Actually I use GIMP just for that (figured it out after actualyl getting off
my butt to look up stuff, hehe). It's not very easy to do, though....at least
I don't know how to do some things - like reverse the playback of an animated
GIF (I think there's a plugin that may help with they, but the newer version
of GIMP doesn't seem to have it - unless GIMP has been upgraded to include
it).

Now all I need is an MPEG encoder and I'm all set :)

Thanks for the help,
Tim Soderstrom
TigerHawk

Armin Dittel wrote:

> TigerHawk wrote:
> >
> > I know in DOS there is DTA (yay! :) and various other programs to create
> > AVI and GIF animations. However, I am looking for a program that can do
> > the same thing, plus, maybe MPEG creation. At this moment, I really
> > could use the GIF animatino smoosher as I'm trying to make animated GIFs
> > on my web-page....
> The latest versions of GIMP (www.gimp.org) are capable of handling
> animated GIFs.

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TigerHawk <Tig### [at] sitcnet> writes:

> Now all I need is an MPEG encoder and I'm all set :)

I always recommend the Berkeley MPEG Tools.  Command-line interface,
highly configurable, really handy.  Search for "Berkeley MPEG Tools"
on <http://www.freshmeat.net/>.

Roland.
-- 
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Clef publique GnuPG / GnuPG public key
<URL:http://www.302-consulting.fr.eu.org:8080/~roland/gpg-public-key.asc>

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TigerHawk wrote:
> 
> I know in DOS there is DTA (yay! :) and various other programs to create
> AVI and GIF animations. However, I am looking for a program that can do
> the same thing, plus, maybe MPEG creation. At this moment, I really
> could use the GIF animatino smoosher as I'm trying to make animated GIFs
> on my web-page....
> 
> If you can give me any hints to where such a program might be, I'd
> apreciate the help
> Tim Soderstrom
> TigerHawk

For gif animations I use gifmerge.

http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~sos/GIFMERGE/

together with giftrans to make non transparent gifs transparent

http://waldo.wi.mit.edu/WWW/tools/graphics/giftrans/


I found them very useful. For mpeg creation I used the mpeg tools on my
LINUX box at home (I found them difficult to handle) and at work I use
dmconvert but this is a program made by SGI and is not free (but very
convenient).

Marc
-- 
Marc Schimmler

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Thanks, I'll be sure to check that out. I've done MPEG searched on freshmeat
before, but the results were always about MP3 software....

Apreciate the help!
Tim Soderstrom
TigerHawk


Roland Mas wrote:

> TigerHawk <Tig### [at] sitcnet> writes:
>
> > Now all I need is an MPEG encoder and I'm all set :)
>
> I always recommend the Berkeley MPEG Tools.  Command-line interface,
> highly configurable, really handy.  Search for "Berkeley MPEG Tools"
> on <http://www.freshmeat.net/>.
>
> Roland.
> --
> Roland Mas
>
> Clef publique GnuPG / GnuPG public key
> <URL:http://www.302-consulting.fr.eu.org:8080/~roland/gpg-public-key.asc>

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Do these utilities have control over playback direction? (Ie can I reverse
the order of the frames without doing it by hand, like I must do with GMIP?)

I'll be sure to check them out, though. GIMP is great, but is very
time-consuming to make a simple animation (at least, it is without a script)

Thanks for the info,
Tim Soderstrom
TigerHawk

Marc Schimmler wrote:

> TigerHawk wrote:
> >
> > I know in DOS there is DTA (yay! :) and various other programs to create
> > AVI and GIF animations. However, I am looking for a program that can do
> > the same thing, plus, maybe MPEG creation. At this moment, I really
> > could use the GIF animatino smoosher as I'm trying to make animated GIFs
> > on my web-page....
> >
> > If you can give me any hints to where such a program might be, I'd
> > apreciate the help
> > Tim Soderstrom
> > TigerHawk
>
> For gif animations I use gifmerge.
>
> http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~sos/GIFMERGE/
>
> together with giftrans to make non transparent gifs transparent
>
> http://waldo.wi.mit.edu/WWW/tools/graphics/giftrans/
>
> I found them very useful. For mpeg creation I used the mpeg tools on my
> LINUX box at home (I found them difficult to handle) and at work I use
> dmconvert but this is a program made by SGI and is not free (but very
> convenient).
>
> Marc
> --
> Marc Schimmler

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TigerHawk wrote:
> 
> Do these utilities have control over playback direction? (Ie can I reverse
> the order of the frames without doing it by hand, like I must do with GMIP?)
> 
> I'll be sure to check them out, though. GIMP is great, but is very
> time-consuming to make a simple animation (at least, it is without a script)
> 

AFAIK this is not the case ... sorry!

If you are familiar with shell scripts or perl you could write a small
script that would change the numbering. Just an idea.

Marc
-- 
Marc Schimmler

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Well, I know a script when I see it, and I can do real simple things...I just
don't know the syntax of a script. Suppse I can get off lazy behind and go look,
hehehe....anyways, thanks for the help!

Tim Soderstrom


Marc Schimmler wrote:

> TigerHawk wrote:
> >
> > Do these utilities have control over playback direction? (Ie can I reverse
> > the order of the frames without doing it by hand, like I must do with GMIP?)
> >
> > I'll be sure to check them out, though. GIMP is great, but is very
> > time-consuming to make a simple animation (at least, it is without a script)
> >
>
> AFAIK this is not the case ... sorry!
>
> If you are familiar with shell scripts or perl you could write a small
> script that would change the numbering. Just an idea.
>
> Marc
> --
> Marc Schimmler

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TigerHawk wrote:

When doing animated gifs, I use the following trick:
1. Create a long variable, e.g.
    a='1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 9 8 7 8 9'
   containing the frame numbers in the right order.
   (writing shell functions like reverse() help doing this)
   It is often useful to have several of them and to
   combine them in various ways.
2. Say somthing like
   frames=''; for i in $a ; do frames=${frames}frame{$i}'.gif '; done
   gifmerge -options $frames > animated.gif

Having this in a shell script allows easy experimentation
(I often find out after looking ath the result that
some frames should be duplicated, skipped or even rerendered
for better results).

Ralf

PS: Please delete old quoted lines at the end of your postings.
AFAIK Netscape has even settings to correct this (Netscape 4.5*
comes with almost all default settings wrong).

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Is shell scripting a mutation of C? Just curious - also, are there any
tutorials? I kinda understood what you were explaing, but it's  alittle
vauge (which is just my fault for not learning it already - I'm an
autoexec.bat kinda man still :)

Thanks for the help,
Tim Soderstrom
TigerHawk

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TigerHawk wrote:

> Is shell scripting a mutation of C? Just curious

No, simpler. Just play around with some Bourne-like shell
(i.e. not csh, which is harmful :-)) and find out, what happens
if you try different things. The only nontrivial thing I had
to learn was to know when 'a b c' was one value (three letters
and two spaces) and when later commands parsed it as three
values. Before trying dangerous commands, prepend them with
'echo' to see what might happen (and replace  '>','<','|'
with something harmless, i.e. '.GT.', '.LT.', '.PIPE.').

> tutorials? I kinda understood what you were explaing, but it's  alittle
Bash comes with docs, which can be printed using teX or read
online using emacs (or other tools, if you are into SM and
live without emacs).

A third way (OS-independent) would be to hack somthing
in your favorite language that produces a long boring
DOS .bat or shellscript, and execute that.

Ralf

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