"Rohan Bernett" <rox### [at] yahoocom> wrote in message
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> W wrote:
> >On Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:27:02 +1000, Rohan Bernett <rox### [at] yahoocom>
wrote:
> >> I have a great idea for a huge animation project.
> >
> >similiar to http://www.imp.org/ ?
> >
>
> Sounds a little like my idea.
>

Except we are only using either public domain stories(like Aesop) or
originals.

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If the project is being done for free and by the public, who are the
publishers going to sue? Everyone who has ever read the books?

Rohan _e_ii

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> If the project is being done for free and by the public, who are the
> publishers going to sue? Everyone who has ever read the books?

While there's certainly a grey zone when it comes to fan fiction, hot
properties like this are very closely guarded. To take an example I've read
about, Anne McAffrey (writer of the Dragonriders of Pern series) encourages
fan fiction, provided it doesn't use characters and situations from the
books. This is not to take lightly : very recently, in France, the family of
Saint-Exupery sent their lawyers (or threatened to do so) to a school that
wanted to make a local, but unauthorised, stage production of The Little
Prince with kids as actors. As outrageous as it seemed, they were in their
full right apparently.
And we're not talking about a billion-dollar franchise like Harry Potter...

G.


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Big companies are getting too much power and making too much money anyway. I
say go ahead and make the project anyway and ignore the big companies. Why
not do the project as open source, then they can't do anything about it.
:-)

Rohan _e_ii

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"Rohan Bernett" <rox### [at] yahoocom> wrote:
> Big companies are getting too much power and making too much money anyway.
I
> say go ahead and make the project anyway and ignore the big companies. Why
> not do the project as open source, then they can't do anything about it.
> :-)
>
> Rohan _e_ii

Alas, I fear it is not so simple.
An open source project needs some leader(s), to coordinate effort, etc.
Even if it is perfectly distributed, the site can be closed, even the server
owners can be sued, etc.
Big companies are powerful (lot of money, lot of lawyers), and are very
aggressive when they feel their money is threatened...

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> web.3d4cf5d19fdfa9aa2c120f590@news.povray.org...
> > If the project is being done for free and by the public, who are the
> > publishers going to sue? Everyone who has ever read the books?
>
> While there's certainly a grey zone when it comes to fan fiction, hot
> properties like this are very closely guarded. To take an example I've
read
> about, Anne McAffrey (writer of the Dragonriders of Pern series)
encourages
> fan fiction, provided it doesn't use characters and situations from the
> books. This is not to take lightly : very recently, in France, the family
of
> Saint-Exupery sent their lawyers (or threatened to do so) to a school that
> wanted to make a local, but unauthorised, stage production of The Little
> Prince with kids as actors. As outrageous as it seemed, they were in their
> full right apparently.
> And we're not talking about a billion-dollar franchise like Harry
Potter...

I have read that Disney forced a kindergarden to destroy a fresco showing
Disney characters (Goofy, Mickey, etc.).
Urban legend or reality, I don't know, but I believe it could be true...
Perhaps they have softened their policy now, as a matter of public relation.

BTW, once the project is completed, I guess Harry Potter will be in public
domain anyway :-)
But releasing peek preview is another matter...

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> Big companies are getting too much power and making too much money anyway.
I
> say go ahead and make the project anyway and ignore the big companies. Why
> not do the project as open source, then they can't do anything about it.
> :-)
>
> Rohan _e_ii
>

Yeah! Sure! Go ahead, but if I was going to try and bring a copyrighted work
to film,
 I think I would get permission first.  If it is truly a fan effort and not
for profit, an author
may be inclined to give a limited license for free.  I'll just keep working
on IMP.  A lot
less lawyers there, besides there is already a movie version of Harry Potter
that is not
half bad.

Tom

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Tom Galvin wrote:

>If it is truly a fan effort and not for profit, an author
>may be inclined to give a limited license for free.

Well the project would be a true fan effort and not for profit. I would go
and contact the author, if I knew an email address to contact her at. What
is a limited license anyway?

>besides there is already a movie version of Harry Potter that is not half bad.

Unfortunatly it leaves out a fair bit of what is in the book (I'd guess
about a third of it), including an important part in the defences for the
philosopher's stone.

I recall reading somewhere that J K Rowling finds fan-made things about the
Harry Potter characters rather flattering, so I suppose this would be the
ultimate form of flattery for her. :-)

Rohan _e_ii

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"Rohan Bernett" <rox### [at] yahoocom> wrote in message
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> Tom Galvin wrote:
>
> >If it is truly a fan effort and not for profit, an author
> >may be inclined to give a limited license for free.
>
> Well the project would be a true fan effort and not for profit. I would go
> and contact the author, if I knew an email address to contact her at. What
> is a limited license anyway?

Here is the contact info for use of Harry Potter.
http://www.bloomsburymagazine.com/harrypotter/copyright/index.html

I wish you luck, but I think you would have better luck with a less
commercial
piece.  But before approaching a copyright holder I would have all my ducks
in
a row.  Have answers to any question they may have and clearly define the
scope
of your intended use of the copyright, and be clear that you will abide by
all their
restrictions.

One of my favorite candidates for translation to film is "Little Fuzzy" by
H. Beam Piper.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0441484980/qid=1028605823/sr=1-5/ref=
sr_1_5/102-4166119-2251359

Tom

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Well, I contaced the publishers, now I just have to wait for a reply.

Keep your fingers crossed...

Rohan _e_ii

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