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Ken wrote:
> I would have to say that you Vcard falls into these categories by virtue of
> the fact that it is an attachment. Please act responsibly and do yourself a
> favour and take the time to read the server access policy in it's entirety.
As to the access policy, after seven months of posting you are
the first to find a problem with the access policy including the
owners.
Would you find the time to post the violation of the policy the
owners have not and to get their concurrence in that violation?
Thank you.
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On Wed, 11 Aug 1999 12:57:23 -0400, Matt Giwer wrote:
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>--------------F989E1663F4A13B6D65FD714
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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>Ken wrote:
>
>> Matt Giwer wrote:
>>
>> > Where do the owners of this newsgroup have that rule stated?
>> > Please state EXACTLY where that rule is stated.
>>
>> The official stance of the owners of this server are as follows though
>> unrelated material was removed to maintain brevity. You may read the full
>> context of the server posting policy in the announcement group here on this
>> server...
>
> I will await the opinion of the newsgroup owners in reguards to
>the subject of a Netscape utility.
>
> Pardon if I do not take you as authortitative.
>
> Next I am going to be told that only the Linux version of POV is
>valid.
>
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Don't take him as authoritative. Take Alan Kong as authoritative, since Ken
was just quoting a post from povray.announce.frequently-asked-questions:
From: Alan Kong <ako### [at] pacbellNO-SPAM net>
Newsgroups: povray.announce.frequently-asked-questions
Subject: Where can I post my binary or text file?
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 17:06:34 GMT
Message-ID: <37711f4b.55412882@news.povray.org>
X-Authenticated-User: teamacct
Xref: news.povray.org povray.announce.frequently-asked-questions:23
That "X-Authenticated-User: teamacct" header means Alan is a member of the
POV-Team. That doesn't necessarily mean he is speaking for the POV-Team
(For example, I've never spoken for the POV-Team and I have no plans to
start doing so anytime soon, particularly not regarding news server matters)
but combined with the fact that it was posted in that newsgroup, it's a
pretty good bet he was.
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I'm a comunist (not the sory you read about in the papers), and
I've got a new newsreader. But because those Vcards are so
annoying I'm starting to filter people out if they use them.
This isn't a step that I take lightly but it's got to be done.
I don't have the power to update the phone lines.
Nieminen Mika wrote:
>
> Matt Giwer <mgi### [at] giwersworldorg> wrote:
> : What in the hell is your excuse for not filtering me instead of
> : being rude to me which started all this?
>
> I think that people have the right to defend themselves when someone
> calls them nazi and communist.
> The only rude thing I have called you is "childish". That is rude, I
> admit it and apologize if I offended you serioulsy. I personally act
> childisly some times too (perhaps right now).
> However, I think that "nazi", "hitler" and "communist" are quite more rude
> than "childish".
> Anyways, it's funny. What I'm saying is: "take into account all the
> people, also those who are using old news readers". What you are saying
> is: "use a better newsreader and shut up". May I ask who is the dictator
> here?
>
> --
> main(i,_){for(_?--i,main(i+2,"FhhQHFIJD|FQTITFN]zRFHhhTBFHhhTBFysdB"[i]
> ):5;i&&_>1;printf("%s",_-70?_&1?"[]":" ":(_=0,"\n")),_/=2);} /*- Warp -*/
--
Cheers
Steve
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I agree about sigs being humerous and informal or interesting.
Many people don't understand mine, and sometimes I'll gat a phone
call from someone asking if I could re-send that email because it
had an error message at the end and my email address.
Nieminen Mika wrote:
>
> Matt Giwer <mgi### [at] giwersworldorg> wrote:
> : And that is a good thing? To post something as a sig that only
> : those familar with obscure legal but unprofession C code can read
> : if they want to waste the time?
>
> : Please explain why and exercise in obscurity is a good thing.
>
> : Yes, you are very clever. Yes you are a horrible example of the
> : art of programming.
>
> First of all, you should read http://www.ioccc.org/. I quote:
>
> > Goals of the Contest
> >
> > To write the most Obscure/Obfuscated C program under the rules below.
> > To show the importance of programming style, in an ironic way.
> > To stress C compilers with unusual code.
> > To illustrate some of the subtleties of the C language.
> > To provide a safe forum for poor C code. :-)
>
> Signatures are not part of a contest, but you should get an idea about
> what's the mentality behind obfuscated C (or any other programming language).
> Signatures usually contain information about the sender, but often they
> also have some interesting things, like quotes, url's, jokes, etc.
> My signature is intended to be a kind of riddle (in the context of
> obfuscated C). Often someone gets curious about what does it do and then
> tries to compile and run it and gets surprised. Sometimes these people
> write to me asking me how is it done. They feel the joy of discovering
> something unexpected.
> The signature seldom offends or annoys anyone. It's just 2 lines long,
> it's always located at the very end of the text and it doesn't add anything
> else to the article. That is, it doesn't disturb the reading of the article.
> Everyone can (or at least should) see that it's just a signature.
>
> And besides, why do you whine about the _contents_ of my signature? I
> have never said anything about the contents of your signature. It's only
> the way you send it which is annoying. There should be absolutely no reason
> to blame anyone for the contents of his/her signature.
> However, if I use a gif as my signature and send it uuencoded or
> mime-encoded, that's not good anymore.
>
> --
> main(i,_){for(_?--i,main(i+2,"FhhQHFIJD|FQTITFN]zRFHhhTBFHhhTBFysdB"[i]
> ):5;i&&_>1;printf("%s",_-70?_&1?"[]":" ":(_=0,"\n")),_/=2);} /*- Warp -*/
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Cheers
Steve
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Nieminen Mika wrote:
> Matt Giwer <mgi### [at] giwersworldorg> wrote:
> : It is a matter of mutual respect and there is none at this point.
> That seems to be right, since "mutual" means that both of us respect
> each other.
I do respect your posts and am happy to read them even in
confrontation I learn something ... what higher compliment is
there?
> At least I respect you. I apologized for insulting you and being rude. I
> have never attacked the contents of your articles (at least outside this
> flame war). You exasperated me at the beginning and I participated in this
> flame war between us, and I'm sorry about that now. I don't want to continue
> this war.
As was said of Mr. Spock, your saving grace is being rude. I am
rude also and without apology. I wish it had not started either
and particularly over the vcard thing. It really is a nice
gimmick if you look at it.
We are now friends, right? Hops that is true. All forgotten and
forgiven is not in question. This is the internet.
> However, your insults bother me. I don't want let you thinking bad things
> about me. I think that this news server has one big denominator which is
> seldom found in the internet: Friendship.
I think I am better than most at returning what I get in terms
of insults. But I hope they result in shaking hands as we have
just done.
> I asked (in a too rude manner) you something, but you are not going to
> do it. Well, I just have to live with that.
Which is now all forgotten if mutual.
> However, I find it hard to live with all those insults you have said about
> me. I don't want any enmity between us. It would be nice if we could read
> each other's posts without hard feelings.
There is no emnity between us. I have been in public debate
since 1980. I can give better than I get but nothing personal.
> --
> main(i,_){for(_?--i,main(i+2,"FhhQHFIJD|FQTITFN]zRFHhhTBFHhhTBFysdB"[i]
> ):5;i&&_>1;printf("%s",_-70?_&1?"[]":" ":(_=0,"\n")),_/=2);} /*- Warp -*/
So shake on it, friend :)
I have no problem at all and no memory of the past.
In my 19 years in public discussion I have had enemies turn to
friends but never a friend turn to an enemy. I have increased in
friends all over the world. I am happy to have you as one of
them. Will you accept me as a friend?
[to readers, this means truce at least]
--
<blink>---please--don't---</blink>
BTW: the above line is for folks who love the HTML because it
will blink and annoy them and maybe encourage them not to work in
the HTML mode.
http://www.giwersworld.org/artiii/
Oh my God! They've rendered Kenny!
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Matt Giwer wrote:
>
> Ken wrote:
>
> > Matt Giwer wrote:
> >
> > > Where do the owners of this newsgroup have that rule stated?
> > > Please state EXACTLY where that rule is stated.
> >
> > The official stance of the owners of this server are as follows though
> > unrelated material was removed to maintain brevity. You may read the full
> > context of the server posting policy in the announcement group here on this
> > server...
>
> I will await the opinion of the newsgroup owners in reguards to
> the subject of a Netscape utility.
>
> Pardon if I do not take you as authortitative.
You asked for the source of server access and posting policy. I provided you
with exactly the information you requested. You may do with that information
as you and you alone see fit. I do not claim authority over you or anyone
else nor do I accept that responsibility in any regard. Please don't shoot
me I am only the messenger.
Now let me add that I have been visiting these newsgroups for a long time now
and this has to be the rudest most profanity ridden thread in the history of
this group. I have read nearly every message ever posted on this server and
I can say that there has been more profanity used in this thread than in all
of the messages ever posted on this server. Almost the entire contents of
this thread are so blatantly off topic and strictly out of line it deserves
the award for the rudest thread of the year award. I am ashamed of how quickly
this turned into a name calling, muscle flexing brawl, and I really wish it
would end here and now.
Shame on all of you for letting it get so out of hand !
I'm now going to go find someone to help so leave me out of this.
--
Ken Tyler
See my 700+ Povray and 3D Rendering and Raytracing Links at:
http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html
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Steve wrote:
> I'm a comunist (not the sory you read about in the papers), and
> I've got a new newsreader. But because those Vcards are so
> annoying I'm starting to filter people out if they use them.
> This isn't a step that I take lightly but it's got to be done.
Please do so. Please filter.
It is better to filter for yourself than demand everyone "self
filter" what you do not want to see and then make a public issue
of what you do not want to see in public.
> I don't have the power to update the phone lines.
Now that is an interesting statement.
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David Heys wrote:
> Hey Matt,
> First, let me say that I'm not about to tell you what you should do or should not
> do. I'm also not about to tell you that your own choices are right or wrong. I
> don't have the right or the privilege. There's a lot of heat flying around on this
> topic and I am not inclined to add to it. Instead, I thought I'd just share my
> point of view as to how I do things, without placing judgment on anyone else
You realizse that now that it is over and there is a three line
patch to kill vcards it really was much ado over nothing.
And I should care if you filter me?
If I wnated an ego boost, it was all the people making a fuss
and not filtering me.
And that is a responsibility I will not accept.
I am just my arrogant posting self.
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Matt Giwer <mgi### [at] giwersworldorg> wrote:
: Will you accept me as a friend?
Of course.
: --
: <blink>---please--don't---</blink>
: BTW: the above line is for folks who love the HTML because it
: will blink and annoy them and maybe encourage them not to work in
: the HTML mode.
That's what I call a good signature ;)
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):5;i&&_>1;printf("%s",_-70?_&1?"[]":" ":(_=0,"\n")),_/=2);} /*- Warp -*/
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In article <37b1af6c@news.povray.org> , par### [at] fwicom (Ron Parker) wrote:
> That "X-Authenticated-User: teamacct" header means Alan is a member of the
> POV-Team.
I didn't notice that others can identify us this way as I never noticed that
the authentication name is in the header. Interesting...
Thorsten
____________________________________________________
Thorsten Froehlich
e-mail: mac### [at] povrayorg
I am a member of the POV-Ray Team.
Visit POV-Ray on the web: http://mac.povray.org
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