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From: Sven Littkowski
Subject: HELP: How to replace image?
Date: 28 Mar 2015 15:06:02
Message: <5516fb9a@news.povray.org>
Hi,

currently, I am using large images for my spaceship project as hull
textures (please see the attached image). But that takes plenty memory
and increases a lot the rendering time.

If you look to the attached hull texture, is there any way to create
something like this with a function or formula? Please assists. Thanks.


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: HELP: How to replace image?
Date: 28 Mar 2015 17:53:59
Message: <551722f7$1@news.povray.org>
On 28/03/15 19:05, Sven Littkowski wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> currently, I am using large images for my spaceship project as hull
> textures (please see the attached image). But that takes plenty memory
> and increases a lot the rendering time.
> 
> If you look to the attached hull texture, is there any way to create
> something like this with a function or formula? Please assists. Thanks.
> 

Sven (if that really is your name) you have posted many times on here
and have given nothing back in the form of advice or solutions.
Show us your code; show us that you really use POV rather than assume
that we, as a self-help group, will automatically assist you.

Incidentally, it would help your believability if you posted original
POV images.

[REAL ROLEX]

John
-- 
Protect the Earth
It was not given to you by your parents
You hold it in trust for your children


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: HELP: How to replace image?
Date: 28 Mar 2015 18:22:40
Message: <551729b0$1@news.povray.org>
Le 15-03-28 15:05, Sven Littkowski a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> currently, I am using large images for my spaceship project as hull
> textures (please see the attached image). But that takes plenty memory
> and increases a lot the rendering time.
>
> If you look to the attached hull texture, is there any way to create
> something like this with a function or formula? Please assists. Thanks.
>

You may be able to get away by scalling it down by half, maybe more.
Could reduce the file's size by as much as 75%. WILL reduce the memory 
use by 75%.
Reduce the colour depth : Save as a 256 colours image (8 bit / pixel) 
instead of true colour (24 bit / pixel). The image use only 72 distinct 
shades of gray. This may reduce the file's size by about a third. WILL 
reduce the memory use by 2/3.

Use the highest compression available so that the file is as small as 
possible. Loading the file take much more time than uncompressing it.

Attached at 10% of the original size and 256 colours.


Alain


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From: Sven Littkowski
Subject: Re: HELP: How to replace image?
Date: 28 Mar 2015 18:35:01
Message: <web.55172c811418ae685189b500@news.povray.org>
Thanks to both of you.

As wished, I am attaching now a rendered image.

Color Depth: great reminder! Of course. I won't reduce their dimensions as i
need them in hi-res, and i cannot adjust compression levels in PNGs. but yes, I
will make them gray-scale. Let's see. :-)

I also created already a first animation, but the ship is still very far from
complete.







Sven Littkowski <jam### [at] yahoocom> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> currently, I am using large images for my spaceship project as hull
> textures (please see the attached image). But that takes plenty memory
> and increases a lot the rendering time.
>
> If you look to the attached hull texture, is there any way to create
> something like this with a function or formula? Please assists. Thanks.


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sl - seneca ii.png


 

From: Sven Littkowski
Subject: Re: HELP: How to replace image?
Date: 28 Mar 2015 18:50:00
Message: <web.55172f881418ae685189b500@news.povray.org>
Hmmm, strange: the larger PNGs were 550 kb before, but after grayscale saving
are now 22 MB! Saved as so-called "Big PNG", whatever that means. Might have to
undo it, ha ha ha!




Sven Littkowski <jam### [at] yahoocom> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> currently, I am using large images for my spaceship project as hull
> textures (please see the attached image). But that takes plenty memory
> and increases a lot the rendering time.
>
> If you look to the attached hull texture, is there any way to create
> something like this with a function or formula? Please assists. Thanks.


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From: Sven Littkowski
Subject: Re: HELP: How to replace image?
Date: 28 Mar 2015 20:25:04
Message: <web.551745e41418ae685189b500@news.povray.org>
But back to my initial question:

can anyone create a function that creates a pattern like that seen in the
attached image (primary posting)?

The pattern consists of many overlapping rectangles of all sizes and aspect
ratios, some with smaller rectangles cut out from them inside or on their edges.
All edges are slightly brighter. And all rectangles are a bit translucent.


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: HELP: How to replace image?
Date: 29 Mar 2015 03:22:53
Message: <5517a84d$1@news.povray.org>
On 29-3-2015 1:23, Sven Littkowski wrote:
> But back to my initial question:
>
> can anyone create a function that creates a pattern like that seen in the
> attached image (primary posting)?
>
> The pattern consists of many overlapping rectangles of all sizes and aspect
> ratios, some with smaller rectangles cut out from them inside or on their edges.
> All edges are slightly brighter. And all rectangles are a bit translucent.
>

For some reason (guts) I think that an image_map is faster. Otherwise, I 
suppose you should investigate layered textures with tiles in different 
shapes and sizes. That seems to me the way to go.

-- 
Thomas


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From: Sven Littkowski
Subject: Re: HELP: How to replace image?
Date: 29 Mar 2015 05:15:00
Message: <web.5517c1d61418ae685189b500@news.povray.org>
Tiles! Yes, of course! Thanks.



Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> On 29-3-2015 1:23, Sven Littkowski wrote:
> > But back to my initial question:
> >
> > can anyone create a function that creates a pattern like that seen in the
> > attached image (primary posting)?
> >
> > The pattern consists of many overlapping rectangles of all sizes and aspect
> > ratios, some with smaller rectangles cut out from them inside or on their edges.
> > All edges are slightly brighter. And all rectangles are a bit translucent.
> >
>
> For some reason (guts) I think that an image_map is faster. Otherwise, I
> suppose you should investigate layered textures with tiles in different
> shapes and sizes. That seems to me the way to go.
>
> --
> Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: HELP: How to replace image?
Date: 29 Mar 2015 08:22:40
Message: <5517ee90$1@news.povray.org>
On 29-3-2015 11:11, Sven Littkowski wrote:
> Tiles! Yes, of course! Thanks.
>

You could play with a combination of tiling patterns and pavement patterns.
-- 
Thomas


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: HELP: How to replace image?
Date: 29 Mar 2015 10:08:59
Message: <5518077b$1@news.povray.org>
Am 28.03.2015 um 22:53 schrieb Doctor John:
> On 28/03/15 19:05, Sven Littkowski wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> currently, I am using large images for my spaceship project as hull
>> textures (please see the attached image). But that takes plenty memory
>> and increases a lot the rendering time.
>>
>> If you look to the attached hull texture, is there any way to create
>> something like this with a function or formula? Please assists. Thanks.
>>
>
> Sven (if that really is your name) you have posted many times on here
> and have given nothing back in the form of advice or solutions.
> Show us your code; show us that you really use POV rather than assume
> that we, as a self-help group, will automatically assist you.
>
> Incidentally, it would help your believability if you posted original
> POV images.
>
> [REAL ROLEX]
>
> John

Doc,

having learned from povray.off-topic that this posting of yours is /not/ 
just intended to be a joke, I somewhat kindly ask you to refrain from 
such comments.

These newsgroups are /not/ exclusively reserved for people "giving back" 
to the community. If you don't wish to assist people who ask for more 
help than they can "repay", feel free to not assist them, but please 
keep calm, and just pretend that the posting is not addressed to you. 
It's not up to you to judge who is worthy of replies and who isn't - 
each and every reader is entitled to their own decision in that respect.

(That said, your claim that Sven (and yes, that really is his name) has 
"given nothing back" can easily be proven wrong anyway.)


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