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From: Crazyfish
Subject: Moray going down!!!!!
Date: 2 Feb 1999 16:48:43
Message: <36B7641C.3396@flash.net>
I got a few questions:

1)  Is Moray going to close out on me in about 30 days.  They keep on
saying they will but Paint Shop Pro says I have used it for 178 out of
30 days.

2)  Can you make objects (#declare on povray) on Moray without using the
union thing.  The objects keep on messing up.

3)  Can you see your code on Moray?  If so, how?

4)  If you can make a good sword (or lighsaber) please e-mail me at
opi### [at] flashnet

5)  This goes to that "You know you've renderd too long..." person.  Try
this:  "You know you've rendered too long when you try to create a
library of all your school teachers and class mates"
Thank you for your time


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From: Lue Ebra
Subject: Re: Moray going down!!!!!
Date: 2 Feb 1999 18:53:31
Message: <36b78ffb.0@news.povray.org>
--
Lue Ebra
lue### [at] dalnetsuxmuh-nutzorg
www.electro-net.com/~lueebra
"The two most common elements in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity"
Crazyfish wrote in message <36B### [at] flashnet>...
>I got a few questions:
>
>1)  Is Moray going to close out on me in about 30 days.  They keep on
>saying they will but Paint Shop Pro says I have used it for 178 out of
>30 days.
You'll get cute little popups that say something on the order of "You're
using this program quite extensively. Have you thought about registering?"
or some such, but it won't shut dow on you.


>3)  Can you see your code on Moray?  If so, how?
Just export the file to POV (Ctrl-F9). There's your source


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From: LABourdillon
Subject: Re: Moray going down!!!!!
Date: 2 Feb 1999 19:55:04
Message: <36b79e68.0@news.povray.org>
One way to avoid the problem is to register your copy of Moray; as I, and
others, already have...!   The same goes for PSPro - I use that program also
(in the registered version, of course). This is the Moray newsgroup on it's
the povray.org server so I doubt that you'll get much sympathy here for not
registering.

...larry


"somebody" wrote in message <36B### [at] flashnet>...
>I got a few questions:
>
>1)  Is Moray going to close out on me in about 30 days.  They keep on
>saying they will but Paint Shop Pro says I have used it for 178 out of
>30 days.
>


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From: Simon de Vet
Subject: Re: Moray going down!!!!!
Date: 2 Feb 1999 21:16:25
Message: <36B7B1D9.B4CD3613@istar.ca>
Lue Ebra wrote:

> --
> Lue Ebra
> lue### [at] dalnetsuxmuh-nutzorg
> www.electro-net.com/~lueebra
> "The two most common elements in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity"
> Crazyfish wrote in message <36B### [at] flashnet>...
> >I got a few questions:
> >
> >1)  Is Moray going to close out on me in about 30 days.  They keep on
> >saying they will but Paint Shop Pro says I have used it for 178 out of
> >30 days.
> You'll get cute little popups that say something on the order of "You're
> using this program quite extensively. Have you thought about registering?"
> or some such, but it won't shut dow on you.

I don't think that's after 30 days, but after a set number of uses..

I'm so Moray reliant (and too cheap to register) that I started getting those
messages only an hour after downloading :)

Simon
http://home.istar.ca/~sdevet


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From: Ian Burgmyer
Subject: Re: Moray going down!!!!!
Date: 25 Apr 1999 02:14:55
Message: <3722a4cf.0@news.povray.org>
Not everyone's made of money, ya know.  Heck, I'm a student with no source
of income (I'm still in 8th grade and 14).  How am I supposed to purchase
the registered copy of Moray (which I LOVE) and Paint Shop Pro (which I ALSO
love!)?  Maybe in a few years when I'm allowed to work, yes, but now?  No.

Not everyone has money to spend.

-Ian

LABourdillon <lab### [at] ixnetcomcom> wrote in message
news:36b79e68.0@news.povray.org...
> One way to avoid the problem is to register your copy of Moray; as I, and
> others, already have...!   The same goes for PSPro - I use that program
also
> (in the registered version, of course). This is the Moray newsgroup on
it's
> the povray.org server so I doubt that you'll get much sympathy here for
not
> registering.
>
> ...larry
>
>
> "somebody" wrote in message <36B### [at] flashnet>...
> >I got a few questions:
> >
> >1)  Is Moray going to close out on me in about 30 days.  They keep on
> >saying they will but Paint Shop Pro says I have used it for 178 out of
> >30 days.
> >
>
>
>


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From: Johannes Hubert
Subject: Re: Moray going down!!!!!
Date: 25 Apr 1999 04:03:46
Message: <3722be52.0@news.povray.org>
Ian Burgmyer wrote in message <3722a4cf.0@news.povray.org>...
>Not everyone's made of money, ya know.  Heck, I'm a student with no source
>of income (I'm still in 8th grade and 14).  How am I supposed to purchase
>the registered copy of Moray (which I LOVE) and Paint Shop Pro (which I
ALSO
>love!)?  Maybe in a few years when I'm allowed to work, yes, but now?  No.
>
>Not everyone has money to spend.


In this case: Don't use it!

Just face the facts of live! If you haven't got the money for something,
then you can't have that something!

I am a software developer with only an average income. How am I supposed to
purchase that nice ocean-view condo I saw the other day (which I LOVE) or to
pay for the eight weeks heli-snowboarding in the french alps each winter
(which I ALSO love!)? Maybe in a few years when I've made a fortune, yes,
but now? No.

If anyone around here illegally uses pirated software or shareware after the
allowed trial time, then at least KEEP QUIET about it! Don't go around
giving phoney excuses!

Johannes.


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Moray going down!!!!!
Date: 26 Apr 1999 11:17:50
Message: <372475BA.71759E23@nitg.tno.nl>
I totally agree with Johannes!
To Ian Burgmyer: Might be a wish for Birthday and/or Father Chrismas???

Thomas

Johannes Hubert wrote:

> Ian Burgmyer wrote in message <3722a4cf.0@news.povray.org>...
> >Not everyone's made of money, ya know.  Heck, I'm a student with no source
> >of income (I'm still in 8th grade and 14).  How am I supposed to purchase
> >the registered copy of Moray (which I LOVE) and Paint Shop Pro (which I
> ALSO
> >love!)?  Maybe in a few years when I'm allowed to work, yes, but now?  No.
> >
> >Not everyone has money to spend.
>
> In this case: Don't use it!
>
> Just face the facts of live! If you haven't got the money for something,
> then you can't have that something!
>
> I am a software developer with only an average income. How am I supposed to
> purchase that nice ocean-view condo I saw the other day (which I LOVE) or to
> pay for the eight weeks heli-snowboarding in the french alps each winter
> (which I ALSO love!)? Maybe in a few years when I've made a fortune, yes,
> but now? No.
>
> If anyone around here illegally uses pirated software or shareware after the
> allowed trial time, then at least KEEP QUIET about it! Don't go around
> giving phoney excuses!
>
> Johannes.


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From: bucky
Subject: Re: Moray going down!!!!!
Date: 2 May 1999 23:27:05
Message: <372d0979.0@news.povray.org>
hey guys, I think you are missing the point here. I'm in the 8th grade and
cant afford anything but, I dont know about everyone else but when I do get
money in my pocket I will GLADLY pay for it. I hate to say it but I side
with ian, I dont know about ian but I know I will register. but try to
recall back to the 8th grade where the best job you could get was mowing
lawns for $15 a lawn. Also, if 15% goes to church(GOD has been good to me),
45% to colleg that leaves little of the $20 to spend on a 90$ modelling
tool. also I dont think my parents would be too happy if I spent my life
savings on a modeler
-Bucky
Jesus saves


Thomas de Groot <t.d### [at] nitgtnonl> wrote in message
news:372475BA.71759E23@nitg.tno.nl...
> I totally agree with Johannes!
> To Ian Burgmyer: Might be a wish for Birthday and/or Father Chrismas???
>
> Thomas
>
> Johannes Hubert wrote:
>
> > Ian Burgmyer wrote in message <3722a4cf.0@news.povray.org>...
> > >Not everyone's made of money, ya know.  Heck, I'm a student with no
source
> > >of income (I'm still in 8th grade and 14).  How am I supposed to
purchase
> > >the registered copy of Moray (which I LOVE) and Paint Shop Pro (which I
> > ALSO
> > >love!)?  Maybe in a few years when I'm allowed to work, yes, but now?
No.
> > >
> > >Not everyone has money to spend.
> >
> > In this case: Don't use it!
> >
> > Just face the facts of live! If you haven't got the money for something,
> > then you can't have that something!
> >
> > I am a software developer with only an average income. How am I supposed
to
> > purchase that nice ocean-view condo I saw the other day (which I LOVE)
or to
> > pay for the eight weeks heli-snowboarding in the french alps each winter
> > (which I ALSO love!)? Maybe in a few years when I've made a fortune,
yes,
> > but now? No.
> >
> > If anyone around here illegally uses pirated software or shareware after
the
> > allowed trial time, then at least KEEP QUIET about it! Don't go around
> > giving phoney excuses!
> >
> > Johannes.
>
>
>


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Moray going down!!!!!
Date: 4 May 1999 01:43:50
Message: <372E7A90.B0F5596E@pacbell.net>
bucky wrote:
> 
> hey guys, I think you are missing the point here. I'm in the 8th grade and
> cant afford anything but, I dont know about everyone else but when I do get
> money in my pocket I will GLADLY pay for it. I hate to say it but I side
> with ian, I dont know about ian but I know I will register. but try to
> recall back to the 8th grade where the best job you could get was mowing
> lawns for $15 a lawn. Also, if 15% goes to church(GOD has been good to me),
> 45% to colleg that leaves little of the $20 to spend on a 90$ modelling
> tool. also I dont think my parents would be too happy if I spent my life
> savings on a modeler
> -Bucky

  Talk about inflation. I got anywhere from 75 cents to a $1.25 when
I mowed lawns and I am not "THAT" old. I needs to rethink the business
I'm in me thinks.

-- 
Ken Tyler

mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net


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From: Alan Kong
Subject: Re: Moray going down!!!!!
Date: 6 May 1999 21:37:44
Message: <37322923.48245014@news.povray.org>
On Sun, 2 May 1999 21:23:35 -0500, "bucky" <buc### [at] aolcom> wrote:

>I hate to say it but I side
>with ian, I dont know about ian but I know I will register. but try to
>recall back to the 8th grade where the best job you could get was mowing
>lawns for $15 a lawn. Also, if 15% goes to church(GOD has been good to me),
>45% to colleg that leaves little of the $20 to spend on a 90$ modelling
>tool. also I dont think my parents would be too happy if I spent my life
>savings on a modeler


  Hi, Bucky. Let me see if I can phrase it differently than what was
already said regarding Moray registration.

  What if the all of the people who agreed to pay you $15 per lawn
mowing job let you finish mowing all of the lawns and then informed
you that even though they agreed to pay you, they really didn't have
the money and that they hoped to someday be able to pay you. In the
meantime, they are still requesting that you continue to mow their
lawns because the grass is still growing. In other words, they want to
continue to use your services free of charge because they don't have
the money. Would you feel any obligation to continue cutting their
grass for free after they'd all agreed to pay you beforehand?

  Should Lutz Kretzschmar continue development of Moray for free? If
people want a freeware modeler there is Breeze Designer and POVLAB.
When someone uses Moray shareware they have agreed to pay Lutz the
price specified after a certain trial period. I'm sorry I can't recall
how long the trial period is but I've been paying for my Moray
registrations and upgrades since its MS-DOS days. I'm glad to do so if
it'll encourage Lutz to further Moray development.

  Don't take this as a put-down, Bucky. I simply ask you and Ian to
consider the other side of the coin and think about the time and
effort that Lutz and Markus put into Moray. You can continue to use
POV-Ray for free but you might consider honoring the shareware
agreement and remove Moray from your system until you save up enough
to pay for your registration.

-- 
Alan
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