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>> I... I have no idea... I don't know what games exist for PS.
>
> Damnit you need a console, get a PS3 and The Orange Box and we can go
> TF2ing together :-P
Heh. I know from experience that the controller on the PS3 is virtually
unusable.
> No need to worry about system specs
I'm usually not.
> or making sure your anti-virus programme doesn't suddenly
> decide to do a system scan while you're playing
I don't have any AV software.
> (hey and no viruses either)
Same here. ;-)
> 5-10 second boot up to menu
That's worth having. (Ah, but how long to load an actual game? ;-)
> HD output
My PC can output resolutions so high my monitor can't handle it. :-P
> and a blu-ray player...
Do you happen to know if anything has been released on BluRay yet?
>> (Or for PC, actually.)
>
> Heck I'm almost solely into PS3 now and I still know what's being
> released on the PC and the 360.
What I _do_ know is that Abe's Oddessy and Abe's Exodus are on PC, but
the next one is _only_ available for Xbox. :-(
>> I just like making them shoot each other and stuff. Because I'm like
>> that... (And also shooting their slogs. Heh.)
>
> I like the little chuckle they can make.
"Here boy..." POW! POW! POW! POW! "Muhuhuhuh!"
I am a sick, sick individual...
>> Not sure which part you mean.
>
> The opening sequence. Almost old school in the expectations that you
> have read the manual and thus have no real requirement for a control
> tutorial.
The opening sequence is pretty damned easy, and the signs walk you
through _all_ the controls. Even the PC ones. ;-)
>> (Well, except for the controls. Arrow keys to move, shift to run,
>> space to jump... and ENTER to roll??)
>
> Ah yes console joypad for teh win. What are the whistle codes mapped to?
7 is the high whistle and 8 is the low whistle. (Notice how they mapped
them the wrong way round to confuse expert keyboard players such as myself.)
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And lo on Mon, 08 Sep 2008 16:38:57 +0100, Invisible <voi### [at] dev null> did
spake, saying:
>>> I... I have no idea... I don't know what games exist for PS.
>> Damnit you need a console, get a PS3 and The Orange Box and we can go
>> TF2ing together :-P
>
> Heh. I know from experience that the controller on the PS3 is virtually
> unusable.
So unusable my 6 year old cousin can play a game with it despite it being
too large for his hands. Ah come on One Of Us, Join Us, Forsake the Mouse
and pick up the Joypad.
>> No need to worry about system specs
>
> I'm usually not.
Ever again mwhahahaha; actually I tell a lie you need to have enough HD
space to install the game. Of course you can just pop the drive and
install a larger capacity one if it does get full. Heck it'll even talk to
WMP11 so you can dump your photos on the PC and then play them back on the
TV.
>> or making sure your anti-virus programme doesn't suddenly decide to do
>> a system scan while you're playing
>
> I don't have any AV software.
>
>> (hey and no viruses either)
>
> Same here. ;-)
Okay.
>> 5-10 second boot up to menu
>
> That's worth having. (Ah, but how long to load an actual game? ;-)
Ah that depends on the game, hmm wandering through YouTube I see Rainbow
Six Vega 2 has a load time of 45 seconds from start to menu and letting
all the adverts play.
>> HD output
>
> My PC can output resolutions so high my monitor can't handle it. :-P
Ah but do you have a 40" widescreen LCD monitor? :-)
>> and a blu-ray player...
>
> Do you happen to know if anything has been released on BluRay yet?
There's been a few things released, Amazon lists 1,945 results for Blu-ray
though that includes a lot of pre-release stuff so let's say about 1,000
films. They're still too damn expensive at the moment compared to DVD
though, even the 'old' ones have only dropped to the same price as the
original DVD price whereas the DVD drops to half+ its price.
>>> (Or for PC, actually.)
>> Heck I'm almost solely into PS3 now and I still know what's being
>> released on the PC and the 360.
>
> What I _do_ know is that Abe's Oddessy and Abe's Exodus are on PC, but
> the next one is _only_ available for Xbox. :-(
Yeah after Exoddus they switched over to XBox odd they didn't release it
for Windows too given the similarity in platforms.
>>> I just like making them shoot each other and stuff. Because I'm like
>>> that... (And also shooting their slogs. Heh.)
>> I like the little chuckle they can make.
>
> "Here boy..." POW! POW! POW! POW! "Muhuhuhuh!"
>
> I am a sick, sick individual...
>
>>> Not sure which part you mean.
>> The opening sequence. Almost old school in the expectations that you
>> have read the manual and thus have no real requirement for a control
>> tutorial.
>
> The opening sequence is pretty damned easy, and the signs walk you
> through _all_ the controls. Even the PC ones. ;-)
But you are being chased.
>>> (Well, except for the controls. Arrow keys to move, shift to run,
>>> space to jump... and ENTER to roll??)
>> Ah yes console joypad for teh win. What are the whistle codes mapped
>> to?
>
> 7 is the high whistle and 8 is the low whistle. (Notice how they mapped
> them the wrong way round to confuse expert keyboard players such as
> myself.)
Heh.
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Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> >> I... I have no idea... I don't know what games exist for PS.
> >
> > Damnit you need a console, get a PS3 and The Orange Box and we can go
> > TF2ing together :-P
> Heh. I know from experience that the controller on the PS3 is virtually
> unusable.
Any gamepad is unusable for playing FPS games. Gamepads and FPS just
don't mix. It's a horrid idea to begin with.
Yes, I *do* have personal experience of this.
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>> Heh. I know from experience that the controller on the PS3 is
>> virtually unusable.
>
> So unusable my 6 year old cousin can play a game with it despite it
> being too large for his hands. Ah come on One Of Us, Join Us, Forsake
> the Mouse and pick up the Joypad.
NEVER! :-P
>>> HD output
>>
>> My PC can output resolutions so high my monitor can't handle it. :-P
>
> Ah but do you have a 40" widescreen LCD monitor? :-)
No. My bedroom is significantly too small to fit one. :-P
My sister has one though. I find that having the screen so far away
means you can't see the detail quite so well. It *does* look impressive
though. Mind you, Benny has a 25" LCD that looks pretty amazing. He
claims it's 1900x1600 or something absurd...
>> What I _do_ know is that Abe's Oddessy and Abe's Exodus are on PC, but
>> the next one is _only_ available for Xbox. :-(
>
> Yeah after Exoddus they switched over to XBox odd they didn't release it
> for Windows too given the similarity in platforms.
Exclusivity contract, much? ;-)
>> The opening sequence is pretty damned easy, and the signs walk you
>> through _all_ the controls. Even the PC ones. ;-)
>
> But you are being chased.
Not in the PC version.
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Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> He claims it's 1900x1600 or something absurd...
Given that I have been using 1600x1200 for something like 5 years, that
doesn't sound so absurd.
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>> He claims it's 1900x1600 or something absurd...
>
> Given that I have been using 1600x1200 for something like 5 years, that
> doesn't sound so absurd.
Yeah, but LCD monitors usually only go up to 1024x768, or maybe
1280x1024 if it's expensive.
It looked impressively sharp though. CRT has the advantage that it works
properly at *every* resolution, but I think LCD has now reached the
point where it actually looks sharper. I'm thinking about getting myself
an LCD at some point. However... having just spent a whole heap of
money, I guess it won't be any time soon...! o_O
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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>
> Yeah, but LCD monitors usually only go up to 1024x768, or maybe
> 1280x1024 if it's expensive.
All decent 24" Wide-LCD's have native resolution of 1920x1200 (which,
with 60Hz refresh rate, has lower pixel clock than 1600x1200@85hz).
Heck, even all decent 22" Wide-LCD's have native resolution of 1680x1050.
Personally, I'd miss 4:3 -monitor if I was forced out of CRT on my
desktop. LCD's, especially wide ones, take an incredible amount of
desk-space with proper resolutions, when 19" CRT can take 1600x1200 easily.
> It looked impressively sharp though. CRT has the advantage that it works
> properly at *every* resolution, but I think LCD has now reached the
> point where it actually looks sharper. I'm thinking about getting myself
> an LCD at some point. However... having just spent a whole heap of
> money, I guess it won't be any time soon...! o_O
Check the panel type and don't get TN ;).
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And lo on Mon, 08 Sep 2008 19:17:17 +0100, Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull>
did spake, saying:
>>> Heh. I know from experience that the controller on the PS3 is
>>> virtually unusable.
>> So unusable my 6 year old cousin can play a game with it despite it
>> being too large for his hands. Ah come on One Of Us, Join Us, Forsake
>> the Mouse and pick up the Joypad.
>
> NEVER! :-P
I'll remember that if you ever post how much Wii Sports is tiring you out
:-P
Okay taking Warp's view into account I'd be the first to agree that the
mouse is a better aiming mechanism for FPS games and it's really annoying
that despite the fact the PS3 supports both USB mice and keyboards very
few (as in only one) games seems to support them.
As for usability sure if you're trying to do a long range snipe of
someone's head tweaking the sticks is annoying, likewise 180 degree
rotations, but for the most part you do get used to the sticks.
>>>> HD output
>>>
>>> My PC can output resolutions so high my monitor can't handle it. :-P
>> Ah but do you have a 40" widescreen LCD monitor? :-)
>
> No. My bedroom is significantly too small to fit one. :-P
How about a 32"? Of course it should be hooked up to the main television
so everyone can join in.
> My sister has one though. I find that having the screen so far away
> means you can't see the detail quite so well. It *does* look impressive
> though. Mind you, Benny has a 25" LCD that looks pretty amazing. He
> claims it's 1900x1600 or something absurd...
That does make me laugh - look at all the detail my 1080p screen picks up,
oh but you have to sit further away from it.
>>> What I _do_ know is that Abe's Oddessy and Abe's Exodus are on PC, but
>>> the next one is _only_ available for Xbox. :-(
>> Yeah after Exoddus they switched over to XBox odd they didn't release
>> it for Windows too given the similarity in platforms.
>
> Exclusivity contract, much? ;-)
Yep must have tied themselves to Microsoft :-P
>>> The opening sequence is pretty damned easy, and the signs walk you
>>> through _all_ the controls. Even the PC ones. ;-)
>> But you are being chased.
>
> Not in the PC version.
Hmm I recall "Run Abe Run" a flick screen and a wall you have to clamber
up with a squig following you.
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>> NEVER! :-P
>
> I'll remember that if you ever post how much Wii Sports is tiring you
> out :-P
My hands can't withstand the G-forces. o_O
> As for usability sure if you're trying to do a long range snipe of
> someone's head tweaking the sticks is annoying, likewise 180 degree
> rotations, but for the most part you do get used to the sticks.
I'd imagine for spinning round on the spot, the sticks are probably
easier. (I constantly run out of desk space. Do you have ANY IDEA how
much stuff is in my bedroom?) But playing CoD4 it was just impossible to
hit anything. :-S
>>>> The opening sequence is pretty damned easy, and the signs walk you
>>>> through _all_ the controls. Even the PC ones. ;-)
>>> But you are being chased.
>>
>> Not in the PC version.
>
> Hmm I recall "Run Abe Run" a flick screen and a wall you have to clamber
> up with a squig following you.
In the PC version, the game starts, and you casually walk around until
the first ledge. As soon as you haul yourself up it, a Slig rushes in.
But by then you're out of the way. So unless you climb back down again,
you're really in no danger. (The Slig, however, is liable to get
possessed and blown up. Muhuhuhuh!)
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And lo on Tue, 09 Sep 2008 11:35:05 +0100, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> did
spake, saying:
>> As for usability sure if you're trying to do a long range snipe of
>> someone's head tweaking the sticks is annoying, likewise 180 degree
>> rotations, but for the most part you do get used to the sticks.
>
> I'd imagine for spinning round on the spot, the sticks are probably
> easier.
No, so much so that some games have a dedicated 180-turn button though 90°
movement can be quite quick. As I say it's the fiddly stuff that you wish
you had a mouse for. I might go so far to say that you shouldn't play
console FPS games the same way you play PC FPS games. Rather then jump out
of hiding and sweep your sights over the enemy bam bam; you need to adjust
to the fact that you're not quite as nimble and thus slow down a bit.
> (I constantly run out of desk space. Do you have ANY IDEA how much stuff
> is in my bedroom?)
I can well imagine it being taken up by large amounts of musical equipment.
> But playing CoD4 it was just impossible to hit anything. :-S
Ah yes just for fun here's a comparision video of CoD4 on PS3 and 360 -
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/27571.html oh and because you probably
haven't seen it http://www.gametrailers.com/player/38636.html currently a
PS3 exclusive.
>> Hmm I recall "Run Abe Run" a flick screen and a wall you have to
>> clamber up with a squig following you.
>
> In the PC version, the game starts, and you casually walk around until
> the first ledge. As soon as you haul yourself up it, a Slig rushes in.
> But by then you're out of the way. So unless you climb back down again,
> you're really in no danger. (The Slig, however, is liable to get
> possessed and blown up. Muhuhuhuh!)
Hmm I'm sure I got shot there.
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