On 7/5/2016 7:41 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 2-7-2016 16:11, Stephen wrote:
>> On 7/2/2016 12:15 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>> On 2-7-2016 11:40, Stephen wrote:
>>>> On 7/2/2016 8:09 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>>> damascene texture
>>>>
>>>> Not often you slip up with your English.
>>>> Damask. :-P
>>>
>>> It is confusing. Damask is certainly right, but damascene is also used
>>> in this context. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damascening and
>>> especially 'Damascene in Toledo, Spain'.
>>>
>>
>> True, true and true. But for cloth... ;)
>> My first thought on damascene is related to, "on the road to Damascus"
>> Checking up on my memory. I found the meaning of "damask cheek" as used
>> by Shakespeare. Rosy cheeked.
>
> You are absolutely right of course. 'Damask' should be used for cloth,
> damascene for inlay work, but do we know what Anthony intends to do? ;-)
>

Flock wallpaper is my guess.



>>
>>>>
>>>> I wonder if your texture can be combined with Rune's Fur Texture.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I should revisit Rune's texture to be sure, but I suppose it should be
>>> possible one way or another. I was thinking in the line of a contrast of
>>> strong and weak (micro-) normals controlled by the pigment_pattern.
>>>
>>
>> I like Rune's macro (attached). It is simple. :)
>>
>> I took a look at your code but since Bishop3d does not support
>> pigment_pattern. I tied myself in knots with the syntax in Ver 3·62.
>> I'll try again when I am not doing six things at the same time. Soon
>> come. :)
>>
>
> I am busy with something else now but I shall want to have a try too.
>

It is time to move on from Bishop3D. Bye bye old scenes.

Back to learning Blender.

-- 

Regards
     Stephen

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On 5-7-2016 10:07, Stephen wrote:
> It is time to move on from Bishop3D. Bye bye old scenes.
>
> Back to learning Blender.
>

That is not a bad idea at all.

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Thomas

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Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:

> It is time to move on from Bishop3D. Bye bye old scenes.
>
> Back to learning Blender.

I have recently discovered, though not yet had enough free, round tuits, to try
-

Breeze designer:
http://www.breezedesigner.com/breeze/download.aspx

Lionsnake modeler:
http://evilsnack.byethost22.com/lionsnake.htm?ckattempt=2

(just to throw this in here)
Arabeske:
http://www.wozzeck.net/arabeske/manual-export/povray-export.html

Plus there's the recently posted Infinity 3D modeler.

Maybe we ought to start a new thread to post links to POV-Ray compatible
utilities, as I am sure there are quite a few broken links, and always new
things to be discovered!

{Embrace the command-line, Stephen   ;) }

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On 05/07/16 14:23, Bald Eagle wrote:
<snip>
> 
> {Embrace the command-line, Stephen   ;) }
> 
> 
Whilst I agree with your sentiment, I have to say that that is not going
to happen until Microsoft releases its source code.

John
-- 
It's not about bravery.
It's about doing what I need to do to win

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On 7/5/2016 2:23 PM, Bald Eagle wrote:
> Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:
>
>> It is time to move on from Bishop3D. Bye bye old scenes.
>>
>> Back to learning Blender.
>
> I have recently discovered, though not yet had enough free, round tuits, to try
> -


Thanks for taking the time to look them up.

I had a quick look but they all came out of the Ark. Bishop3D is good 
but it is not maintained any more. It only has 3.6 syntax but it can 
import a large subset of it.

I think Blender is the best open source modeller about.
There are two plugins that export SDL so it is not all meshes and you 
can use PovRay textures. It just takes a long time to get competent with it.


>
> Breeze designer:
> http://www.breezedesigner.com/breeze/download.aspx
>

I think that this is a bit old. It talks about PovRay Ver 3


> Lionsnake modeler:
> http://evilsnack.byethost22.com/lionsnake.htm?ckattempt=2
>

Again this is old about 2010.

> (just to throw this in here)
> Arabeske:
> http://www.wozzeck.net/arabeske/manual-export/povray-export.html
>

Last updated Jan 2004



> Plus there's the recently posted Infinity 3D modeler.
>

Made me think that one. :)


> Maybe we ought to start a new thread to post links to POV-Ray compatible
> utilities, as I am sure there are quite a few broken links, and always new
> things to be discovered!
>
Is that a volunteer?
One pace forward!

> {Embrace the command-line, Stephen   ;) }
>
>

Away and play on a busy road. :-P

You will be telling me to get a computer that you boot up by stepping 
through switch registers.

Viva tomorrow! :)

-- 

Regards
     Stephen

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On 7/5/2016 2:49 PM, Doctor John wrote:
> On 05/07/16 14:23, Bald Eagle wrote:
> <snip>
>>
>> {Embrace the command-line, Stephen   ;) }
>>
>>
> Whilst I agree with your sentiment, I have to say that that is not going
> to happen until Microsoft releases its source code.
>

Whilst I agree in principle that old skills should not be lost.
I cannot remember the last time I had to knap a flint knife.

But if you can't keep up, stick to what you all know. ;)


-- 

Regards
     Stephen

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On 5-7-2016 15:23, Bald Eagle wrote:
> Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:
>
>> It is time to move on from Bishop3D. Bye bye old scenes.
>>
>> Back to learning Blender.
>
> I have recently discovered, though not yet had enough free, round tuits, to try
> -

That is the eternal problem we all struggle with ;-)

>
> Breeze designer:
> http://www.breezedesigner.com/breeze/download.aspx

Goodness! in the 1990's that was the very first modelling program I 
discovered, which brought me to POV-Ray in the first place, and before I 
discovered Moray.

>
> Lionsnake modeler:
> http://evilsnack.byethost22.com/lionsnake.htm?ckattempt=2

Never got round to that one.

>
> (just to throw this in here)
> Arabeske:
> http://www.wozzeck.net/arabeske/manual-export/povray-export.html

That is one I use once in a while for tiled surfaces.

>
> Plus there's the recently posted Infinity 3D modeler.

To be kept under scrutiny.

>
> Maybe we ought to start a new thread to post links to POV-Ray compatible
> utilities, as I am sure there are quite a few broken links, and always new
> things to be discovered!

Not a bad idea.

-- 
Thomas

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On 2-7-2016 1:10, Anthony D. Baye wrote:
> Can anybody give ideas for a process which would simulate flocking?
>
> Something like you might use on a diorama.
>

Another technique which might be very successful in this context would 
be the use of eval_pigment() in combination with trace(), to place 
objects on a height_field or an isosurface.

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Thomas

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On 05/07/16 14:23, Bald Eagle wrote:
> 
> I have recently discovered, though not yet had enough free, round tuits, to try
> -

Pop over to p.b.i for an unlimited supply

John
-- 
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It's about doing what I need to do to win

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Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:

> Another technique which might be very successful in this context would
> be the use of eval_pigment() in combination with trace(), to place
> objects on a height_field or an isosurface.

Thomas,
I had been thinking about trying this method, recalling that several folks were
exhibiting quite impressive results with plants and other items, but was unable
to find any documentation or sample code to get me started.

Could you provide a pointer, link, or a few key code snippets to show the
basics?  I think this is a powerful method that a lot of people could use to
make better scenes, faster, if there was some quick-start code readily
available.

{Maybe put it in a new thread with eval_pigment in the title for future
searches?}

Thanks!

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