Nice work!

But in ballett, if you do a thing like that, you should
stretch your right leg far out when in front of you.
Just a little hint.

Keep on working. Great success is near. :-)
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On Wed, 2 Jul 2003 00:20:17 +0200, "DigitalTwilight" <kin### [at] gmxnet>
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>Nice work!
>
>But in ballett, if you do a thing like that, you should
>stretch your right leg far out when in front of you.
>Just a little hint.
>
>Keep on working. Great success is near. :-)
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You must have missed an earlier part of the thread. The models movement is from
a BVH file where a live actor has sensors placed on their body and the movement
is recorded. Therefore changing the motion becomes a Poser skill. I got put off
after working on an animation posted as Hiwire (?) and will not be continuing
this sort of thing any time soon :-{
Thanks for the comment though as any encouragement is appreciated.
 

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        Stephen

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> You must have missed an earlier part of the thread. The models movement is
from
> a BVH file where a live actor has sensors placed on their body and the
movement
> is recorded. Therefore changing the motion becomes a Poser skill. I got
put off
> after working on an animation posted as Hiwire (?) and will not be
continuing
> this sort of thing any time soon :-{
> Thanks for the comment though as any encouragement is appreciated.

Jup, I must have missed it. Did it was a kind of motion capturing?
Motion capturing is a good way to copy the movements of a real
person. But for me it sometimes looks a bit too static. After capturing
the motions must be edited to smooth them. Have you seen
"The final flight of the Osiris" of the Animatrix-series? There they
proofed that motion capturing can look very good.

Well, I haven't done anything with POV-Ray for long time. I think it
is time for me to get to work.

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On Wed, 2 Jul 2003 11:53:08 +0200, "DigitalTwilight" <kin### [at] gmxnet>
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>Jup, I must have missed it. Did it was a kind of motion capturing?

Yup, "motion capturing" that's the phrase.

>Motion capturing is a good way to copy the movements of a real
>person. But for me it sometimes looks a bit too static. After capturing
>the motions must be edited to smooth them. 

Tell me about it! :-}

>Have you seen
>"The final flight of the Osiris" of the Animatrix-series? There they
>proofed that motion capturing can look very good.

No, I'm not a great movie fan. I posted another motion capture animation here.
http://news.povray.org/moray.binaries/29025/
It was my first attempt and the textures and props are poor. 

>Well, I haven't done anything with POV-Ray for long time. I think it
>is time for me to get to work.

Who am I to disagree? :-}

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        Stephen

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> >Motion capturing is a good way to copy the movements of a real
> >person. But for me it sometimes looks a bit too static. After capturing
> >the motions must be edited to smooth them.
>
> Tell me about it! :-}

I don't know that much about the workflow but you can read a bit
about it on this site:

http://www.metamotion.com


> >Have you seen
> >"The final flight of the Osiris" of the Animatrix-series? There they
> >proofed that motion capturing can look very good.
>
> No, I'm not a great movie fan. I posted another motion capture animation
here.
> http://news.povray.org/moray.binaries/29025/
> It was my first attempt and the textures and props are poor.

Hey that one is quite cool. I think its Capoeira (Brazilian Martial Art)

I think I should also work a bit more with Poser.

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On Wed, 2 Jul 2003 21:04:47 +0200, "DigitalTwilight" <kin### [at] gmxnet>
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>> Tell me about it! :-}
>
>I don't know that much about the workflow but you can read a bit
>about it on this site:

I'm so sorry, that is an ironic phrase. It really means "There is no need to
tell me about it as I know all about it". In casual conversation we (Britt's)
often say the opposite of what we mean with an exasperated tone. I should not
have used it here as it leads to confusion. All I can say in my defence is that
the standard of English here is so high that it is easy to forget. Any more
would be off topic.

>
>Hey that one is quite cool. I think its Capoeira (Brazilian Martial Art)
>
>I think I should also work a bit more with Poser.
>
Sorry it comes under the category of dance at 
http://www.stanford.edu/class/cs348c/BVH/SantaMonicaStudios/
or maybe they are not. I just checked the site and it's not there now. If you
are interested I downloaded all the ones I could find, 330 of them zipped it
comes to 32 meg I could certainly send you some.


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        Stephen

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I'm from germany and not that familiar with
little nuances in the meening of some phrases.

I uploaded a trailer to capoeira and the moves
they make are quite similar to those you used.

http://www.digitaltwilight.de/dl/CapoeiraTrailer.mpg (5,5 MB)

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On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 01:14:04 +0200, "DigitalTwilight" <kin### [at] gmxnet>
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>I'm from germany and not that familiar with
>little nuances in the meening of some phrases.

My fault

>I uploaded a trailer to capoeira and the moves
>they make are quite similar to those you used.
>
>http://www.digitaltwilight.de/dl/CapoeiraTrailer.mpg (5,5 MB)
>
I downloaded it and see what you mean. I bet that does nothing good for their
joints. I speak from personal experience having practiced Judo in my youth :-{

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        Stephen

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> I downloaded it and see what you mean. I bet that does nothing good for
their
> joints. I speak from personal experience having practiced Judo in my youth
:-{

But it looks cool.

Regards,
    Flo

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On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 02:12:18 -0400, Dick Balaska <dik### [at] seeorganizationfield>
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>
>Very, very nice.  I like the phong off her butt.
>Very nice breast movement on this one.  Are you saying she had sensors on her
>breasts for the recording?

No the breast and hair movement was done by a C++ programme by Masa, called PAE
http://www.eurus.dti.ne.jp/~masasi/Service/indexE.html
It calculates the breast and hair movements in relation to the Poser models body
motion.

>
>Too bad her feet go through the floor. (as opposed to your first flick, which
>had exquisite feet movement).
>
So they do, I hadn't noticed. I was in a hurry to do it and at the time I was
more interested in the hair movement and background. If you want to see poor
feet movement look at "High Wire" that took weeks of correcting the feet and
scunnered me :-}
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        Stephen

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