how about a plugin that will actually read :

*.raw, *.3ds, *.prj, *.asc, *.iob, *.obj, *.lwo, *.lws, *.dxf, *.pob,
*.pov, *.obj, *.obt, *.wrl, and a few more ....
I copied these extent ions off of the 3dwin web site....   but as i see
it, it would be better to have a plugin that would read these formats
and allow moray to use them... maybe even make a CSG or a mesh out of
them (which ever would be more feasible). if whoever takes on this
ENORMOUS task perhaps maybe cutting down to the most common formats
(DXF, 3DS, COB, and maybe Lightwave formats)

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Actually, I PREFER using 3Dwin, because it automatically smooths the
output, and places it in Moray UDO/INC form, which is native to POV-Ray.
The major failing point of this program is that it doesn't read VRML, which
is the output from my favorite little program, STOMP 3D. The workaround for
that is that I just use Crossroads, which works just fine.

Psychomek wrote:

> how about a plugin that will actually read :
>
> *.raw, *.3ds, *.prj, *.asc, *.iob, *.obj, *.lwo, *.lws, *.dxf, *.pob,
>



> *.pov,

If you get ANY kind of conversion of POV-Ray, you will have people trading
the holy grail and their favorite grandmother for it.

> *.obj, *.obt, *.wrl, and a few more ....
> I copied these extent ions off of the 3dwin web site....   but as i see
> it, it would be better to have a plugin that would read these formats
> and allow moray to use them... maybe even make a CSG or a mesh out of
> them (which ever would be more feasible). if whoever takes on this
> ENORMOUS task perhaps maybe cutting down to the most common formats
> (DXF, 3DS, COB, and maybe Lightwave formats)



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there IS a C++ Class library that will parse pov-ray 3.0 files.

It can be found at:
http://www9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/~cnvogelg/pov2rib/index.html

libParPov Features:

supports scene syntax from version 1 to 3
handles all #-commands including #while, #if, #switch
supports all known geometry (finite & infinite solids, finite patches, CSG
containers, references)
all kinds of textures with all components (pigment, normal, finish, halo)
environment features are supported (fog, sky_sphere, background, atmosphere,
rainbow)
handle complex numerical and string expressions with functions and operators
introduced in version 2 and 3
to sum up: I tried to include all features described in the POV Reference
Manual of version 3!!

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Alex Magidow wrote in message <36C22825.FF22CE74@mninter.net>...
>Actually, I PREFER using 3Dwin, because it automatically smooths the
>output, and places it in Moray UDO/INC form, which is native to POV-Ray.
>The major failing point of this program is that it doesn't read VRML, which
>is the output from my favorite little program, STOMP 3D. The workaround for
>that is that I just use Crossroads, which works just fine.
>
>Psychomek wrote:
>
>> how about a plugin that will actually read :
>>
>> *.raw, *.3ds, *.prj, *.asc, *.iob, *.obj, *.lwo, *.lws, *.dxf, *.pob,
>>
>
>
>
>> *.pov,
>
>If you get ANY kind of conversion of POV-Ray, you will have people trading
>the holy grail and their favorite grandmother for it.
>
>> *.obj, *.obt, *.wrl, and a few more ....
>> I copied these extent ions off of the 3dwin web site....   but as i see
>> it, it would be better to have a plugin that would read these formats
>> and allow moray to use them... maybe even make a CSG or a mesh out of
>> them (which ever would be more feasible). if whoever takes on this
>> ENORMOUS task perhaps maybe cutting down to the most common formats
>> (DXF, 3DS, COB, and maybe Lightwave formats)
>
>
>
>--
>Only I can prevent narcissism!
>
>

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Anyone written something like POV2DXF yet, with this library?

Anyone written a RIB2... at all?

Twyst wrote:

> there IS a C++ Class library that will parse pov-ray 3.0 files.
>
> It can be found at:
> http://www9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/~cnvogelg/pov2rib/index.html
>
> libParPov Features:
>
> supports scene syntax from version 1 to 3
> handles all #-commands including #while, #if, #switch
> supports all known geometry (finite & infinite solids, finite patches, CSG
> containers, references)
> all kinds of textures with all components (pigment, normal, finish, halo)
> environment features are supported (fog, sky_sphere, background, atmosphere,
> rainbow)
> handle complex numerical and string expressions with functions and operators
> introduced in version 2 and 3
> to sum up: I tried to include all features described in the POV Reference
> Manual of version 3!!
>
> --
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> povray.doc -- An engaging tale about a spanish guy named Manual.
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Alex Magidow wrote in message <36C22825.FF22CE74@mninter.net>...
> >Actually, I PREFER using 3Dwin, because it automatically smooths the
> >output, and places it in Moray UDO/INC form, which is native to POV-Ray.
> >The major failing point of this program is that it doesn't read VRML, which
> >is the output from my favorite little program, STOMP 3D. The workaround for
> >that is that I just use Crossroads, which works just fine.
> >
> >Psychomek wrote:
> >
> >> how about a plugin that will actually read :
> >>
> >> *.raw, *.3ds, *.prj, *.asc, *.iob, *.obj, *.lwo, *.lws, *.dxf, *.pob,
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >> *.pov,
> >
> >If you get ANY kind of conversion of POV-Ray, you will have people trading
> >the holy grail and their favorite grandmother for it.
> >
> >> *.obj, *.obt, *.wrl, and a few more ....
> >> I copied these extent ions off of the 3dwin web site....   but as i see
> >> it, it would be better to have a plugin that would read these formats
> >> and allow moray to use them... maybe even make a CSG or a mesh out of
> >> them (which ever would be more feasible). if whoever takes on this
> >> ENORMOUS task perhaps maybe cutting down to the most common formats
> >> (DXF, 3DS, COB, and maybe Lightwave formats)
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >Only I can prevent narcissism!
> >
> >



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Psychomek wrote:
> 
> how about a plugin that will actually read :
> 
> *.raw, *.3ds, *.prj, *.asc, *.iob, *.obj, *.lwo, *.lws, *.dxf, *.pob,
> *.pov, *.obj, *.obt, *.wrl, and a few more ....
> I copied these extent ions off of the 3dwin web site....   but as i see
> it, it would be better to have a plugin that would read these formats
> and allow moray to use them... maybe even make a CSG or a mesh out of
> them (which ever would be more feasible). if whoever takes on this
> ENORMOUS task perhaps maybe cutting down to the most common formats
> (DXF, 3DS, COB, and maybe Lightwave formats)

Gee, my renderer plugin also includes import for .obj and .3ds meshes. 
For the 3DS files it also translates the textures and attaches them to
the appropriate pieces (you can then go edit the parameters of the
textures if you don't like what you got).  Even if you never use the
rendering functions, the importers are there.

As far as .raw files go, Moray supports that internally - click the raw
object button, select the .raw file and you are all set.

Xander

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Alexander Enzmann wrote:

> Psychomek wrote:
> >
> > how about a plugin that will actually read :
> >
> > *.raw, *.3ds, *.prj, *.asc, *.iob, *.obj, *.lwo, *.lws, *.dxf, *.pob,
> > *.pov, *.obj, *.obt, *.wrl, and a few more ....
> > I copied these extent ions off of the 3dwin web site....   but as i see
> > it, it would be better to have a plugin that would read these formats
> > and allow moray to use them... maybe even make a CSG or a mesh out of
> > them (which ever would be more feasible). if whoever takes on this
> > ENORMOUS task perhaps maybe cutting down to the most common formats
> > (DXF, 3DS, COB, and maybe Lightwave formats)
>
> Gee, my renderer plugin also includes import for .obj and .3ds meshes.
> For the 3DS files it also translates the textures and attaches them to
> the appropriate pieces (you can then go edit the parameters of the
> textures if you don't like what you got).  Even if you never use the
> rendering functions, the importers are there.
>
> As far as .raw files go, Moray supports that internally - click the raw
> object button, select the .raw file and you are all set.
>
> Xander

I was thinking maybe as a replacement for 3dwin or if possible a more up to
date version of it. I use 3dwin myself and i have problems importing
Lightwave formats and others. but i was suggesting maybe instead of an
execute file use a plugin file....   (Psy is thinking maybe that would free
up some memory????)  as for the raw files....  they always look like an early
try of computer art when ever i try to use them in moray...   (SEE BELOW)

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I too like the 3dwin concept (UDO/INC combination) better.  Sometimes if
you need to draw full wireframes of a huge 3DS file, it can take a LONG
time (even on my P266).  Drawing a limited-edge version is much nicer.

-Nathan

Psychomek wrote:
> 
> > Gee, my renderer plugin also includes import for .obj and .3ds meshes.
> > For the 3DS files it also translates the textures and attaches them to
> > the appropriate pieces (you can then go edit the parameters of the
> > textures if you don't like what you got).  Even if you never use the
> > rendering functions, the importers are there.
> >
> > As far as .raw files go, Moray supports that internally - click the raw
> > object button, select the .raw file and you are all set.
> >
> > Xander
> 
> I was thinking maybe as a replacement for 3dwin or if possible a more up to
> date version of it. I use 3dwin myself and i have problems importing
> Lightwave formats and others. but i was suggesting maybe instead of an
> execute file use a plugin file....   (Psy is thinking maybe that would free
> up some memory????)  as for the raw files....  they always look like an early
> try of computer art when ever i try to use them in moray...   (SEE BELOW)
> 
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