Does anyone else have trouble steering the cars in this game? So far, it's 
not too difficult, except that I can't steer for a damn, so I can't finish 
the car chase stuff. It feels like the analog joystick is playing digital, 
and every tiny touch is an attempted U-turn.

Do I have something configured wrong? Or is it just me?

I don't have trouble with the analog aiming on other games.

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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Does anyone else have trouble steering the cars in this game? So far, it's 
> not too difficult, except that I can't steer for a damn, so I can't finish 
> the car chase stuff. It feels like the analog joystick is playing digital, 
> and every tiny touch is an attempted U-turn.

  Kind of reminds me of Driv3r. I cannot finish even the *first* introductory
level because it's harder than the final boss in the hardest game you can
imagine, at the hardest difficulty setting.

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Warp wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> Does anyone else have trouble steering the cars in this game? So far, it's 
>> not too difficult, except that I can't steer for a damn, so I can't finish 
>> the car chase stuff. It feels like the analog joystick is playing digital, 
>> and every tiny touch is an attempted U-turn.
> 
>   Kind of reminds me of Driv3r. I cannot finish even the *first* introductory
> level because it's harder than the final boss in the hardest game you can
> imagine, at the hardest difficulty setting.

Hey, I've got that one. Have you gone hill-hopping in Nice? There's a 
way into the background hills, where you can hit some "null 
zones"--places where the graphics are not refreshed. The pixels just 
stack up. Then there's bomb-hopping, where you launch a grenade next to 
your vehicle and step into it real quick, to get up on roofs. With 
invincibility on of course ;)

Parallel lines in a good one too, but the traffic is even thicker than 
Driv3r. Some very frustrating missions in that one :S

Sam

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>> Does anyone else have trouble steering the cars in this game? So far, 
>> it's
>> not too difficult, except that I can't steer for a damn, so I can't 
>> finish
>> the car chase stuff. It feels like the analog joystick is playing 
>> digital,
>> and every tiny touch is an attempted U-turn.

I hate using analog sticks on consoles for car games, it just seems stupid 
to map 1000 degrees of steering wheel turn onto 90 degrees of a tiny stick. 
In most cases I even prefer using digital buttons, as at least behind them 
is some algorithm to progressively steer based on the digital input.

>  Kind of reminds me of Driv3r. I cannot finish even the *first* 
> introductory
> level because it's harder than the final boss in the hardest game you can
> imagine, at the hardest difficulty setting.

IME in such games the introductory level is to make sure you avoid exactly 
what Darren mentioned.  It forces you to have at least have basic car 
control skills before attempting the main part of the game.

I don't know about Driv3r, but on the original Driver you started in a 
garage basement and had to do so many stunts within a time limit before you 
could progress.  It really is worth spending the time learning how to do 
those moves because it will make the rest of the game far more enjoyable.

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"scott" <sco### [at] scottcom> wrote:
> I don't know about Driv3r, but on the original Driver you started in a
> garage basement and had to do so many stunts within a time limit before you
> could progress.  It really is worth spending the time learning how to do
> those moves because it will make the rest of the game far more enjoyable.

I remember that. I agree you need the skills to get the most out of the game,
but there were too few rewards to make me stick at Driver, and I got bored of it
eventually. In GTA there are the driving/flying schools etc (at least in
previous ones - not sure about 4) which do the same job, but with plenty of
variation. Not to mention having other things to do around the map, so you can
drive there and get implicit practice... and if you get too infuriated you can
just go drive up some streets the wrong way to cool off!

(why did they call the most recent one 4, by the way? It's at least the 6th game
to bear the name)

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> I remember that. I agree you need the skills to get the most out of the 
> game,
> but there were too few rewards to make me stick at Driver, and I got bored 
> of it
> eventually.

Yes me too, I just used to drive around the maps powersliding (it was so 
easy to control the slides).  I also started playing about with the car and 
level scripts (they were just plain text) to get faster cars and no-damage.

> In GTA there are the driving/flying schools etc (at least in
> previous ones - not sure about 4) which do the same job, but with plenty 
> of
> variation. Not to mention having other things to do around the map, so you 
> can
> drive there and get implicit practice... and if you get too infuriated you 
> can
> just go drive up some streets the wrong way to cool off!

Or get out of your car and fire rockets at police cars :-)

> (why did they call the most recent one 4, by the way? It's at least the 
> 6th game
> to bear the name)

Maybe all the "3" ones used the same (or a similar) game engine?  IDK. I 
have GTA 4 sat at home waiting to be played...

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"scott" <sco### [at] scottcom> wrote:
> > I remember that. I agree you need the skills to get the most out of the
> > game,
> > but there were too few rewards to make me stick at Driver, and I got bored
> > of it
> > eventually.
>
> Yes me too, I just used to drive around the maps powersliding (it was so
> easy to control the slides).  I also started playing about with the car and
> level scripts (they were just plain text) to get faster cars and no-damage.

Um, I meant, I never got out of the garage! I was initially reluctant to try GTA
after that, I thought it meant I was crap at all driving games :)

> > drive there and get implicit practice... and if you get too infuriated you
> > can
> > just go drive up some streets the wrong way to cool off!
>
> Or get out of your car and fire rockets at police cars :-)

My favourite in GTA:SA was to park across the freeway and watch the ensuing
pile-ups from a safe distance.

> Maybe all the "3" ones used the same (or a similar) game engine?  IDK. I
> have GTA 4 sat at home waiting to be played...

Yeah I expect you're right. Ditto for me with GTA 4...

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> Um, I meant, I never got out of the garage! I was initially reluctant to 
> try GTA
> after that, I thought it meant I was crap at all driving games :)

Oh ok - don't worry you didn't miss much compared to GTA.  IIRC Driver came 
out before GTA3, so it seemed to be the only 3D driving game where you could 
really just drive around wherever you wanted on a huge map.

> My favourite in GTA:SA was to park across the freeway and watch the 
> ensuing
> pile-ups from a safe distance.

Or to hide at the side of the road and try and shoot out the tyres of 
passing cars (or the drivers' heads)...

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"scott" <sco### [at] scottcom> wrote:
> > My favourite in GTA:SA was to park across the freeway and watch the
> > ensuing
> > pile-ups from a safe distance.
>
> Or to hide at the side of the road and try and shoot out the tyres of
> passing cars (or the drivers' heads)...

Or, better yet, the fuel cap! Driving the wrong way in a super taxi was good -
fire the nitro, get up to speed, then do a hydraulic-shock hop just before you
hit something. You could get multiple backflips if you hit things just right!

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scott <sco### [at] scottcom> wrote:
> I don't know about Driv3r, but on the original Driver you started in a 
> garage basement and had to do so many stunts within a time limit before you 
> could progress.  It really is worth spending the time learning how to do 
> those moves because it will make the rest of the game far more enjoyable.

  Driv3r has nothing to do with the first game. In the first game the
controls are good and polished, the car responsive and the level of
difficulty acceptable. I own the first Driver game and I have played it
through.

  Driv3r is completely unplayable. I cannot pass even the first level.

http://warp.povusers.org/GameReviews/driv3r.html

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                                                          - Warp

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