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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: 3D lightsabres
Date: 6 Apr 1999 20:36:21
Message: <370A9A09.DAD4A27E@aol.com>
Yep, here's mine. A set of four (actually same) criss-crossing blades in
stereo pair images.
 Instructions for seeing this in 3D:
Position yourself directly in front of the screen keeping your head
level at a distance of ~3 feet (~60 cm) or more {further is better}.
Hold one hand flat, vertically (and perpendicular to the monitor screen)
in front of your face so as to divide your eyes; while staring at the
image twist your hand at an angle until you can only see the left image
with the left eye and the right image with the right eye. Close each eye
alternately, if needed. With both eyes open stare straight ahead at the
twin images. Once these 2 images merge there will appear to be a 3D
image with actual depth. If you can keep focus on it while removing your
hand there will be 3 images in all. The 2 outside are the original ones
and the one at center is the new 3D image.
 Due to the larger size of this image the distance from it needs to be
greater than for those at my 3D web page.
Have a look at a few of my other 3D images and "visual" 3D viewing aide
at:

 http://members.aol.com/wrld0rigin/3D.htm

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From: bankspad
Subject: Re: 3D lightsabres
Date: 6 Apr 1999 21:31:33
Message: <370AA32A.5515B9F3@pacbell.net>
droooool..... that is so cool! ;-]
okay then, I'm off to see your site.
KB-

Bob Hughes wrote:

> Yep, here's mine. A set of four (actually same) criss-crossing blades in
> stereo pair images.
>  Instructions for seeing this in 3D:
> Position yourself directly in front of the screen keeping your head
> level at a distance of ~3 feet (~60 cm) or more {further is better}.
> Hold one hand flat, vertically (and perpendicular to the monitor screen)
> in front of your face so as to divide your eyes; while staring at the
> image twist your hand at an angle until you can only see the left image
> with the left eye and the right image with the right eye. Close each eye
> alternately, if needed. With both eyes open stare straight ahead at the
> twin images. Once these 2 images merge there will appear to be a 3D
> image with actual depth. If you can keep focus on it while removing your
> hand there will be 3 images in all. The 2 outside are the original ones
> and the one at center is the new 3D image.
>  Due to the larger size of this image the distance from it needs to be
> greater than for those at my 3D web page.
> Have a look at a few of my other 3D images and "visual" 3D viewing aide
> at:
>
>  http://members.aol.com/wrld0rigin/3D.htm
>
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From: Simon de Vet
Subject: Re: 3D lightsabres
Date: 6 Apr 1999 22:18:28
Message: <370AB266.5143260A@istar.ca>
Bob Hughes wrote:

> Yep, here's mine. A set of four (actually same) criss-crossing blades in
> stereo pair images.
>  Instructions for seeing this in 3D:

I've always been able to do this easily, and this pic looks good in 3-d

However, I suggest making the image smaller, or having the two halves closer
together. This requires sooooo much eye crossing, it gives me a headache. Even
a reduction to 70-80% of the size would make a world of difference....


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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: 3D lightsabres
Date: 6 Apr 1999 22:32:32
Message: <370AB58C.A72BBD45@aol.com>
Yep, sorry, I thought so too. I hurriedly used a clumsy left/right shift
as second thought to just plain old single image. The camera is rotated
off axis some and instead of shifting the rotation I translated in 2
axes (x,z) by what probably is too large a shift anyhow since I guessed
it.
I did try keeping the images narrowed in width. Basically the eye
separation just can't be compromised or you get cock-eyed too much.
Suppose cross-eyed would be easier but I've never done those since it
seems to go against logic looking at opposite sides.
I'll probably go ahead and reduce this one and add it onto my web page.


Simon de Vet wrote:
> 
> However, I suggest making the image smaller, or having the two halves closer
> together. This requires sooooo much eye crossing, it gives me a headache. Even
> a reduction to 70-80% of the size would make a world of difference....

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From: Nathan Kopp
Subject: Re: 3D lightsabres
Date: 7 Apr 1999 01:31:02
Message: <370ADECE.4C563873@Kopp.com>
What you have now is a diverge-your-eyes picture (the usual magic-eye uses
diverge)... with big pictures I find it easer to cross my eyes instead.
I can't diverge my eyes far enough for this picture, but if I reverse the
frames (in a paint program) and then cross my eyes, it looks great!

-Nathan


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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: 3D lightsabres
Date: 7 Apr 1999 10:59:45
Message: <370B64B3.39719656@aol.com>
Alas, I know... It's just that I keep thinking I might print these and
use a stereoscope viewer on them someday 8)
I've said it before and I'll say it again, trick is to get far away from
the monitor screen to ease the eyes.
I've added this particular one to my 3D web page shrunk down a bit,
again the URL is:

 http://members.aol.com/wrld0rigin/3D.htm

I need to put more up. And try cross-eyed versions too I guess, you can
get closer to them.


Nathan Kopp wrote:
> 
> What you have now is a diverge-your-eyes picture (the usual magic-eye uses
> diverge)... with big pictures I find it easer to cross my eyes instead.
> I can't diverge my eyes far enough for this picture, but if I reverse the
> frames (in a paint program) and then cross my eyes, it looks great!
> 
> -Nathan

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From: Noam Lewis
Subject: Re: 3D lightsabres
Date: 8 Apr 1999 06:09:07
Message: <370C7224.38E3ECF9@netvision.net.il>
The fact is that I was just thinking about this idea in the pas week and
was about to post it here. I thought of maybe holding two papertowel
cones in front on ones eyes, so that each eye gets one image. However, i
figured a better way to do it after not succeeding with your technique:
Instead of holding one hand in front of your eyes, hold two, it will be
MUCH easier, even for big images:

	 \/    <--- two hands, twisted in opposite directions	
	-00-   <-- eyes
       /head\
       \    / 
        ----

Anyway, you images are cool!


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From: Noam Lewis
Subject: Re: 3D lightsabres
Date: 8 Apr 1999 06:11:02
Message: <370C72A0.57B627C@netvision.net.il>
Oh, and I forgot to mension my other idea: 3D ANIMATIONS!


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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: 3D lightsabres
Date: 8 Apr 1999 09:45:35
Message: <370ca4ef.0@news.povray.org>
Have you tried it with SISs?  (aka Autostereograms?)  VERY COOL!!! :-)

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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: 3D lightsabres
Date: 8 Apr 1999 14:37:28
Message: <370CE936.CB315760@aol.com>
Heh-heh, yeah, paper towel tubes. I used to do it that way, that's why I
came up with the twisted flat vertical hand idea to make it utensil-free
viewing. The one hand thing does work rather well I believe, all thats
necessary is for the eyes to be helped to see only one image each.
A lot also depends though on the individuals ability to go cockeyed with
this type of stereo pair. I often do it without any aide whatsoever, so
long as the images are either small or seen from far away.


Noam Lewis wrote:
> 
> The fact is that I was just thinking about this idea in the pas week and
> was about to post it here. I thought of maybe holding two papertowel
> cones in front on ones eyes, so that each eye gets one image. However, i
> figured a better way to do it after not succeeding with your technique:
> Instead of holding one hand in front of your eyes, hold two, it will be
> MUCH easier, even for big images:
> 
>          \/    <--- two hands, twisted in opposite directions
>         -00-   <-- eyes
>        /head\
>        \    /
>         ----
> 
> Anyway, you images are cool!

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