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From: Warp
Subject: Re: I should not have looked it up.
Date: 2 Aug 2012 09:00:11
Message: <501a79db@news.povray.org>
nemesis <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> so all you need to make up new (ilogical) words is getting a bunch of dumbasses
> demanding it so?

Languages evolve. Your post alone probably contains several words that
didn't exist in the English language a hundred years ago. Or even fifty.
(Of if they did exist, they may have been used with a very different
meaning.)

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: I should not have looked it up.
Date: 2 Aug 2012 12:21:22
Message: <501aa902@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 09:11:05 +0100, Invisible wrote:

> This stupid mistake has now stuck,
> and I defy you to find a dictionary today which even lists "napron" as a
> word.

The online edition OED does resolve it to "Apron" - I just did a search 
and that's where it took me:

Forms:  ME naperonn, ME naprun(e, -onne, napperone, ME haprune, ME–15 
napron, 15 aprone, aproneren, aprarne, ap(p)urn, 15–16 aperne, ME– apron.

Etymology:  < Old French naperon (modern French napperon ), diminutive of 
nape , nappe , table-cloth < Latin mappa table-napkin. The change of 
Latin m to French n is also seen in matta , natte , mespilum , nèfle ; 
the medieval Latin instances of napa , nappa for mappa are probably < 
French. In English, initial n has been lost by corruption of a napron to 
an apron . See a adj.

:P

> Seriously, how do you *think* new languages are invented? They happen
> because of people being stupid.

Or lazy.

> Related: You can probably find "teh" in the dictionary. 

 a. In Taoism, the essence of Tao inherent in all beings.
 b. In Confucianism and in extended use, moral virtue.

> Along with
> "pron"

Redirected to "Prone" as "pron" is an early form of that word.

Jim


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: I should not have looked it up.
Date: 2 Aug 2012 15:54:32
Message: <501adaf8$1@news.povray.org>
On 02/08/2012 6:51 AM, waggy wrote:
> "waggy" wrote:
> [something regrettable]

LOL

>
> Please allow me to retract my statement about spaces. I had no idea it's
> considered flame bait.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentence_spacing#Controversy
>

I have never heard of double spacing sentences. And I worked in the 
newspaper industry, A few years after the switch over from hot metal.
Is it an American thing?

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     Stephen


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: I should not have looked it up.
Date: 2 Aug 2012 16:28:48
Message: <501ae300$1@news.povray.org>
Am 02.08.2012 21:54, schrieb Stephen:
> On 02/08/2012 6:51 AM, waggy wrote:
>> "waggy" wrote:
>> [something regrettable]
>
> LOL
>
>>
>> Please allow me to retract my statement about spaces. I had no idea it's
>> considered flame bait.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentence_spacing#Controversy
>>
>
> I have never heard of double spacing sentences. And I worked in the
> newspaper industry, A few years after the switch over from hot metal.
> Is it an American thing?

I would presume that in the printing industry, especially with people 
familiar with classic hot metal, the idea of using "two spaces after a 
sentence" would prompt a puzzled look; after all, they had been using 
variable-width spaces for ages, so they'd just make the (/single/) space 
after a sentence wider than between words.

That said, traditional typesetters have always put a lot of emphasis on 
keeping the "weight" (ratio between black and white areas) of the 
printed text as uniform as possible across the page; additional 
whitespace between sentences would constitute a local reduction of 
weight, so they might have avoided it altogether.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: I should not have looked it up.
Date: 3 Aug 2012 12:48:05
Message: <501c00c5$1@news.povray.org>
On 8/1/2012 0:57, Invisible wrote:
> Wait, what? You wrote a sentence that was /more/ than 3 lines long? What are
> you, a lawyer? ;-)

No, a PhD student. :)

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "Oh no! We're out of code juice!"
   "Don't panic. There's beans and filters
    in the cabinet."


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: I should not have looked it up.
Date: 3 Aug 2012 12:50:32
Message: <501c0158@news.povray.org>
On 8/2/2012 1:01, Invisible wrote:
> I thought that when a paper is "published" that just means that it goes into
> some journal which can only be purchased for thousands of pounds per issue?

In addition, the school itself gets a copy of the thesis (or many copies) 
and they wind up in the department or library or something. Certainly when 
the student publishes a thesis, the school isn't going to fail to have a 
vanity copy.

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "Oh no! We're out of code juice!"
   "Don't panic. There's beans and filters
    in the cabinet."


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: I should not have looked it up.
Date: 3 Aug 2012 12:52:22
Message: <501c01c6$1@news.povray.org>
On 8/2/2012 12:54, Stephen wrote:
> Is it an American thing?

FWIW, as a native American, it's one of the few "rules" that never seemed 
controversial. Then again, I learned to type on a manual typewriter, so 
maybe times have changed.

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "Oh no! We're out of code juice!"
   "Don't panic. There's beans and filters
    in the cabinet."


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: I should not have looked it up.
Date: 3 Aug 2012 12:53:47
Message: <501c021b@news.povray.org>
On 8/1/2012 16:53, nemesis wrote:
> so all you need to make up new (ilogical) words is getting a bunch of dumbasses
> demanding it so?

This is true of all words. You just weren't around when it happened. How do 
you think words show up?

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "Oh no! We're out of code juice!"
   "Don't panic. There's beans and filters
    in the cabinet."


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: I should not have looked it up.
Date: 3 Aug 2012 12:58:01
Message: <501c0319@news.povray.org>
On 8/2/2012 0:25, Le_Forgeron wrote:
> You should have learned from the image of your country in movies: "when
> you have to shoot, shoot, don't talk!" (The good, the bad and the ugly;

I was amused at an American TV show, where the cop describes the other cop 
as a "loose cannon" or something like that, and the french subtitles 
translated it to "cowboy" (in English). Ah, so *that* is the weird 
stereotype others have of Americans: wild west themes.

I saw in a video game quote scroll someone said

Developer: "I need you to tell me what to do about a problem in the 
multiplayer mode, but first I want to show you what I'm talking about."

Manager: "Right. Shoot first, ask questions later."

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "Oh no! We're out of code juice!"
   "Don't panic. There's beans and filters
    in the cabinet."


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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: I should not have looked it up.
Date: 3 Aug 2012 14:19:43
Message: <501c163f$1@news.povray.org>
On 03/08/2012 05:50 PM, Darren New wrote:
> On 8/2/2012 1:01, Invisible wrote:
>> I thought that when a paper is "published" that just means that it
>> goes into
>> some journal which can only be purchased for thousands of pounds per
>> issue?
>
> In addition, the school itself gets a copy of the thesis (or many
> copies) and they wind up in the department or library or something.
> Certainly when the student publishes a thesis, the school isn't going to
> fail to have a vanity copy.

Sure. But that doesn't help *me* read it. I always seem to have trouble 
getting my hands on interesting papers and stuff...


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