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"waggy" wrote:
[something regrettable]
Please allow me to retract my statement about spaces. I had no idea it's
considered flame bait.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentence_spacing#Controversy
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Le 02/08/2012 03:30, waggy a écrit :
> Le_Forgeron wrote:
>>
>> Do they expect automatic translation to be successful on your thesis ?
>
> If I knew what they expected, I would have delivered it. Part of the challenge
> is to figure out, usually by trial and error, the secret idiosyncratic standards
> by which each professor will grade their students' written work. They won't tell
> you what those standards are because, as graduate students, we should already
> know.
Hint for starting students: get access to the accepted theses of the ten
or so previous years. (theses are published... they go public)
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Le 02/08/2012 03:55, waggy a écrit :
> andrel wrote:
>> I don't know where you live, but in general emigrating to Germany or the
>> Netherlands should do the trick.
>> We both have similar long sentences, and in German you have the bonus of
>> constructs that consist of a verb and another word. This allows you to
>> use that word, which might not be the one the audience expects, and then
>> 5 minutes later finish off your sentence with the right verb.
>> When done expertly it can make boring speeches into a spectator sport.
>>
And it's the main reason the "congressmen" of Germany are disciplined
and do not interrupt the speaking "congressman" with noisy
interruptions, unlike any other countries: they cannot guess the meaning
before the verb. They would risk embarrassing themselves as interrupting
an idea they did support and therefore being counter-productive to their
goal.
> Now there's the best reason yet to quit smoking, but alas, I think I'm too old
> (mid forties) to emigrate from the Great (formerly) Independent Republic of
> Texastan.
>
You should have learned from the image of your country in movies: "when
you have to shoot, shoot, don't talk!" (The good, the bad and the ugly;
Siergio Leone ). Ergo, small sentences are mandatory in your land, or
you get a bullet.
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On 02/08/2012 08:12 AM, Le_Forgeron wrote:
> Hint for starting students: get access to the accepted theses of the ten
> or so previous years. (theses are published... they go public)
I thought that when a paper is "published" that just means that it goes
into some journal which can only be purchased for thousands of pounds
per issue?
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>> yeah, it's a strange habit that I carried over even to my portuguese writing.
>> And the funny fact is that you do know it makes sentences stand out better!
>
> But not so strange, since I think proportional typeset text traditionally has a
> wider space after a period between sentences than it uses after an abbrev.
> within a sentence. Do any word processors automagically put in a wider spacing
> character between sentences?
TeX.
Whenever it sees a dot followed by whitespace, it adds a wider space,
unless the character before the dot was a capital letter. (This
exception means that something like "R.A.M." does not introduce
extraneous space.) In case this is incorrect, you can write "\ " to
introduce a regular-size space. (And there's probably some macro
somewhere to introduce a wide space where one would not normally be.)
This from the typesetting engine which considers a hyphen, a minus sign,
an en-dash and an em-dash to be three unrelated glyphs...
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On 02/08/2012 12:53 AM, nemesis wrote:
> so all you need to make up new (ilogical) words is getting a bunch of dumbasses
> demanding it so?
Yep. Just like all of antiquity.
Take "apron", for example. This word is actually a mistake. The original
words was "napron". But when some dumbarse heard the phrase "a napron",
this misinterpreted it as "an apron". This stupid mistake has now stuck,
and I defy you to find a dictionary today which even lists "napron" as a
word.
Seriously, how do you *think* new languages are invented? They happen
because of people being stupid.
Related: You can probably find "teh" in the dictionary. Along with
"pron" and so forth.
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> And it's the main reason the "congressmen" of Germany are disciplined
> and do not interrupt the speaking "congressman" with noisy
> interruptions, unlike any other countries: they cannot guess the meaning
> before the verb. They would risk embarrassing themselves as interrupting
> an idea they did support and therefore being counter-productive to their
> goal.
Filibuster vigilantly...
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On 02/08/2012 12:36 AM, nemesis wrote:
> I like this guy. :)
>
> tough competition, Andrew!
That's funny... I thought you hated me. :-P
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On 2-8-2012 10:01, Invisible wrote:
> On 02/08/2012 08:12 AM, Le_Forgeron wrote:
>
>> Hint for starting students: get access to the accepted theses of the ten
>> or so previous years. (theses are published... they go public)
>
> I thought that when a paper is "published" that just means that it goes
> into some journal which can only be purchased for thousands of pounds
> per issue?
No and no.
A thesis is published as a separate entity and in general contains much
more than one paper. In the Netherlands they are even published as a
book. I have about 3 meter of them from various friends and colleagues.
In many places the University publishes them on-line also.
Papers are published in journals. Journals might cost thousands of
pounds per year but there is a growing trend of free articles and free
journals.
--
Women are the canaries of science. When they are underrepresented
it is a strong indication that non-scientific factors play a role
and the concentration of incorruptible scientists is also too low
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>> I thought that when a paper is "published" that just means that it goes
>> into some journal which can only be purchased for thousands of pounds
>> per issue?
>
> No and no.
>
> A thesis is published as a separate entity and in general contains much
> more than one paper. In the Netherlands they are even published as a
> book. I have about 3 meter of them from various friends and colleagues.
> In many places the University publishes them on-line also.
>
> Papers are published in journals. Journals might cost thousands of
> pounds per year but there is a growing trend of free articles and free
> journals.
Thanks for clarifying that.
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