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I think John Oliver has got it right.
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/john-oliver-late-show-tonight-london-terror-attack-london-bridge-response-a7772901.html
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Stephen
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On Tue, 06 Jun 2017 20:41:50 +0100, Stephen wrote:
> I think John Oliver has got it right.
>
> http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/john-oliver-
late-show-tonight-london-terror-attack-london-bridge-response-
a7772901.html
Yep, we were cheering him on.
We have good friends who live in Bucks, and one of them used to work in
Richmond House. We once asked them how they dealt with the constant
threat of terror from the IRA, and they said "We live our lives. We're
not stupid about how we do that, but we also aren't going to let the IRA
make us afraid to live our lives and enjoy them."
Wise words.
Jim
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"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw
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On 6/6/2017 10:20 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Jun 2017 20:41:50 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>
>> I think John Oliver has got it right.
>>
>> http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/john-oliver-
> late-show-tonight-london-terror-attack-london-bridge-response-
> a7772901.html
>
> Yep, we were cheering him on.
>
> We have good friends who live in Bucks, and one of them used to work in
> Richmond House. We once asked them how they dealt with the constant
> threat of terror from the IRA, and they said "We live our lives. We're
> not stupid about how we do that, but we also aren't going to let the IRA
> make us afraid to live our lives and enjoy them."
>
> Wise words.
>
It is the only way to do it. You've got more chance of winning the
lottery...
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Regards
Stephen
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On Tue, 06 Jun 2017 22:47:07 +0100, Stephen wrote:
> On 6/6/2017 10:20 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Tue, 06 Jun 2017 20:41:50 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>> I think John Oliver has got it right.
>>>
>>> http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/john-oliver-
>> late-show-tonight-london-terror-attack-london-bridge-response-
>> a7772901.html
>>
>> Yep, we were cheering him on.
>>
>> We have good friends who live in Bucks, and one of them used to work in
>> Richmond House. We once asked them how they dealt with the constant
>> threat of terror from the IRA, and they said "We live our lives. We're
>> not stupid about how we do that, but we also aren't going to let the
>> IRA make us afraid to live our lives and enjoy them."
>>
>> Wise words.
>>
>>
> It is the only way to do it. You've got more chance of winning the
> lottery...
Yep.
Saying anything more than that on my part would get too political for me
here. :)
--
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw
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On 6/6/2017 11:08 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Jun 2017 22:47:07 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>
>> On 6/6/2017 10:20 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>> On Tue, 06 Jun 2017 20:41:50 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think John Oliver has got it right.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/john-oliver-
>>> late-show-tonight-london-terror-attack-london-bridge-response-
>>> a7772901.html
>>>
>>> Yep, we were cheering him on.
>>>
>>> We have good friends who live in Bucks, and one of them used to work in
>>> Richmond House. We once asked them how they dealt with the constant
>>> threat of terror from the IRA, and they said "We live our lives. We're
>>> not stupid about how we do that, but we also aren't going to let the
>>> IRA make us afraid to live our lives and enjoy them."
>>>
>>> Wise words.
>>>
>>>
>> It is the only way to do it. You've got more chance of winning the
>> lottery...
>
> Yep.
>
> Saying anything more than that on my part would get too political for me
> here. :)
>
Understood.
But consider the carnage they could have caused if firearms were readily
available here.
With that in mind. They weren't very effective. Considering they had the
element of surprise.
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Regards
Stephen
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On Wed, 07 Jun 2017 05:25:58 +0100, Stephen wrote:
> Understood.
> But consider the carnage they could have caused if firearms were readily
> available here.
> With that in mind. They weren't very effective. Considering they had the
> element of surprise.
Absolutely. But some here will say "see, they found a way in spite of
the fact that there aren't firearms readily available" - and will ignore
the fact that this was a largely ineffective attack.
Jim
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"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw
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On 6/7/2017 4:56 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Wed, 07 Jun 2017 05:25:58 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>
>> Understood.
>> But consider the carnage they could have caused if firearms were readily
>> available here.
>> With that in mind. They weren't very effective. Considering they had the
>> element of surprise.
>
> Absolutely. But some here will say "see, they found a way in spite of
> the fact that there aren't firearms readily available"
Naturally that is what people do. Whatever the issue.
> - and will ignore
> the fact that this was a largely ineffective attack.
>
I think it is a little bit taboo to bring that up. Either you don't want
to admit it. Or, if you are on the other side (mine) it would be
offensive to the victims and their families.
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Regards
Stephen
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Am 2017-06-06 17:47, also sprach Stephen:
>
> It is the only way to do it. You've got more chance of winning the
> lottery...
>
>
After Sandy Hook, we spent billions turning our schools into
mini-prisons. I pointed out that that was a total waste of money.
Concerned mom: "It keeps my snowflake safe."
Me: "Ok, so I'm a bad guy with a gun who is locked out of the school.
I'll just sit on that hill across the street and pick off a couple of
packed busloads of kids."
And I followed it up with my goto line.
"You are so concerned about something that is not going to happen, yet
you ignore the 300 people that died on Connecticut's roads last year
while you happily text and drive."
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dik
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On 6/7/2017 9:35 PM, dick balaska wrote:
> Am 2017-06-06 17:47, also sprach Stephen:
>
>>
>> It is the only way to do it. You've got more chance of winning the
>> lottery...
>>
>>
>
> After Sandy Hook, we spent billions turning our schools into
> mini-prisons. I pointed out that that was a total waste of money.
Not total waste of money. It shows to the world/community that the
authorities are doing something, however ineffectual. Throwing money at
the wrong problem. Personally I believe the real problem is social
inequality, at least it is in Britain. People get pissed off with their
lives and crack or here in the UK get radicalised. But changing that
seems to be too hard to admit. At least for politicians who want to get
re-elected.
When we had a school massacre in Dunblane. Our politicians tightened up
our gun laws. But I understand that would be political suicide in the
states. So it won't be done unless the unthinkable happens.
> Concerned mom: "It keeps my snowflake safe."
> Me: "Ok, so I'm a bad guy with a gun who is locked out of the school.
> I'll just sit on that hill across the street and pick off a couple of
> packed busloads of kids."
>
Mr. Popularity at the PTA. ;)
> And I followed it up with my goto line.
> "You are so concerned about something that is not going to happen, yet
> you ignore the 300 people that died on Connecticut's roads last year
> while you happily text and drive."
>
Don't get me started on that one. I would jail anyone caught doing it.
(Well I like to think I would. Threatening to take away their licences
would probable be better.)
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Regards
Stephen
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On Wed, 07 Jun 2017 23:07:30 +0100, Stephen wrote:
> When we had a school massacre in Dunblane. Our politicians tightened up
> our gun laws. But I understand that would be political suicide in the
> states. So it won't be done unless the unthinkable happens.
The unthinkable has happened here in the US. Several times. The answer
is always "more guns". Ridiculous.
But let it be an "Islamic Terrorist," and we're willing to give away ALL
of our freedoms. How much money did we waste over here on those damn
backscatter X-Ray machines? Billions. Know what? They replaced them
recently - with dogs. The dogs were shown to be more effective. Last
time I flew somewhere (last year), I had to put my shoes *BACK ON* and
put my laptop back in my bag because the dogs were that much more
effective. I held up the line because I'd followed the old nonsensical
procedures.
Seems we could've figured that shit out 15 years ago and saved a ton of
money.
But hey, now it sounds like because of the threat of possible exploding
laptops from certain countries, they'll probably have to be checked for
most international flights. Because in the hold is so much safer. Along
with a planeload of bored passengers because they don't have their
laptops or tablets, and didn't think to bring a book or six.
And, of course, we have the privilege of paying the airlines to check our
electronics now, too. Hurray, capitalism. <grump>
Jim
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"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw
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