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On Thu, 08 Jun 2017 18:26:22 +0100, Stephen wrote:
> On 6/8/2017 6:11 PM, Stephen wrote:
>> We are in purdah
>
> Other matters:
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-40190204
Some good news there. :)
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"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw
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On Thu, 08 Jun 2017 18:40:27 +0100, Stephen wrote:
> On 6/8/2017 6:21 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Thu, 08 Jun 2017 17:36:46 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Ah! So it is the third coming we are waiting for, now.
>>> At least the English say that he walked upon England’s mountains
>>> green.
>>> ;)
>>
>> Well, there is a religious sect that does say he came to North America.
>>
>>
> It must have been during his world tour. Fter he recuperated in India.
:)
>>> You should be voting for our Jeremy. :)
>>
>> Sadly, I probably would be. Because if you don't vote for a lizard,
>> the wrong lizard might get in (see US 2016 election).
>>
>>
> He certainly isn't perfect. But he is polite and not a back stabber.
True enough. Were I in the UK, and if Nick Clegg hadn't happened, the
LibDems would probably have been my party of choice. But now it probably
would be Labour.
>>>>> Cynical, moi?
>>>>
>>>> You'd fit right in here. :)
>>>>
>>>>
> I don't think I did in New Mexico.
Well, that's not *here* now, is it? :)
>>>>
>>> What as a disruptive alien?
>>
>> Sure, why not? :D
>>
>>
> Guns and policemen?
Exist here.
>>>>>> But hey, now it sounds like because of the threat of possible
>>>>>> exploding laptops from certain countries, they'll probably have to
>>>>>> be checked for most international flights. Because in the hold is
>>>>>> so much safer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is that so it is safer? I don't understand the rational.
>>>>
>>>> I don't either.
>>>>
>>> It must be people with bigger brains than ours.
>>
>> Or smaller.
> >
> >
> No, no they must be bigger. How else could the get the power? :)
The power of irrational stupidity? :)
>> That's the "problem" with people like us - we think too much, rather
>> than going with our gut.
>>
>>
> Well a lot of them certainly have big ones. :)
True enough. Mine's gotten smaller, though, so that's good.
3 months ago, I was diagnosed with new onset diabetes. Since then, I've
lost 10 lbs (without really doing anything other than eating less), and
my test results came back last week as having shown an improvement, both
for my BP and for my A1C numbers. I'm technically now in the pre-
diabetes range.
If it keeps improving, I can start coming off the medications I've been
taking. We check the numbers again in September.
>>> Me too. Not that I've ever been to Vancouver.
>>
>> It's nice up there. I wish I had a reason to go up there this week, as
>> one coworker's last day is tomorrow (her family moved cross-country,
>> and she can't work remotely).
>>
>>
> Same.
Which part?
Jim
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"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw
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On 6/8/2017 10:17 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Jun 2017 18:30:03 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>
>> On 6/8/2017 6:21 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>> On Thu, 08 Jun 2017 18:11:18 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/8/2017 6:02 PM, Cousin Ricky wrote:
>>>>> Stephen <mca### [at] aol com> wrote:
>>>>>> Today we are having a general election.
>>>>>
>>>>> Go, Corbyn!
>>>>>
>>>>> ..... is that too political?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> We are in purdah so I could not possibly comment. Until after 10 pm
>>>> BST.
>>>> ;)
>>>
>>> I saw from The Guardian that the polls are saying the Tories are in the
>>> lead. m-/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> To be expected, to be honest.
>
> Sounds like it might be a hung parliament.
>
I hope you put some money on that. :)
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Regards
Stephen
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On 6/8/2017 10:22 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Jun 2017 18:40:27 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>
>>>> You should be voting for our Jeremy. :)
>>>
>>> Sadly, I probably would be. Because if you don't vote for a lizard,
>>> the wrong lizard might get in (see US 2016 election).
>>>
>>>
>> He certainly isn't perfect. But he is polite and not a back stabber.
>
> True enough. Were I in the UK, and if Nick Clegg hadn't happened, the
> LibDems would probably have been my party of choice. But now it probably
> would be Labour.
>
Nick Clegg, who is that? :D
You probably don't have the background. They are just Tories in sheep's
clothing. And the SNP, before Alex Salmond, Tartan Tories.
>> I don't think I did in New Mexico.
>
> Well, that's not *here* now, is it? :)
>
It is from this side of the pond.
Truly we have no idea of the demographics of the States. Because you
normally put up such a united front for your president. That is what we see.
<aside>
I have the feeling that Mr. Trump believed that the POTUS was God's
representative on Earth. And everyone would respect his utterances. No
that he is in that position he is finding it is not so.
Is that reasonable?
</aside>
>>>>>
>>>> What as a disruptive alien?
>>>
>>> Sure, why not? :D
>>>
>>>
>> Guns and policemen?
>
> Exist here.
>
I have noticed. But at least, I have a light complexion.
>> >
>> >
>> No, no they must be bigger. How else could the get the power? :)
>
> The power of irrational stupidity? :)
>
>>> That's the "problem" with people like us - we think too much, rather
>>> than going with our gut.
>>>
>>>
>> Well a lot of them certainly have big ones. :)
>
> True enough. Mine's gotten smaller, though, so that's good.
>
> 3 months ago, I was diagnosed with new onset diabetes. Since then, I've
> lost 10 lbs (without really doing anything other than eating less), and
> my test results came back last week as having shown an improvement, both
> for my BP and for my A1C numbers. I'm technically now in the pre-
> diabetes range.
>
That is very good. :)
> If it keeps improving, I can start coming off the medications I've been
> taking. We check the numbers again in September.
>
>>>> Me too. Not that I've ever been to Vancouver.
>>>
>>> It's nice up there. I wish I had a reason to go up there this week, as
>>> one coworker's last day is tomorrow (her family moved cross-country,
>>> and she can't work remotely).
>>>
>>>
>> Same.
>
> Which part?
>
I don't know what is wrong with my fingers. I meant to write "shame".
It is a big pity that you can't edit your own posts on the newsgroup.
--
Regards
Stephen
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On Fri, 09 Jun 2017 07:56:14 +0100, Stephen wrote:
> On 6/8/2017 10:22 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Thu, 08 Jun 2017 18:40:27 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>>>> You should be voting for our Jeremy. :)
>>>>
>>>> Sadly, I probably would be. Because if you don't vote for a lizard,
>>>> the wrong lizard might get in (see US 2016 election).
>>>>
>>>>
>>> He certainly isn't perfect. But he is polite and not a back stabber.
>>
>> True enough. Were I in the UK, and if Nick Clegg hadn't happened, the
>> LibDems would probably have been my party of choice. But now it
>> probably would be Labour.
>>
>>
> Nick Clegg, who is that? :D
Exactly. :)
> You probably don't have the background. They are just Tories in sheep's
> clothing. And the SNP, before Alex Salmond, Tartan Tories.
Heh, yeah - but remember that your conservatives are more like our center-
left liberals over here.
>>> I don't think I did in New Mexico.
>>
>> Well, that's not *here* now, is it? :)
>>
> It is from this side of the pond.
Well, true, but definitely different.
> Truly we have no idea of the demographics of the States. Because you
> normally put up such a united front for your president. That is what we
> see.
Fair point - just remember that our current President doesn't even
pretend to represent everyone.
> <aside>
> I have the feeling that Mr. Trump believed that the POTUS was God's
> representative on Earth. And everyone would respect his utterances. No
> that he is in that position he is finding it is not so.
> Is that reasonable?
>
> </aside>
I don't think so - I don't think he actually believes in "God". He
believes in money and profits.
But beyond that, yeah, I think he naively thought that as POTUS, everyone
would like him, and now he's angry that that hasn't happened. The job is
harder than he thought it would be (he's said as much), and that unlike
in his C-suite position, he can't just say "do this" and it gets done.
He positions himself as a "dealmaker", but he's really shit at making
deals - he's a dictator who says "this is what you'll do, or I'll find
someone else". That's not "dealmaking".
And it's rich him complaining about NATO countries not paying "their fair
share", when he himself takes pride in stiffing suppliers and nonpayment
of bills - "negotiating" a lower payment by saying "I'll pay you far
less, and you can sue me, but it'll cost you more than its worth" -
again, not "negotiating".
>>>>> What as a disruptive alien?
>>>>
>>>> Sure, why not? :D
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Guns and policemen?
>>
>> Exist here.
>>
>>
> I have noticed. But at least, I have a light complexion.
Which helps, so long as you're not a liberal or a member of the press (at
least according to some on the right who think it's OK to "joke" about
shooting them/us).
>>> No, no they must be bigger. How else could the get the power? :)
>>
>> The power of irrational stupidity? :)
>>
>>>> That's the "problem" with people like us - we think too much, rather
>>>> than going with our gut.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Well a lot of them certainly have big ones. :)
>>
>> True enough. Mine's gotten smaller, though, so that's good.
>>
>> 3 months ago, I was diagnosed with new onset diabetes. Since then,
>> I've lost 10 lbs (without really doing anything other than eating
>> less), and my test results came back last week as having shown an
>> improvement, both for my BP and for my A1C numbers. I'm technically
>> now in the pre- diabetes range.
>>
>>
> That is very good. :)
I'm pleased. :)
>> If it keeps improving, I can start coming off the medications I've been
>> taking. We check the numbers again in September.
>>
>>>>> Me too. Not that I've ever been to Vancouver.
>>>>
>>>> It's nice up there. I wish I had a reason to go up there this week,
>>>> as one coworker's last day is tomorrow (her family moved
>>>> cross-country, and she can't work remotely).
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Same.
>>
>> Which part?
>>
>>
> I don't know what is wrong with my fingers. I meant to write "shame".
> It is a big pity that you can't edit your own posts on the newsgroup.
LOL, that makes more sense. :)
Jim
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"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw
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On Fri, 09 Jun 2017 07:37:06 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>>> To be expected, to be honest.
>>
>> Sounds like it might be a hung parliament.
>>
>>
> I hope you put some money on that. :)
I wish. :)
--
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw
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On 6/9/2017 4:29 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Jun 2017 07:56:14 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>
>
>> You probably don't have the background. They are just Tories in sheep's
>> clothing. And the SNP, before Alex Salmond, Tartan Tories.
>
> Heh, yeah - but remember that your conservatives are more like our center-
> left liberals over here.
>
I think of it the other way round. ;)
>>>> I don't think I did in New Mexico.
>>>
>>> Well, that's not *here* now, is it? :)
>>>
>> It is from this side of the pond.
>
> Well, true, but definitely different.
>
I can imagine. :)
>> Truly we have no idea of the demographics of the States. Because you
>> normally put up such a united front for your president. That is what we
>> see.
>
> Fair point - just remember that our current President doesn't even
> pretend to represent everyone.
>
He doesn't? ;)
>> <aside>
>> I have the feeling that Mr. Trump believed that the POTUS was God's
>> representative on Earth. And everyone would respect his utterances. No
>> that he is in that position he is finding it is not so.
>> Is that reasonable?
>>
>> </aside>
>
> I don't think so - I don't think he actually believes in "God". He
> believes in money and profits.
>
Sorry, that was meant to be a metaphor.
> But beyond that, yeah, I think he naively thought that as POTUS, everyone
> would like him, and now he's angry that that hasn't happened. The job is
> harder than he thought it would be (he's said as much), and that unlike
> in his C-suite position, he can't just say "do this" and it gets done.
That is what I meant.
> He positions himself as a "dealmaker", but he's really shit at making
> deals - he's a dictator who says "this is what you'll do, or I'll find
> someone else". That's not "dealmaking".
>
There is his age to take into account. His brain paths must be fossilised.
> And it's rich him complaining about NATO countries not paying "their fair
> share", when he himself takes pride in stiffing suppliers and nonpayment
> of bills - "negotiating" a lower payment by saying "I'll pay you far
> less, and you can sue me, but it'll cost you more than its worth" -
> again, not "negotiating".
>
Nice guy to have as the leader of the free (not very) world.
>>>
>>>
>> I have noticed. But at least, I have a light complexion.
>
> Which helps, so long as you're not a liberal or a member of the press (at
> least according to some on the right who think it's OK to "joke" about
> shooting them/us).
>
They're joking? :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Same.
>>>
>>> Which part?
>>>
>>>
>> I don't know what is wrong with my fingers. I meant to write "shame".
>> It is a big pity that you can't edit your own posts on the newsgroup.
>
> LOL, that makes more sense. :)
>
I was all thumbs.
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Regards
Stephen
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On Fri, 09 Jun 2017 20:02:23 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>> Heh, yeah - but remember that your conservatives are more like our
>> center-
>> left liberals over here.
>>
>>
> I think of it the other way round. ;)
Naturally. :)
>>> It is from this side of the pond.
>>
>> Well, true, but definitely different.
>>
>>
> I can imagine. :)
The PNW is a lot more like the UK in a lot of ways than NM. :) For one
thing, we get rain.
>> Fair point - just remember that our current President doesn't even
>> pretend to represent everyone.
>>
>>
> He doesn't? ;)
Heh.
>> I don't think so - I don't think he actually believes in "God". He
>> believes in money and profits.
>>
> Sorry, that was meant to be a metaphor.
Oh, I caught that, too.
>> But beyond that, yeah, I think he naively thought that as POTUS,
>> everyone would like him, and now he's angry that that hasn't happened.
>> The job is harder than he thought it would be (he's said as much), and
>> that unlike in his C-suite position, he can't just say "do this" and it
>> gets done.
>
> That is what I meant.
Yup. Caught it. :)
>> He positions himself as a "dealmaker", but he's really shit at making
>> deals - he's a dictator who says "this is what you'll do, or I'll find
>> someone else". That's not "dealmaking".
>>
>>
> There is his age to take into account. His brain paths must be
> fossilised.
I don't think he's ever been a "negotiator", as he purports to be. He
thinks he knows what negotiation is, but he's just wrong.
>> And it's rich him complaining about NATO countries not paying "their
>> fair share", when he himself takes pride in stiffing suppliers and
>> nonpayment of bills - "negotiating" a lower payment by saying "I'll pay
>> you far less, and you can sue me, but it'll cost you more than its
>> worth" - again, not "negotiating".
>>
>>
> Nice guy to have as the leader of the free (not very) world.
Tell me about it.
>>> I have noticed. But at least, I have a light complexion.
>>
>> Which helps, so long as you're not a liberal or a member of the press
>> (at least according to some on the right who think it's OK to "joke"
>> about shooting them/us).
>>
>>
> They're joking? :)
Well, we certainly hope so. Don't get me started on people who use the
term "snowflake" (I hate that f-ing term) and then can't take criticism.
>>> I don't know what is wrong with my fingers. I meant to write "shame".
>>> It is a big pity that you can't edit your own posts on the newsgroup.
>>
>> LOL, that makes more sense. :)
>>
>>
> I was all thumbs.
Well, that would explain it. :D
Jim
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"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw
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On 6/9/2017 8:48 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> Well, we certainly hope so. Don't get me started on people who use the
> term "snowflake" (I hate that f-ing term) and then can't take criticism.
It seems pointless to me.
OH! I am so hurt I will melt.
Grow up or pick yourself up (off the ground).
GTF :)
Carebears is another one.
--
Regards
Stephen
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On Fri, 09 Jun 2017 21:46:22 +0100, Stephen wrote:
> On 6/9/2017 8:48 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> Well, we certainly hope so. Don't get me started on people who use the
>> term "snowflake" (I hate that f-ing term) and then can't take
>> criticism.
>
> It seems pointless to me.
Yeah, it is pointless. There's a false story about the origin being a
term used by Nazis in WWII, but at least in the US, it actually was
applied to anti-abolitionists during the US civil war.
So it's kinda ironic that the party that often represents "the
south" (and as such represents "states rights" folks who would've stood
*for* the continuation of slavery) tend to really like to use it.
But the thing that annoys me the most about it is just how derisive and
pejorative it is in common usage - and how people on both sides of the
conversation tend to use it to dismiss an opposing point of view.
You have folks on the right who deride liberals who want "safe spaces"
and "trigger warnings", and then who turn around and whine and moan about
how they're being treated "unfairly". More than happy to tell people who
they think are crybabies to grow up, but then engage in the same
behaviours they accuse the other side of using.
And it happens both ways. It's not productive or useful.
> OH! I am so hurt I will melt.
> Grow up or pick yourself up (off the ground).
> GTF :)
>
> Carebears is another one.
Indeed.
Jim
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"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw
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