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Sebastian Holtermann wrote:
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> Will there be a GUI for XWindows in Povray 3.5?
> (Maybe Gtk/Qt/etc.)
> --
> Sebastian H.
How about Java GUI for POV-Ray, which could run on XWindows and Windows?
I don't think, that slowliness of Java would be problem for GUI
front-end (although its memory consumption probably would...)
Of course Java poses its own problems, but it is probably more
widespread (i.e. installed in more computers) than above mentioned
packages.
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That is why I mentioned Jedit.
There is also a Java 3d modeler called Art of Illusion that could be merged
with Jedit, the Java front-end could then call the POV and GIMP engines.
being able to mix modeled and hand coded POV instructions at the same time
would be really cool, I know of no other software that lets you do this.
Such a hybrid Java front-end would provide a very complete cross platform
package. Having a POV<->GIMP interaction under code control would open up a
whole world of possibilities, inc the pre-rendering of static procedural
textures, which has been shown to give a large speed up to multi-frame
renderings, i.e. animation. (see SIGGRAPH 2001 papers )
Vahur Krouverk wrote:
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> Sebastian Holtermann wrote:
>>
>> Will there be a GUI for XWindows in Povray 3.5?
>> (Maybe Gtk/Qt/etc.)
>> --
>> Sebastian H.
>
> How about Java GUI for POV-Ray, which could run on XWindows and Windows?
> I don't think, that slowliness of Java would be problem for GUI
> front-end (although its memory consumption probably would...)
> Of course Java poses its own problems, but it is probably more
> widespread (i.e. installed in more computers) than above mentioned
> packages.
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Vahur Krouverk wrote:
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> How about Java GUI for POV-Ray, which could run on XWindows and Windows?
Well, Netbeans is just waiting for you to write a new module!
Netbeans is an all-Java Java editor. While this basically just
not appeals to me, it has a good debugger that I like to use.
And more importantly, it's heavily modularized, so added support
for POV files should not be that hard.
Netbeans used to be a private Sun program, but now they've followed
the way of Netscape. They let the community develop the core of the
http://www.netbeans.org/ for more info.
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Mes propos n'engagent que moi et en aucun cas mes employeurs
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Adrien Beau wrote:
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> Vahur Krouverk wrote:
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> > How about Java GUI for POV-Ray, which could run on XWindows and Windows?
>
> Well, Netbeans is just waiting for you to write a new module!
>
Yes, I thought about this as well (I saw Netbeans ad in some magazine,
DDJ IIRC) but time is limiting factor...
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Warp wrote:
> Why make a GUI nobody will use anyways? (I wouldn't certainly use it
> unless
> it had all the features emacs has; and if it had, how would it be
> different from emacs anyways? A couple of buttons... Big deal.)
>
> And see:
> http://www.students.tut.fi/~warp/povVFAQ/miscVFAQ.html#guiforunix
>
Emacs is great, if you have time to learn its features and how to configure
it.
But for Artists this would be an obstacle and a reason to use the windows
GUIed version of Povray which I think has some advantages (as mentioned
earlier).
--
Sebastian H.
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On Mon, 03 Sep 2001 18:23:18 +0200, Sebastian Holtermann wrote:
>Warp wrote:
>
>> Why make a GUI nobody will use anyways? (I wouldn't certainly use it
>> unless
>> it had all the features emacs has; and if it had, how would it be
>> different from emacs anyways? A couple of buttons... Big deal.)
>>
>> And see:
>> http://www.students.tut.fi/~warp/povVFAQ/miscVFAQ.html#guiforunix
>>
>
>Emacs is great, if you have time to learn its features and how to configure
>it.
>But for Artists this would be an obstacle and a reason to use the windows
>GUIed version of Povray which I think has some advantages (as mentioned
>earlier).
There are others around here that have already done the configuration.
The configuration is held in a single text file which is fairly short and
easily transferable from one system to another.
I use emacs all the time, and the only thing I've had to learn is how to
close the window and save my comments when I'm adding a log entry to a
file in an RCS repository (C-c c).
I move around the screen using the arrow keys the way I used to in windows,
I mark, copy, paste, cut and move text around the way I used to in the windows
POV editor, but as I'm using emacs I can have access to many additional features
at the press of a key, like my refontify is F8, goto line is F5, save is F2 exit
without saving F3 etc.
There are menus which I access using the mouse, these menus offer more
features than you can shake a stick at, so now I use emacs for almost all
my text editing weather it be perl, POV or bash.
I use Pico for mail and news as it does everthing I want for those utils,
loads fast and only has a few commands to learn.
If you want an example emacs config file ".emacs", all you have to do is
ask.
--
Cheers
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In article <3b8abdcc@news.povray.org>, "Sebastian Holtermann"
<Van### [at] gmxde> wrote:
> Will there be a GUI for XWindows in Povray 3.5? (Maybe Gtk/Qt/etc.)
I don't mind using emacs, vim, or any other text editor to make my pov
files but I still find one advantage in using (WINE) pov-win: The
shortcut lists! It is sooooo nice to be able to add (insert
object/texture/camera/etc. here) with only a couple of mouse clicks and
in most cases the inserted code includes commented-out options that I
otherwise might have completely forgotten about.
This is what I would most want in an "official gui" for pov-*nix. A
mouse clickable interface with the full contents of the drop down lists
from the pov-win binaries. And hey, the little preview images in 3.5 are
sweet too, although not nearly as essential.
IS there a way to create something like this for emacs/vim/other?
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October wrote:
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> I don't mind using emacs, vim, or any other text editor to make my pov
> files but I still find one advantage in using (WINE) pov-win: The
> shortcut lists! It is sooooo nice to be able to add (insert
> object/texture/camera/etc. here) with only a couple of mouse clicks and
> in most cases the inserted code includes commented-out options that I
> otherwise might have completely forgotten about.
>
> This is what I would most want in an "official gui" for pov-*nix. A
> mouse clickable interface with the full contents of the drop down lists
> from the pov-win binaries. And hey, the little preview images in 3.5 are
> sweet too, although not nearly as essential.
>
> IS there a way to create something like this for emacs/vim/other?
I think it would be possible to add a menu (without the pictures probably)
to the emacs pov-mode. Someone knowing a bit more about emacs lisp should
be able to write it.
What i have meanwhile made is a transcript of the insert menu in form of a
html file:
http://www.schunter.etc.tu-bs.de/~chris/imenu/insert_menu.html
(be careful, it's ~2.5 Mb with pictures)
Christoph
--
Christoph Hormann <chr### [at] gmxde>
IsoWood include, radiosity tutorial, TransSkin and other
things on: http://www.schunter.etc.tu-bs.de/~chris/
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In article <3BD### [at] gmxde>, "Christoph Hormann"
<chr### [at] gmxde> wrote:
> October wrote:
>>
>> I don't mind using emacs, vim, or any other text editor to make my pov
>> files but I still find one advantage in using (WINE) pov-win: The
>> shortcut lists! It is sooooo nice to be able to add (insert
>> object/texture/camera/etc. here) with only a couple of mouse clicks and
>> in most cases the inserted code includes commented-out options that I
>> otherwise might have completely forgotten about.
>>
>> This is what I would most want in an "official gui" for pov-*nix. A
>> mouse clickable interface with the full contents of the drop down lists
>> from the pov-win binaries. And hey, the little preview images in 3.5
>> are sweet too, although not nearly as essential.
>>
>> IS there a way to create something like this for emacs/vim/other?
>
> I think it would be possible to add a menu (without the pictures
> probably) to the emacs pov-mode. Someone knowing a bit more about emacs
> lisp should be able to write it.
>
> What i have meanwhile made is a transcript of the insert menu in form of
> a html file:
>
> http://www.schunter.etc.tu-bs.de/~chris/imenu/insert_menu.html
>
> (be careful, it's ~2.5 Mb with pictures)
>
> Christoph
>
WOW! Thanks for sharing, Christoph! That is VERY useful :) Now with emacs (I
actually prefer vim! Don't hate me! ;) ) and a browser I have all the
same functionality, if not the same ease of use.
Very much appreciated.
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On Sat, 27 Oct 2001 08:33:01 -0400, October wrote:
>In article <3b8abdcc@news.povray.org>, "Sebastian Holtermann"
><Van### [at] gmxde> wrote:
>
>> Will there be a GUI for XWindows in Povray 3.5? (Maybe Gtk/Qt/etc.)
>
>
>I don't mind using emacs, vim, or any other text editor to make my pov
>files but I still find one advantage in using (WINE) pov-win: The
>shortcut lists! It is sooooo nice to be able to add (insert
>object/texture/camera/etc. here) with only a couple of mouse clicks and
>in most cases the inserted code includes commented-out options that I
>otherwise might have completely forgotten about.
>
>This is what I would most want in an "official gui" for pov-*nix. A
>mouse clickable interface with the full contents of the drop down lists
>from the pov-win binaries. And hey, the little preview images in 3.5 are
>sweet too, although not nearly as essential.
>
>IS there a way to create something like this for emacs/vim/other?
I started doing this about a year or so ago, I actually had it working
but made some changes and never got back to putting it into a
working state again. Maybe I'll resume work on it and make it fit
for public use.
--
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