thanks for the info.  what if files that were to be cancelled were given
the chance to be put elsewhere by pov users before they get cancelled? 
or maybe, someone out there already grabs threads they think are worth
keeping?  my concern is that some of the most valuable information and
examples are being lost by cancelling them.  i understand the need to
free up space, but just tossing stuff out doesn't seem like the 'best'
solution.  there are a lot of free hard drive things on the internet. 
maybe an image and its replies could be zipped and placed in one or more
of these drive sites?  i'm just throwing ideas out, so if anyone has
better ideas, i'm all ears.

Ken wrote:
> 
> ryan constantine wrote:
> 
> > i was under the impression that the server had been donated.
> 
> The server is the private property of one of the POV-Team members.
> 
> >  maybe not huh?
> 
> Nope.
> 
> > so how many IRTC cdroms are sold?
> 
> No information available.
> 
> > and what are the operating costs it pays for?
> 
> Bandwidth ! This povray.org server handles the traffic at povray.org,
> news.povray.org, the IRTC competition, the TAG home page, the Texture
> library, once upon a time a quake server, and possibly other resources
> I am forgetting. The server is co-located at company which is a for
> profit business that charges its customers for the bandwidth they
> consume. For this co-located server the bandwidth is considerable and
> the machine takes a beating. Occassionaly the hardward is upgraded
> due to failures which are additional costs. All software for the
> server is licenced and occassional upgrades to the software cost
> additional licensing fees.
> 
> >  i thought all of pov was simply enthusiast contribution of time
> > and so forth.
> 
> It is that, but you can't expect the POV-Team to do so out of thier
> own not-so-deep pockets. I have never been told what the operating
> costs are for all of this, and consider it none of my business, but
> I suspect that they are not cheap. I consider the sales of the IRTC
> CD's a viable method of funding these resources and anyone who
> really wants to help the cause can do so by purshasing one. It has
> been discussed before but the POV-Team will not accept direct
> donations.
> 
> --
> Ken Tyler - 1400+ POV-Ray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
> http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/

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