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Dude chill out, the world doesn't revolve around Emacs...I should know
because I use Emacs and it DOES do a crapload that one doesn't
neccessarily always need. For example, while taking notes for CS I
prefer to use jed because it's smaller, faster, and does many of the
same things I need it to do. I don't see any need to comment negatively
about his editor just because he wants to use something different. Let's
face it, Emacs is a dusty old dinosaur, and while it is quite usable,
some people prefer the study of mammals over dinosaurs, if that analogy
makes any sense ;P
Take Care,
Tim
Warp wrote:
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>>What I don't like in emacs is that is that, you have to twiddle with parameters
>>and see at the end that it does not work.
>>
>
> But you don't have to do that each time you want to edit a povray file.
>You configure emacs _once_, and then you just edit pov files.
>
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TigerHawk <tig### [at] sticnet> wrote:
> Dude chill out, the world doesn't revolve around Emacs...
But why make something that is already done (and better)?
> For example, while taking notes for CS I
> prefer to use jed because it's smaller
Who cares? In modern computers the size of emacs is nothing.
> faster
Faster in what way?
If I press a key, the correspondent letter appears immediately on the
window. That's fast enough.
I don't consider speed to be a reason to switch to another editor which
has a lot less features.
> and does many of the same things I need it to do.
That's the point: It does "many", not "all".
I personally am not prepared to change editor to a "smaller" and "faster"
one if it means I will be losing features I use.
> Let's
> face it, Emacs is a dusty old dinosaur
Why all programs which have existed for long time are "old dinosaurs"?
The current version of emacs is pretty different from the first emacs
which existed. I wouldn't call it "old".
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Well, don't use it then :) That's the beautify of Linux, is in it's
ability to let one use what they want to use - it's VERY configurable,
and I sincerely believe that is an asset. This conversation will quickly
go nowhere, just like "which is better vi or emacs" goes nowhere - so I
propose we live and let live. We don't, after all, drive the same cars,
eat the same foods, listen to the same music, etc. It seems the issue is
personal taste more than anything...
Warp wrote:
>TigerHawk <tig### [at] sticnet> wrote:
>
>>Dude chill out, the world doesn't revolve around Emacs...
>>
>
> But why make something that is already done (and better)?
>
>>For example, while taking notes for CS I
>>prefer to use jed because it's smaller
>>
>
> Who cares? In modern computers the size of emacs is nothing.
>
>>faster
>>
>
> Faster in what way?
> If I press a key, the correspondent letter appears immediately on the
>window. That's fast enough.
>
> I don't consider speed to be a reason to switch to another editor which
>has a lot less features.
>
>>and does many of the same things I need it to do.
>>
>
> That's the point: It does "many", not "all".
> I personally am not prepared to change editor to a "smaller" and "faster"
>one if it means I will be losing features I use.
>
>>Let's
>>face it, Emacs is a dusty old dinosaur
>>
>
> Why all programs which have existed for long time are "old dinosaurs"?
> The current version of emacs is pretty different from the first emacs
>which existed. I wouldn't call it "old".
>
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"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message
news:3cb4b6c5@news.povray.org...
> TigerHawk <tig### [at] sticnet> wrote:
> > Dude chill out, the world doesn't revolve around Emacs...
>
> But why make something that is already done (and better)?
>
I would say that just because Emacs can edit pov files with syntax highlight
(which I have never been able to get to work like I like) does not mean it
is better or even the best. I could set up many editors to edit pov files
but I would only be editing text with colors. I have not seen this editor in
python but I have been looking and even thanking about writing one myself
that actually knows the pov language. To automatically indent items based on
the structure of the object. Or to group the elements into a visual graph
tree for editing individual parts. Moray uses something similar to this but
does not go further. It does not need to because it uses a visual interface.
I prefer editing the pov code directly but with big scenes it can get real
confusing what is what. Emacs is a general purpose feature packed editor. It
is not targeted enough to povray to serve all of us who use povray. For
those who have used Emacs and can run it like they walk, it proves more than
capable. For the rest of use we just want something that knows povray before
we start using it. Like I mentioned I have not used this editor in python
but I am hoping it does what I want. If it does not I will continue to look
and even dabble with programming one my self. Like every thing time is the
crook in the mix.
Thanks for the conversation.
Mike Williams
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Mike Williams <mwi### [at] morninglightmediacom> wrote:
> I would say that just because Emacs can edit pov files with syntax highlight
> (which I have never been able to get to work like I like) does not mean it
> is better or even the best.
That's not the only thing emacs does.
> To automatically indent items based on the structure of the object.
Among other things, emacs does that.
> Emacs is a general purpose feature packed editor. It
> is not targeted enough to povray to serve all of us who use povray.
But it can be configured to be very pov-specific. pov-mode for emacs does
a lot of this.
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So does nedit in pov-mode...and I'm sure jed would do the same thing (it
does syntax highlighting and auto-indenting)....
Warp wrote:
>Mike Williams <mwi### [at] morninglightmediacom> wrote:
>
>>I would say that just because Emacs can edit pov files with syntax highlight
>>(which I have never been able to get to work like I like) does not mean it
>>is better or even the best.
>>
>
> That's not the only thing emacs does.
>
>>To automatically indent items based on the structure of the object.
>>
>
> Among other things, emacs does that.
>
>>Emacs is a general purpose feature packed editor. It
>>is not targeted enough to povray to serve all of us who use povray.
>>
>
> But it can be configured to be very pov-specific. pov-mode for emacs does
>a lot of this.
>
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TigerHawk wrote:
> So does nedit in pov-mode...and I'm sure jed would do the same thing (it
> does syntax highlighting and auto-indenting)....
>
What configuration file do you use for nedit? I have syntax highlighting
but no auto-indenting. Could you post or email me yours?
- Micha
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Warp wrote:
> Mike Williams <mwi### [at] morninglightmediacom> wrote:
>
>>I would say that just because Emacs can edit pov files with syntax highlight
>>(which I have never been able to get to work like I like) does not mean it
>>is better or even the best.
>
>
> That's not the only thing emacs does.
>
>
>>To automatically indent items based on the structure of the object.
>
>
> Among other things, emacs does that.
>
>
>>Emacs is a general purpose feature packed editor. It
>>is not targeted enough to povray to serve all of us who use povray.
>
>
> But it can be configured to be very pov-specific. pov-mode for emacs does
> a lot of this.
>
By the way:
Did anyone upgrade pov-mode for the new keywords from pov35?
Sebastian H.
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Alas, I too use emacs for Pov-Ray stuff :) And have been too busy to do
Pov-Ray anyway, least in a long while. :/
Take Care,
Tim
Micha Riser wrote:
>TigerHawk wrote:
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>>So does nedit in pov-mode...and I'm sure jed would do the same thing (it
>>does syntax highlighting and auto-indenting)....
>>
>
>What configuration file do you use for nedit? I have syntax highlighting
>but no auto-indenting. Could you post or email me yours?
>
>- Micha
>
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