anyway.
| > and what are the operating costs it pays for?
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| The server is co-located at company which is a for
| profit business that charges its customers for the bandwidth they consume.
www.ntplx.net , as the button at the main www.povray.org page shows, Andrew
Lindh is president of Netplex. Hope that's not classified info (j/k).
However I don't know who the person is connected with POV-Ray that runs the
site itself. Anyway, if I'm right in following what Ken says, then there
might be a $400 per month fee involved:
http://www.ntplx.net/services/corporate.colocation.html
Bob
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thanks for the info. what if files that were to be cancelled were given
the chance to be put elsewhere by pov users before they get cancelled?
or maybe, someone out there already grabs threads they think are worth
keeping? my concern is that some of the most valuable information and
examples are being lost by cancelling them. i understand the need to
free up space, but just tossing stuff out doesn't seem like the 'best'
solution. there are a lot of free hard drive things on the internet.
maybe an image and its replies could be zipped and placed in one or more
of these drive sites? i'm just throwing ideas out, so if anyone has
better ideas, i'm all ears.
Ken wrote:
>
> ryan constantine wrote:
>
> > i was under the impression that the server had been donated.
>
> The server is the private property of one of the POV-Team members.
>
> > maybe not huh?
>
> Nope.
>
> > so how many IRTC cdroms are sold?
>
> No information available.
>
> > and what are the operating costs it pays for?
>
> Bandwidth ! This povray.org server handles the traffic at povray.org,
> news.povray.org, the IRTC competition, the TAG home page, the Texture
> library, once upon a time a quake server, and possibly other resources
> I am forgetting. The server is co-located at company which is a for
> profit business that charges its customers for the bandwidth they
> consume. For this co-located server the bandwidth is considerable and
> the machine takes a beating. Occassionaly the hardward is upgraded
> due to failures which are additional costs. All software for the
> server is licenced and occassional upgrades to the software cost
> additional licensing fees.
>
> > i thought all of pov was simply enthusiast contribution of time
> > and so forth.
>
> It is that, but you can't expect the POV-Team to do so out of thier
> own not-so-deep pockets. I have never been told what the operating
> costs are for all of this, and consider it none of my business, but
> I suspect that they are not cheap. I consider the sales of the IRTC
> CD's a viable method of funding these resources and anyone who
> really wants to help the cause can do so by purshasing one. It has
> been discussed before but the POV-Team will not accept direct
> donations.
>
> --
> Ken Tyler - 1400+ POV-Ray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
> http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/
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ryan constantine wrote:
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> my concern is that some of the most valuable information and
> examples are being lost by cancelling them.
Hopefully not. This is why I keep insisting that people use the groups
correctly. This group is for showing images and receiving comments.
If you post code for your scene then it should be moved to one of the
*.scene-files groups. Discussions about features should be taken to
.general, .advanced-users, or .new-users. I have lobbied hard to get
the admin. not to remove material posted to those groups so that those
resources would not be lost. I know you lose the reference image but
the code is there for you to render yourself. Perhaps not a perfect
solution but the best we have to offer at the present time.
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Ken Tyler - 1400+ POV-Ray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/
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