On 06/06/2010 3:51 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 22:02:58 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>

>> I'm a bit scared of SLC
>
> Nah, don't be - it's the liberal part of the state. :-)
>

I'll take your word on that.

>
> LOL, sounds like our kind of place, though we do like personable wait
> staff, but if the food's good and it's not a place tourists tend to
> frequent, all the better. :-)
>

One out of three isn’t good. o_O
The staff are renowned for their rudeness and briskness. The restaurant 
must be in all the tourist books as it is hoaching with tourists in the 
season. But this adds to the fun and the queues. You either hate the 
place or love it.
I love it because it is the type of Chinese food I like and often the 
service is quick. So I can nip in for a meal and be out in about half an 
hour, if I am on my own. Look at the Wiki entry.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wong_Kei
The New World in Gerrard Place is maybe a bit more up market. If you 
like dim sum they do “yum cha” until 6 pm. With the dim sum being served 
from trolleys and the greeters wearing cheongsam. The food is good and 
the price for central London is reasonable.

>>> Yep, and that's what we got.  I grew up reading Paddington Bear
>>> stories, and we've got a collection that we still read from time to
>>> time. :-)
>>>
>> The Bear now eats Marmite.
>
> Indeed, but there's no accounting for taste. :-)
>

Indeed ;-)

>> A deal :-D
>
> You got it.  Now to find the cash for the trip. :-)
>
>

Try to come off season, it is cheeper but wet and cold :-)

>> Well if it was Glasgow then the chances were he was drunk and …
>
> Indeed, I remember parts of my trip to Glasgow.  Good thing we took
> photos. ;-)
>

You got out alive? What a good native guide you had. ;-)


>>> Ooooh, don't think I've had that before (pork obviously isn't often
>>> used, but you know that<G>).
>>

Fusion :-)

>> I used 1 Kg of diced pork and it is delicious. Unfortunately I only have
>> Thai fragrant rice. But it does :-)
>
> One does with what one has sometimes.  We buy 20 lb bags of basmati here,
> never really seem to run low.  But I could see it mixing well with pork.
>

It is a surprise when you do. I buy my rice in 10 Kg bags as well.

>
> I'm not a big fan of cauliflower, but I do like potatoes in my curry.
>

Nor am I generally but it absorbs the flavour wonderfully. Try adding 
some florets about 15 minutes before the end of the cooking. Overcooking 
is OK too.

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	Stephen

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On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 09:59:10 +0100, Stephen wrote:

> On 06/06/2010 3:51 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 22:02:58 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I'm a bit scared of SLC
>>
>> Nah, don't be - it's the liberal part of the state. :-)
>>
> I'll take your word on that.

No need, it's pretty well documented - democrats hold (and have for 
years) positions as the mayor for SLC and for the county, lots of local 
"green" initiatives (including vehicles that run on alternative fuels for 
the city), and so on. :-)

>> LOL, sounds like our kind of place, though we do like personable wait
>> staff, but if the food's good and it's not a place tourists tend to
>> frequent, all the better. :-)
>>
>>
> One out of three isn’t good. o_O

My read of what you wrote was that tourists tend not to go there because 
of the service (or rather, they get thrown out if they make a stink that 
makes them sound like tourists).

> The staff are renowned for their rudeness and briskness. The restaurant
> must be in all the tourist books as it is hoaching with tourists in the
> season. But this adds to the fun and the queues. You either hate the
> place or love it.

OK, I misread, then. :-)

> I love it because it is the type of Chinese food I like and often the
> service is quick. So I can nip in for a meal and be out in about half an
> hour, if I am on my own. Look at the Wiki entry.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wong_Kei The New World in Gerrard Place is
> maybe a bit more up market. If you like dim sum they do “yum cha” until
> 6 pm. With the dim sum being served from trolleys and the greeters
> wearing cheongsam. The food is good and the price for central London is
> reasonable.

That sounds very good. :-)

>>> A deal :-D
>>
>> You got it.  Now to find the cash for the trip. :-)
>>
> Try to come off season, it is cheeper but wet and cold :-)

The last two times have been off-season, and we really enjoyed it.  But 
if we're relocating, we also need to spend a little time there during the 
season as well. :)

>>> Well if it was Glasgow then the chances were he was drunk and …
>>
>> Indeed, I remember parts of my trip to Glasgow.  Good thing we took
>> photos. ;-)
>>
> You got out alive? What a good native guide you had. ;-)

But of course; though I don't know if our friends we went with count as 
natives to Glasgow; certainly to the UK, but not Glasgow. :-)

>>>> Ooooh, don't think I've had that before (pork obviously isn't often
>>>> used, but you know that<G>).
>>>
> Fusion :-)

Yeah.  I can't remember which show it was now, but on a cooking show 
someone had to create a new Indian-style dish, and he wasn't sure what 
kind of meat to use; he remembered something about beef, but didn't know 
about pork, so he selected that.  Even still, I think he came out ahead.

> It is a surprise when you do. I buy my rice in 10 Kg bags as well.

It sure is - that's definitely the way to buy it.  It keeps very well as 
long as it's a cool, dry place.

>> I'm not a big fan of cauliflower, but I do like potatoes in my curry.
>>
> Nor am I generally but it absorbs the flavour wonderfully. Try adding
> some florets about 15 minutes before the end of the cooking. Overcooking
> is OK too.

I'll keep that in mind. :)

Jim

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On 06/06/2010 7:20 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 09:59:10 +0100, Stephen wrote:

>>>> I'm a bit scared of SLC
>>>
>>> Nah, don't be - it's the liberal part of the state. :-)
>>>
>> I'll take your word on that.
>
> No need, it's pretty well documented - democrats hold (and have for
> years) positions as the mayor for SLC and for the county,

+1 point

< lots of local
> "green" initiatives (including vehicles that run on alternative fuels for
> the city),

-1 point (I worked for oil companies for almost 20 years) :-P

>
>>> LOL, sounds like our kind of place, though we do like personable wait
>>> staff, but if the food's good and it's not a place tourists tend to
>>> frequent, all the better. :-)
>>>
>>>
>> One out of three isn’t good. o_O
>
> My read of what you wrote was that tourists tend not to go there because
> of the service (or rather, they get thrown out if they make a stink that
> makes them sound like tourists).
>

The number of overseas tourists last year was 14.1 million and the total 
overnight-stay visitors was 27 million. Not all of them visited the Wong 
Kei (Mr Wong’s shop) ;-)
I imagine a lot don’t go more than once. Although, I recommended it to a 
Chinese Australian who came on holiday and he ate there 10 times in a 
week. The price might have had something to do with it. ;-)


>> The staff are renowned for their rudeness and briskness. The restaurant
>> must be in all the tourist books as it is hoaching with tourists in the
>> season. But this adds to the fun and the queues. You either hate the
>> place or love it.
>
> OK, I misread, then. :-)

I may have miss-writ.

>> I love it because it is the type of Chinese food I like and often the
>> service is quick. So I can nip in for a meal and be out in about half an
>> hour, if I am on my own. Look at the Wiki entry.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wong_Kei The New World in Gerrard Place is
>> maybe a bit more up market. If you like dim sum they do “yum cha” until
>> 6 pm. With the dim sum being served from trolleys and the greeters
>> wearing cheongsam. The food is good and the price for central London is
>> reasonable.
>
> That sounds very good. :-)
>

It is if you can eat Hong Kong style food. For instance in the scramble 
egg rice the egg is barely cooked.

>> Try to come off season, it is cheaper but wet and cold :-)
>
> The last two times have been off-season, and we really enjoyed it.  But
> if we're relocating, we also need to spend a little time there during the
> season as well. :)
>

No, then it is full of tourists and hot. Off season is best. :-)

>> You got out alive? What a good native guide you had. ;-)
>
> But of course; though I don't know if our friends we went with count as
> natives to Glasgow; certainly to the UK, but not Glasgow. :-)
>

:-)

>>>>> Ooooh, don't think I've had that before (pork obviously isn't often
>>>>> used, but you know that<G>).
>>>>
>> Fusion :-)
>
> Yeah.  I can't remember which show it was now, but on a cooking show
> someone had to create a new Indian-style dish, and he wasn't sure what
> kind of meat to use; he remembered something about beef, but didn't know
> about pork, so he selected that.  Even still, I think he came out ahead.
>

Some people think it is an unclean meat. They don’t know what they are 
missing.

>> Nor am I generally but it absorbs the flavour wonderfully. Try adding
>> some florets about 15 minutes before the end of the cooking. Overcooking
>> is OK too.
>
> I'll keep that in mind. :)
>

Actually par boiling them first is best.

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	Stephen

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On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 20:21:46 +0100, Stephen wrote:

> On 06/06/2010 7:20 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 09:59:10 +0100, Stephen wrote:
> 
>>>>> I'm a bit scared of SLC
>>>>
>>>> Nah, don't be - it's the liberal part of the state. :-)
>>>>
>>> I'll take your word on that.
>>
>> No need, it's pretty well documented - democrats hold (and have for
>> years) positions as the mayor for SLC and for the county,
> 
> +1 point
> 
> < lots of local
>> "green" initiatives (including vehicles that run on alternative fuels
>> for the city),
> 
> -1 point (I worked for oil companies for almost 20 years) :-P

Surely not BP, no?  If so, you might be buying the first round. ;-)

But in terms of 'liberal' point of view, green energy is a pretty good 
sign, don't you think?

> The number of overseas tourists last year was 14.1 million and the total
> overnight-stay visitors was 27 million. Not all of them visited the Wong
> Kei (Mr Wong’s shop) ;-)

LOL

> I imagine a lot don’t go more than once. Although, I recommended it to a
> Chinese Australian who came on holiday and he ate there 10 times in a
> week. The price might have had something to do with it. ;-)

I imagine it's also popular with student visitors. :-)

>> OK, I misread, then. :-)
> 
> I may have miss-writ.

<Stephen Colbert>I accept your apology, sir</Stephen Colbert>

> It is if you can eat Hong Kong style food. For instance in the scramble
> egg rice the egg is barely cooked.

Might work for me, or it could end up being a texture thing.

>> The last two times have been off-season, and we really enjoyed it.  But
>> if we're relocating, we also need to spend a little time there during
>> the season as well. :)
>>
> No, then it is full of tourists and hot. Off season is best. :-)

Well, "hot" to you is different than "hot" to me.  It's 82F here right 
now, and we're supposed to hit 90F by mid-week.

I guess spring is over. <sigh>

>>>>>> Ooooh, don't think I've had that before (pork obviously isn't often
>>>>>> used, but you know that<G>).
>>>>>
>>> Fusion :-)
>>
>> Yeah.  I can't remember which show it was now, but on a cooking show
>> someone had to create a new Indian-style dish, and he wasn't sure what
>> kind of meat to use; he remembered something about beef, but didn't
>> know about pork, so he selected that.  Even still, I think he came out
>> ahead.
>>
>>
> Some people think it is an unclean meat. They don’t know what they are
> missing.

Well, it tends to be thought of as such for religious reasons, so it 
either becomes "throw away my religion and religious traditions" or eat 
it.  Generally; I know a guy who is ostensibly Jewish who likes the 
occasional bacon sandwich (made with the real thing, not turkey bacon).

>>> Nor am I generally but it absorbs the flavour wonderfully. Try adding
>>> some florets about 15 minutes before the end of the cooking.
>>> Overcooking is OK too.
>>
>> I'll keep that in mind. :)
>>
>>
> Actually par boiling them first is best.

Hmm, I could see that working.

Jim

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On 07/06/2010 5:37 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:

>> <  lots of local
>>> "green" initiatives (including vehicles that run on alternative fuels
>>> for the city),
>>
>> -1 point (I worked for oil companies for almost 20 years) :-P
>
> Surely not BP, no?  If so, you might be buying the first round. ;-)
>

No, I worked for Conoco for 12 years and for 4 years I contracted for 
other operators.

> But in terms of 'liberal' point of view, green energy is a pretty good
> sign, don't you think?
>

Yes, :-D
I transferred my orniness to this thread. ;-)

>
>> I imagine a lot don’t go more than once. Although, I recommended it to a
>> Chinese Australian who came on holiday and he ate there 10 times in a
>> week. The price might have had something to do with it. ;-)
>
> I imagine it's also popular with student visitors. :-)
>

Yes, the average age is quite low if you don’t count the singletons.

>>> OK, I misread, then. :-)
>>
>> I may have miss-writ.
>
> <Stephen Colbert>I accept your apology, sir</Stephen Colbert>
>

Lost on me as we don't get Stephen Colbert here.

>> It is if you can eat Hong Kong style food. For instance in the scramble
>> egg rice the egg is barely cooked.
>
> Might work for me, or it could end up being a texture thing.
>

Slimy is a description, it goes for “ho fun” too.

>>>
>> No, then it is full of tourists and hot. Off season is best. :-)
>
> Well, "hot" to you is different than "hot" to me.  It's 82F here right
> now, and we're supposed to hit 90F by mid-week.
>

I thought that as I was writing it.

> I guess spring is over.<sigh>
>

Spring has sprung,



the grass has ris’,
I wonder where the birdie is?

There he is up in the sky,
He dropped some whitewash in my eye!

I‘m alright, I won't cry,
I'm just glad that cows can't fly!


>> Some people think it is an unclean meat. They don’t know what they are
>> missing.
>
> Well, it tends to be thought of as such for religious reasons, so it
> either becomes "throw away my religion and religious traditions" or eat
> it.  Generally; I know a guy who is ostensibly Jewish who likes the
> occasional bacon sandwich (made with the real thing, not turkey bacon).
>

Yeah, bacon butties are the Devil's invention.


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	Stephen

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On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 09:27:09 +0100, Stephen wrote:

> On 07/06/2010 5:37 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> 
>>> <  lots of local
>>>> "green" initiatives (including vehicles that run on alternative fuels
>>>> for the city),
>>>
>>> -1 point (I worked for oil companies for almost 20 years) :-P
>>
>> Surely not BP, no?  If so, you might be buying the first round. ;-)
>>
> No, I worked for Conoco for 12 years and for 4 years I contracted for
> other operators.

I see - well, then, I guess the first round's mine. ;-)

>> But in terms of 'liberal' point of view, green energy is a pretty good
>> sign, don't you think?
>>
>>
> Yes, :-D
> I transferred my orniness to this thread. ;-)

So I noticed. ;-)

>>>> OK, I misread, then. :-)
>>>
>>> I may have miss-writ.
>>
>> <Stephen Colbert>I accept your apology, sir</Stephen Colbert>
>>
> Lost on me as we don't get Stephen Colbert here.

It's a common tactic in his interviews (he is a satirical commentator on 
current events, and the last 7 minutes of the show includes an interview 
where he usually tries to wind up the guest).

>>> It is if you can eat Hong Kong style food. For instance in the
>>> scramble egg rice the egg is barely cooked.
>>
>> Might work for me, or it could end up being a texture thing.
>>
> Slimy is a description, it goes for “ho fun” too.

Yeah, "slimy" often kicks the gag reflex here.  But not always.

>>> No, then it is full of tourists and hot. Off season is best. :-)
>>
>> Well, "hot" to you is different than "hot" to me.  It's 82F here right
>> now, and we're supposed to hit 90F by mid-week.
>>
> I thought that as I was writing it.

So what do you consider "hot"?  That'll give me an idea. :)

> the grass has ris’,
> I wonder where the birdie is?
> 
> There he is up in the sky,
> He dropped some whitewash in my eye!
> 
> I‘m alright, I won't cry,
> I'm just glad that cows can't fly!

LOL

>>> Some people think it is an unclean meat. They don’t know what they are
>>> missing.
>>
>> Well, it tends to be thought of as such for religious reasons, so it
>> either becomes "throw away my religion and religious traditions" or eat
>> it.  Generally; I know a guy who is ostensibly Jewish who likes the
>> occasional bacon sandwich (made with the real thing, not turkey bacon).
>>
>>
> Yeah, bacon butties are the Devil's invention.

LOL. Bacon, though, is mana. ;-)

Jim

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On 07/06/2010 3:28 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 09:27:09 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>
>> On 07/06/2010 5:37 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>
>>>> <   lots of local
>>>>> "green" initiatives (including vehicles that run on alternative fuels
>>>>> for the city),
>>>>
>>>> -1 point (I worked for oil companies for almost 20 years) :-P
>>>
>>> Surely not BP, no?  If so, you might be buying the first round. ;-)
>>>
>> No, I worked for Conoco for 12 years and for 4 years I contracted for
>> other operators.
>
> I see - well, then, I guess the first round's mine. ;-)
>

But I was on BP's Thistle platform for a trip.

What a mess it was. <Grrr>

>>> But in terms of 'liberal' point of view, green energy is a pretty good
>>> sign, don't you think?
>>>
>>>
>> Yes, :-D
>> I transferred my orniness to this thread. ;-)
>
> So I noticed. ;-)
>

Easy Peasy :-)

>>>>> OK, I misread, then. :-)
>>>>
>>>> I may have miss-writ.
>>>
>>> <Stephen Colbert>I accept your apology, sir</Stephen Colbert>
>>>
>> Lost on me as we don't get Stephen Colbert here.
>
> It's a common tactic in his interviews (he is a satirical commentator on
> current events, and the last 7 minutes of the show includes an interview
> where he usually tries to wind up the guest).
>

I’ve seen clips of his show but you noticed that I didn’t fall into your 
trap :-P
So I accept you apology in advance.

>>>> It is if you can eat Hong Kong style food. For instance in the
>>>> scramble egg rice the egg is barely cooked.
>>>
>>> Might work for me, or it could end up being a texture thing.
>>>
>> Slimy is a description, it goes for “ho fun” too.
>
> Yeah, "slimy" often kicks the gag reflex here.  But not always.
>

It does for most Westerners :-)

>>>> No, then it is full of tourists and hot. Off season is best. :-)
>>>
>>> Well, "hot" to you is different than "hot" to me.  It's 82F here right
>>> now, and we're supposed to hit 90F by mid-week.
>>>
>> I thought that as I was writing it.
>
> So what do you consider "hot"?  That'll give me an idea. :)
>

75 F is hot for most of us Brits but since I've worked in the subtropics 
anything over 90 F is too hot for my comfort. I did find 104 F was 
tolerable if I moved slowly and kept out of the sun. And I onced worked 
for half an hour at a time at 210 F when I was offshore.



>> Yeah, bacon butties are the Devil's invention.
>
> LOL. Bacon, though, is mana. ;-)
>

You mean that the Israelites were eating bacon during their travels in 
the desert?

You could knock be down with a feather.


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	Stephen

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On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 18:49:34 +0100, Stephen wrote:

>>> No, I worked for Conoco for 12 years and for 4 years I contracted for
>>> other operators.
>>
>> I see - well, then, I guess the first round's mine. ;-)
>>
> But I was on BP's Thistle platform for a trip.

Hmmm, might have to reconsider that first round, then. ;-)

> What a mess it was. <Grrr>

I was watching something this weekend that talked about the number of 
safety incidents for various oil companies over the past 3-4 years.  Most 
of them were in the < 10 category.  BP?  More than *700*.

Ouch.

> I’ve seen clips of his show but you noticed that I didn’t fall into your
> trap :-P
> So I accept you apology in advance.

LOL, well played, sir. ;-)

>>> Slimy is a description, it goes for “ho fun” too.
>>
>> Yeah, "slimy" often kicks the gag reflex here.  But not always.
>>
> It does for most Westerners :-)

Interesting, I didn't know that.  I thought it was "just" me (not as in 
"I'm the only one" but "I'm one of a small number").

>> So what do you consider "hot"?  That'll give me an idea. :)
>>
> 75 F is hot for most of us Brits but since I've worked in the subtropics
> anything over 90 F is too hot for my comfort. I did find 104 F was
> tolerable if I moved slowly and kept out of the sun. And I onced worked
> for half an hour at a time at 210 F when I was offshore.

75 F is very comfortable for me.  In fact, that's what it is outside here 
right now.  Warmer than that depends on the humidity and available 
drinking water.  I did some work in Arizona in 106 F (server room setup 
but the building wasn't finished yet and the AC wasn't installed, much 
less the windows), and it was OK, but took a lot of drink with me 
(Gatorade, as I recall).

But I've seen > 100 F in 80%+ humidity and that's just miserable.

>>> Yeah, bacon butties are the Devil's invention.
>>
>> LOL. Bacon, though, is mana. ;-)
>>
>>
> You mean that the Israelites were eating bacon during their travels in
> the desert?
> 
> You could knock be down with a feather.

LOL.

<tap>

Jim

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On 07/06/2010 7:47 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:

>>> I see - well, then, I guess the first round's mine. ;-)
>>>
>> But I was on BP's Thistle platform for a trip.
>
> Hmmm, might have to reconsider that first round, then. ;-)
>

As long as you buy the lst one ;_)

>> What a mess it was.<Grrr>
>
> I was watching something this weekend that talked about the number of
> safety incidents for various oil companies over the past 3-4 years.  Most
> of them were in the<  10 category.  BP?  More than *700*.
>
> Ouch.
>

I'm glad it's called BP instead if British Petroleum, now.

>> I’ve seen clips of his show but you noticed that I didn’t fall into your
>> trap :-P
>> So I accept you apology in advance.
>
> LOL, well played, sir. ;-)
>

<Bows>

>>>> Slimy is a description, it goes for “ho fun” too.
>>>
>>> Yeah, "slimy" often kicks the gag reflex here.  But not always.
>>>
>> It does for most Westerners :-)
>
> Interesting, I didn't know that.  I thought it was "just" me (not as in
> "I'm the only one" but "I'm one of a small number").
>

IMHO :-)

>>> So what do you consider "hot"?  That'll give me an idea. :)
>>>
>> 75 F is hot for most of us Brits but since I've worked in the subtropics
>> anything over 90 F is too hot for my comfort. I did find 104 F was
>> tolerable if I moved slowly and kept out of the sun. And I onced worked
>> for half an hour at a time at 210 F when I was offshore.
>
> 75 F is very comfortable for me.  In fact, that's what it is outside here
> right now.  Warmer than that depends on the humidity and available
> drinking water.  I did some work in Arizona in 106 F (server room setup
> but the building wasn't finished yet and the AC wasn't installed, much
> less the windows), and it was OK, but took a lot of drink with me
> (Gatorade, as I recall).
>

Yes you need to drink. Which raises another gripe of mine. People 
carrying water bottles in temperate climates as if they are in the tropics.

> But I've seen>  100 F in 80%+ humidity and that's just miserable.
>

One job I had (on BP's Thistle) was to keep an eye on the production 
instrumentation, when the telemetry had broken. It was about 40 C (104 
F) and the humidity was very high. We must have drunk a gallon of water 
an hour.


>> You could knock be down with a feather.
>
> LOL.
>
> <tap>
>

:-D

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	Stephen

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On 07/06/2010 8:26 PM, Stephen wrote:
> As long as you buy the lst one ;_)

Last one, I meant.

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