Ken wrote:
> "andrel" <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
news:407### [at] hotmailcom...
> 
> 
>>off-topic... ...can not be reached from the web-interface (at least
>>I can not find it). Why is that anyway?
> 
> 
> Because most if not all discussions in that group are unrelated to the use and
> promotion of POV-Ray. The developers prefer to keep the official website
> on-topic and the off-topic group does not suit that purpose.
> 
Some on-topic discussions tend to go off-topic (like this one) ;)
My feeling is that we often should switch earlier to the off-topic group
sometimes people indeed set the follow up to o-t, but that means that
some people out there are not able to follow the discussion anymore.
Some (many) of the discussions in o-t are so far removed from POVRay
that I can see your point of not including it. I guess that it is
impossible to find a balance and I respect your choice.
	Andrel

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news:407### [at] hotmailcom...

> Some (many) of the discussions in o-t are so far removed from POVRay
> that I can see your point of not including it. I guess that it is
> impossible to find a balance and I respect your choice.

IIRC, the removal of p-o-t from the web view may also have been caused by
the fact that certain discussions could be occasionally dominated (in volume
rather than in quality) by the rantings of those people who used it as a
soapbox. This could give to the casual visitors of the web site a bad
impression of POV-Ray and of its community.

G.

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In article <407### [at] hotmailcom>,
 andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:

> Chris Cason wrote:
> 
> > For postings with images such as this, povray.binaries.images is the best 
> > place.
> > 
> I think off-topic would even be a better place as such a job
> offer is clearly something that expires. One problem with that
> is that it can not be reached from the web-interface (at least
> I can not find it). Why is that anyway?

Perhaps *.news-submissions would be a good group? It'll get better 
coverage, and that group is intended for one-shot news items. If this 
sort of thing becomes more common, it may warrant a separate group. In 
any case, it'd probably be good to start the subject lines with a tag 
such as "[JOB]", so such postings could easily be filtered out if needed.

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Christopher James Huff wrote:

> In article <407### [at] hotmailcom>,
>  andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Chris Cason wrote:
>>
>>
>>>For postings with images such as this, povray.binaries.images is the best 
>>>place.
>>>
>>
>>I think off-topic would even be a better place as such a job
>>offer is clearly something that expires. One problem with that
>>is that it can not be reached from the web-interface (at least
>>I can not find it). Why is that anyway?
> 
> 
> Perhaps *.news-submissions would be a good group? It'll get better 
> coverage, and that group is intended for one-shot news items. 
Thanx I did not notice before it existed. Yet another newsgroup to
catch up :(
> If this 
> sort of thing becomes more common, it may warrant a separate group.
I hope so, that is why I am following this discussion closely.
I made 5 covers for books (mostly dutch thesis) with POV-Ray.
I do not have much time though, and I planned to pass on the
next request for a cover to the POV community. Since making
that decision, nobody ask me to do another. I guess they know
I am very busy.

> In 
> any case, it'd probably be good to start the subject lines with a tag 
> such as "[JOB]", so such postings could easily be filtered out if needed.
> 
good suggestion.

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Please note that I have a couple people working on the job now BUT would
love to get 1-2 more of the right kind of people. So if you are
interested, let me know.

PS: Aren't we getting really overly picky about where a job offer post
should go? I mean... sure you could divide the povray newsgroups into
1000 sections if you wanted, so I think in case's where you are not sure
where a post should go, just allow it and move on especially if its
directly related to PovRay anyways.

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"Sally" <bui### [at] NOSPAMyahoocom>

> PS: Aren't we getting really overly picky about where a job offer post
> should go? I mean... sure you could divide the povray newsgroups into
> 1000 sections if you wanted, so I think in case's where you are not sure
> where a post should go, just allow it and move on especially if its
> directly related to PovRay anyways.

Sally,

There is nothing wrong with your post to this group. povray.general was
intended for just this purpose - general discussions related to POV-Ray.
You just can't get away from people making suggestions about alternatives
no matter how well organized you try to be. So, don't let it bother you (if it
did) and continue looking for artists that may be willing to contribute to your
cause by posting to this group.

Ken Tyler

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> PS: Aren't we getting really overly picky about where a job offer post
> should go? 
No, we know it is going to happen more in the future and we
just want to know. Don't confuse curiosity with picky.
By far most people here are very friendly and positive
in attitude.

If Ken says this is the right group that is ok with me.

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I'm interested, here is an image of a sample component:
http://www.geocities.com/fcmodelview/meander.jpg (cut and paste into
browser)

Please give further details, would you like the code?





"Sally" <bui### [at] NOSPAMyahoocom> wrote:
> Hello,
> This is partly a "do it for fun" project, and partly a paid project. In
> other words, modest pay amount but for a person looking for various
> projects with lots of creativity possible, this may be your lucky day.
> This is the first of what I think will be several small projects, each
> ranging from 30min to 5 hours worth of work depending on the project.
>
> ***PROJECT 1***
> Software: ONLY PovRay 3.5 compatible code, no additional plugins but use
> of modellers like Moray is fine.
> Delivery: I need the few lines of code, not the final rendered picture
> Payment: I can pay by US$ check, CN$ check, or PayPal
> Usage: it will be used in some free software we are working on, but also
> on the paid version of that free software.
> Payment: as I noted earlier, this project is not JUST a job, I am
> looking for someone who would have fun doing this kind of thing anyways
> and wouldn't mind a bit of money as an extra bonus, but the money is not
> the only reason for doing it. I was thinking about US$60... so if it
> takes about 3 hours to do than it ends up about US$20 per hour (more
> than I get paid by the way lol)
>
> What: see attached image example, basically they are just interesting
> objects that can be used as accent pieces for a GUI (graphical user
> interface) done using PovRay. There is a lot of creative potential here,
> so long as the objects are not too complicated and not to simple either.
> I would need about a dozen various accent pieces each from 3 different
> people, and would give some general guidance for what I want for some
> but for many it is up to your imagination. Out of the 3 people, I would
> choose the best to do more detailed work. I already have the textures I
> need, so no texture work is needed at all.
>
> If you are interested, please REPLY BY EMAIL to
> buildingtolast ===AT_NOSPAMPLEASE=== yahoo.com
>
> Good luck, Sally!

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Hello there,
you can email me at
buildingtolast ===AT_NOSPAMPLEASE=== yahoo.com

I would be interested in seeing a couple more images you have had in the
past to get a sense of your style.

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I sent an e-mail to "bui### [at] yahoocom". Let me know if that wasn't
the right adress, or if you didn't get it for some other reason.

"Sally" <bui### [at] NOSPAMyahoocom> wrote:
> Hello there,
> you can email me at
> buildingtolast ===AT_NOSPAMPLEASE=== yahoo.com
>
> I would be interested in seeing a couple more images you have had in the
> past to get a sense of your style.

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