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From: clipka
Subject: Good News Of The Day
Date: 11 May 2015 14:40:34
Message: <5550f7a2$1@news.povray.org>
The sad news is that today I had to say farewell to Clio, one of my 
favorite cats. She was taken away without much of a warning. I just 
arrived in time to see her go, meowing pitifully.

The good news is, she's at a better place now.

However, the *best* news is that no animals were harmed in the making of 
this post. To the contrary. You see, I'm a volutary "cat cuddler" at a 
local animal shelter, where Clio used to be an inmate for a while, but 
today and totally out of the blue she must have found herself a new pair 
of can openers while I wasn't watching, and I saw them take her away in 
a carrier box, off to a new home.

All's well that ends well.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Good News Of The Day
Date: 12 May 2015 01:10:14
Message: <55518b36$1@news.povray.org>
A nice story.
It makes me quite envious. There are three cats that come into my garden 
and none of them will come near me. I am beginning to suspect that the 
previous occupant used to chase them.

On 11/05/2015 19:40, clipka wrote:
> The sad news is that today I had to say farewell to Clio, one of my
> favorite cats. She was taken away without much of a warning. I just
> arrived in time to see her go, meowing pitifully.
>
> The good news is, she's at a better place now.
>
> However, the *best* news is that no animals were harmed in the making of
> this post. To the contrary. You see, I'm a volutary "cat cuddler" at a
> local animal shelter, where Clio used to be an inmate for a while, but
> today and totally out of the blue she must have found herself a new pair
> of can openers while I wasn't watching, and I saw them take her away in
> a carrier box, off to a new home.
>
> All's well that ends well.
>


-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Good News Of The Day
Date: 12 May 2015 04:08:57
Message: <5551b519$1@news.povray.org>
On 12-5-2015 7:10, Stephen wrote:
> A nice story.
> It makes me quite envious. There are three cats that come into my garden
> and none of them will come near me. I am beginning to suspect that the
> previous occupant used to chase them.
>

It might be that or something else. When we owned three cats, foreign 
ones came fairly easily to us. I guess that they could smell cat on us 
and thus conclude that we could be trusted (as far as those stupid 
humans could be trusted of course). It was thus in particular that our 
third one elected us as new owners after he was thrown out of his former 
home. Since the demise of our cats, strangers seem to be more reluctant 
to come to us, but the differences of response between individual cats 
are wider somehow. It helps to use some cat language to communicate with 
them.

-- 
Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Good News Of The Day
Date: 12 May 2015 04:18:51
Message: <5551b76b$1@news.povray.org>
On 11-5-2015 20:40, clipka wrote:
Very nice!

Speaking about cats, do you know this book? 
http://www.amazon.com/Why-Cats-Paint-Theory-Aesthetics/dp/0898156122

Aside: John, don't show this to The Feegle!

-- 
Thomas


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Good News Of The Day
Date: 12 May 2015 04:45:01
Message: <5551bd8d$1@news.povray.org>
On 12/05/15 09:18, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> 
> Aside: John, don't show this to The Feegle!
> 
Warning duly noted.

John
-- 
Protect the Earth
It was not given to you by your parents
You hold it in trust for your children


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Good News Of The Day
Date: 12 May 2015 05:57:02
Message: <5551ce6e$1@news.povray.org>
Am 12.05.2015 um 07:10 schrieb Stephen:
> A nice story.
> It makes me quite envious. There are three cats that come into my garden
> and none of them will come near me. I am beginning to suspect that the
> previous occupant used to chase them.

Blink at them. Give them Jackson Galaxy's "slow blink" to tell them that 
you mean no harm.

https://youtu.be/ERJXwaTVPI8

It works not only with familiar cats, but also with complete strangers.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Good News Of The Day
Date: 12 May 2015 06:24:03
Message: <5551d4c3$1@news.povray.org>
On 12/05/2015 09:08, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 12-5-2015 7:10, Stephen wrote:
>> A nice story.
>> It makes me quite envious. There are three cats that come into my garden
>> and none of them will come near me. I am beginning to suspect that the
>> previous occupant used to chase them.
>>
>
> It might be that or something else. When we owned three cats, foreign
> ones came fairly easily to us. I guess that they could smell cat on us
> and thus conclude that we could be trusted (as far as those stupid
> humans could be trusted of course). It was thus in particular that our
> third one elected us as new owners after he was thrown out of his former
> home. Since the demise of our cats, strangers seem to be more reluctant
> to come to us, but the differences of response between individual cats
> are wider somehow. It helps to use some cat language to communicate with
> them.
>

The thing is, I can speak cat and dog. The best way to get a cat's 
attention (assuming it is not vocal) is to ignore it, I find.
I know what you mean by my scent but that has not been a problem before.
I tell you that when I get my next house I will be auditioning for 
another cat.

-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Good News Of The Day
Date: 12 May 2015 06:43:39
Message: <5551d95b$1@news.povray.org>
On 12/05/2015 10:57, clipka wrote:
> Am 12.05.2015 um 07:10 schrieb Stephen:
>> A nice story.
>> It makes me quite envious. There are three cats that come into my garden
>> and none of them will come near me. I am beginning to suspect that the
>> previous occupant used to chase them.
>
> Blink at them. Give them Jackson Galaxy's "slow blink" to tell them that
> you mean no harm.
>
> https://youtu.be/ERJXwaTVPI8
>
> It works not only with familiar cats, but also with complete strangers.
>

I know that Clipka although I do not agree that it means I love you. I 
think that it means that I trust you (enough not to look at you all the 
time). I even tried that wide mouthed high pitched meow that means "I am 
here". I even offered my shoulder for it to sit on but all I got was 
that "you must be joking" stare. The last resort will be to cover my 
face and cry.

-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Good News Of The Day
Date: 12 May 2015 07:02:08
Message: <5551ddb0$1@news.povray.org>
On 12-5-2015 12:43, Stephen wrote:
> On 12/05/2015 10:57, clipka wrote:
>> Am 12.05.2015 um 07:10 schrieb Stephen:
>>> A nice story.
>>> It makes me quite envious. There are three cats that come into my garden
>>> and none of them will come near me. I am beginning to suspect that the
>>> previous occupant used to chase them.
>>
>> Blink at them. Give them Jackson Galaxy's "slow blink" to tell them that
>> you mean no harm.
>>
>> https://youtu.be/ERJXwaTVPI8
>>
>> It works not only with familiar cats, but also with complete strangers.
>>

Absolutely! A couple of days ago I got a complete stranger falling over 
on his back that way. :-)

>
> I know that Clipka although I do not agree that it means I love you. I
> think that it means that I trust you (enough not to look at you all the
> time). I even tried that wide mouthed high pitched meow that means "I am
> here". I even offered my shoulder for it to sit on but all I got was
> that "you must be joking" stare. The last resort will be to cover my
> face and cry.
>

He must have sensed some hidden mischief ;-)

-- 
Thomas


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Good News Of The Day
Date: 12 May 2015 07:48:04
Message: <5551e874$1@news.povray.org>
Am 12.05.2015 um 12:43 schrieb Stephen:

>> Blink at them. Give them Jackson Galaxy's "slow blink" to tell them that
>> you mean no harm.
>> ...
> I know that Clipka although I do not agree that it means I love you. I
> think that it means that I trust you (enough not to look at you all the
> time).

No, it does go a good beyond that. Blink at a cat long enough, and from 
my experience it /will/ ultimately respond with some sign of trust 
(which may or may not involve blinking back at you)... or walk away.

Among cats, the slow blink is actually a /three-fold/ signal:

   (1) I don't feel the urge to be ready to defend against you.
   (2) I don't feel the urge to be ready to attack you.
   (3) I do feel the desire to keep contact with you.

In other words:

   (1) I trust you to some degree.
   (2) I tolerate your presence.
   (3) I am interested in you.

Or, to summarize it:

    => Let's be friends!

(1) and (2) are indicated by the absence of a stare, but to communicate 
those two messages alone a cat would normally just look away. In 
contrast, the added message (3) is communicated by keeping the head 
oriented towards the addressee, and even intermittently looking at them.

Sure, calling this "the cat 'I love you'" is an exaggeration of the 
message, but I think it makes for a suitable moniker.


> I even tried that wide mouthed high pitched meow that means "I am
> here".

Did you try the "Hello again!" coo?

> I even offered my shoulder for it to sit on but all I got was
> that "you must be joking" stare.

I'd give you that stare, too ;)

How about treats (give them a trail of treats leading towards you), or a 
cat teaser to distract them from your presence and engage them in some 
fun play?

> The last resort will be to cover my
> face and cry.

Or that. But I doubt that will help ;)


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