hey, now this is great..
I can't apply as coordinator, because of my current way of life, i'd _really_ suck at
it.
(I generally suck on everything that needs a long term dediaction and work...)

as for the system, a web-based data-base??
Someone makes a list over what is needed...(Coordinatoooooor....) and then put that
online, linking to a cgi for data-transfer, then those who feel FORCED to do it, write
some part and upload it...

Well, it's impractical, it cuts off some of the "flow" feeling of writing a
tutorial...
But, It's an idea...



//Spider

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When I first downloaded POV, I got to the bicubic patch section of the tutorial,
was utterly and totally confused, put it aside and let it sit idle for around
6 months..... I almost purged it from my system until I entered IRTC
with Ray Dream Studio and received several comments that I should have
used POV-Ray instead.  So instead of following tutorials, I tried
to reproduce my Ray Dream Studio image in POV by using the reference section,
realized how elegent and simple it was, and became hooked.  But the tutorial
almost lost me..... I came very close to uninstalling it from my disk.

Dan

> Tutorials must flow.  Our current tutorial teaches bicubic_patch before box
> & cone because it comes first alphabetically!  That's stupid!


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I skipped that section. :)

Actually, that's not entirely true.  First I drew out some patches on
grid paper, tried to input it by hand, rendered it...then skipped that
section.

-Mike

Dan Connelly wrote:
> 
> When I first downloaded POV, I got to the bicubic patch section of the tutorial,
> was utterly and totally confused, put it aside and let it sit idle for around
> 6 months..... I almost purged it from my system until I entered IRTC
> with Ray Dream Studio and received several comments that I should have
> used POV-Ray instead.  So instead of following tutorials, I tried
> to reproduce my Ray Dream Studio image in POV by using the reference section,
> realized how elegent and simple it was, and became hooked.  But the tutorial
> almost lost me..... I came very close to uninstalling it from my disk.
> 
> Dan
> 
> > Tutorials must flow.  Our current tutorial teaches bicubic_patch before box
> > & cone because it comes first alphabetically!  That's stupid!
> 
> --
> http://www.flash.net/~djconnel/

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hehe, am I the only one who took a look at the jibberish in the file, gave up, and
opened
te example files in a normal text-editor, trying to find out what was what ?
Well, once that was passed, I had the basics on it, I went into the doc's and read all
of
the things I had caught, learning the tips and trix on the way :-)

//Spider

Mike wrote:
> 
> I skipped that section. :)
> 
> Actually, that's not entirely true.  First I drew out some patches on
> grid paper, tried to input it by hand, rendered it...then skipped that
> section.
> 
> -Mike
> 
> Dan Connelly wrote:
> >
> > When I first downloaded POV, I got to the bicubic patch section of the tutorial,
> > was utterly and totally confused, put it aside and let it sit idle for around
> > 6 months..... I almost purged it from my system until I entered IRTC
> > with Ray Dream Studio and received several comments that I should have
> > used POV-Ray instead.  So instead of following tutorials, I tried
> > to reproduce my Ray Dream Studio image in POV by using the reference section,
> > realized how elegent and simple it was, and became hooked.  But the tutorial
> > almost lost me..... I came very close to uninstalling it from my disk.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > > Tutorials must flow.  Our current tutorial teaches bicubic_patch before box
> > > & cone because it comes first alphabetically!  That's stupid!
> >
> > --
> > http://www.flash.net/~djconnel/

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Spider wrote:
> 
> hehe, am I the only one who took a look at the jibberish in the file, gave up, and
opened
> te example files in a normal text-editor, trying to find out what was what ?
> Well, once that was passed, I had the basics on it, I went into the doc's and read
all of
> the things I had caught, learning the tips and trix on the way :-)
> 
> //Spider
> 
> Mike wrote:
> >
> > I skipped that section. :)
> >
> > Actually, that's not entirely true.  First I drew out some patches on
> > grid paper, tried to input it by hand, rendered it...then skipped that
> > section.
> >
> > -Mike
> >
> > Dan Connelly wrote:
> > >
> > > When I first downloaded POV, I got to the bicubic patch section of the tutorial,
> > > was utterly and totally confused, put it aside and let it sit idle for around
> > > 6 months..... I almost purged it from my system until I entered IRTC
> > > with Ray Dream Studio and received several comments that I should have
> > > used POV-Ray instead.  So instead of following tutorials, I tried
> > > to reproduce my Ray Dream Studio image in POV by using the reference section,
> > > realized how elegent and simple it was, and became hooked.  But the tutorial
> > > almost lost me..... I came very close to uninstalling it from my disk.
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > > > Tutorials must flow.  Our current tutorial teaches bicubic_patch before box
> > > > & cone because it comes first alphabetically!  That's stupid!
> > >
> > > --
> > > http://www.flash.net/~djconnel/

I learned how to use Pov before the documentation even had all
of those pretty, little pictures. In fact you folks would
get a real kick out of reading the docs for DKBTrace and Pov v1.0.
Now those were the days - Not !

-- 
Ken Tyler

tyl### [at] pacbellnet

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> Now those were the days - Not !
Great, then you can tell all of us what a great job we do compared to POV 1.0 !!!

//Spider

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Don't be too sure about this :).

Some of the old stuff is pretty darn good.

Dan

Spider wrote:
> 
> > Now those were the days - Not !
> Great, then you can tell all of us what a great job we do compared to POV 1.0 !!!
> 
> //Spider

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Ken wrote:
> I learned how to use Pov before the documentation even had all
> of those pretty, little pictures. In fact you folks would
> get a real kick out of reading the docs for DKBTrace and Pov v1.0.
> Now those were the days - Not !

Oh !  I remember myself in 1994, printing the plain text of POV 2.1
docs. I made a mistake with the sheets, so I had the odd pages printed
in the back of the even pages, upside-down, and in reverse order !!
To diminish the thickness of the thing, I used a 7-point font, and was
spending hours flipping the binded "manual", while practicing the 
left-hand-coordinates-aerobics !

Cheers,
Fabien.

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I must agree. If you are familiar with the Pov v2.2 docs you can
see areas of the v3.0x docs that have not changed one word.
The explanations were as good then as they are (or are not) now.
I must admit though that once I learned how to use the 3.0x docs,
with the context sensitive help, it was a real joy to use and
seriously speed up the access time to the right information.
I'm still a little taken aback at the new Doc's format but life
goes on.

Ken

Dan Connelly wrote:
> 
> Don't be too sure about this :).
> 
> Some of the old stuff is pretty darn good.
> 
> Dan
> 
> Spider wrote:
> >
> > > Now those were the days - Not !
> > Great, then you can tell all of us what a great job we do compared to POV 1.0 !!!
> >
> > //Spider
> 
> --
> http://www.flash.net/~djconnel/

-- 
Ken Tyler

tyl### [at] pacbellnet

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And my mistake...
I printed out the POV 3.02 DOC, pictures and all, but forgot to check
the Collate box and ended up with about 375 sheets. Put them in a 3 inch
3-ring binder. The tough part was hole-punching, about 10 sheets at a
time.

Fabien Mosen wrote:
> 
> Oh !  I remember myself in 1994, printing the plain text of POV 2.1
> docs. I made a mistake with the sheets, so I had the odd pages printed
> in the back of the even pages, upside-down, and in reverse order !!
> To diminish the thickness of the thing, I used a 7-point font, and was
> spending hours flipping the binded "manual", while practicing the
> left-hand-coordinates-aerobics !
> 
> Cheers,
> Fabien.

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 omniVERSE: beyond the universe
  http://members.aol.com/inversez/POVring.htm
=Bob

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