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On 12-5-2015 7:10, Stephen wrote:
> A nice story.
> It makes me quite envious. There are three cats that come into my garden
> and none of them will come near me. I am beginning to suspect that the
> previous occupant used to chase them.
>
It might be that or something else. When we owned three cats, foreign
ones came fairly easily to us. I guess that they could smell cat on us
and thus conclude that we could be trusted (as far as those stupid
humans could be trusted of course). It was thus in particular that our
third one elected us as new owners after he was thrown out of his former
home. Since the demise of our cats, strangers seem to be more reluctant
to come to us, but the differences of response between individual cats
are wider somehow. It helps to use some cat language to communicate with
them.
--
Thomas
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On 11-5-2015 20:40, clipka wrote:
Very nice!
Speaking about cats, do you know this book?
http://www.amazon.com/Why-Cats-Paint-Theory-Aesthetics/dp/0898156122
Aside: John, don't show this to The Feegle!
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Thomas
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On 12/05/15 09:18, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>
> Aside: John, don't show this to The Feegle!
>
Warning duly noted.
John
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Protect the Earth
It was not given to you by your parents
You hold it in trust for your children
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Am 12.05.2015 um 07:10 schrieb Stephen:
> A nice story.
> It makes me quite envious. There are three cats that come into my garden
> and none of them will come near me. I am beginning to suspect that the
> previous occupant used to chase them.
Blink at them. Give them Jackson Galaxy's "slow blink" to tell them that
you mean no harm.
https://youtu.be/ERJXwaTVPI8
It works not only with familiar cats, but also with complete strangers.
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On 12/05/2015 09:08, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 12-5-2015 7:10, Stephen wrote:
>> A nice story.
>> It makes me quite envious. There are three cats that come into my garden
>> and none of them will come near me. I am beginning to suspect that the
>> previous occupant used to chase them.
>>
>
> It might be that or something else. When we owned three cats, foreign
> ones came fairly easily to us. I guess that they could smell cat on us
> and thus conclude that we could be trusted (as far as those stupid
> humans could be trusted of course). It was thus in particular that our
> third one elected us as new owners after he was thrown out of his former
> home. Since the demise of our cats, strangers seem to be more reluctant
> to come to us, but the differences of response between individual cats
> are wider somehow. It helps to use some cat language to communicate with
> them.
>
The thing is, I can speak cat and dog. The best way to get a cat's
attention (assuming it is not vocal) is to ignore it, I find.
I know what you mean by my scent but that has not been a problem before.
I tell you that when I get my next house I will be auditioning for
another cat.
--
Regards
Stephen
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On 12/05/2015 10:57, clipka wrote:
> Am 12.05.2015 um 07:10 schrieb Stephen:
>> A nice story.
>> It makes me quite envious. There are three cats that come into my garden
>> and none of them will come near me. I am beginning to suspect that the
>> previous occupant used to chase them.
>
> Blink at them. Give them Jackson Galaxy's "slow blink" to tell them that
> you mean no harm.
>
> https://youtu.be/ERJXwaTVPI8
>
> It works not only with familiar cats, but also with complete strangers.
>
I know that Clipka although I do not agree that it means I love you. I
think that it means that I trust you (enough not to look at you all the
time). I even tried that wide mouthed high pitched meow that means "I am
here". I even offered my shoulder for it to sit on but all I got was
that "you must be joking" stare. The last resort will be to cover my
face and cry.
--
Regards
Stephen
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On 12-5-2015 12:43, Stephen wrote:
> On 12/05/2015 10:57, clipka wrote:
>> Am 12.05.2015 um 07:10 schrieb Stephen:
>>> A nice story.
>>> It makes me quite envious. There are three cats that come into my garden
>>> and none of them will come near me. I am beginning to suspect that the
>>> previous occupant used to chase them.
>>
>> Blink at them. Give them Jackson Galaxy's "slow blink" to tell them that
>> you mean no harm.
>>
>> https://youtu.be/ERJXwaTVPI8
>>
>> It works not only with familiar cats, but also with complete strangers.
>>
Absolutely! A couple of days ago I got a complete stranger falling over
on his back that way. :-)
>
> I know that Clipka although I do not agree that it means I love you. I
> think that it means that I trust you (enough not to look at you all the
> time). I even tried that wide mouthed high pitched meow that means "I am
> here". I even offered my shoulder for it to sit on but all I got was
> that "you must be joking" stare. The last resort will be to cover my
> face and cry.
>
He must have sensed some hidden mischief ;-)
--
Thomas
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Am 12.05.2015 um 12:43 schrieb Stephen:
>> Blink at them. Give them Jackson Galaxy's "slow blink" to tell them that
>> you mean no harm.
>> ...
> I know that Clipka although I do not agree that it means I love you. I
> think that it means that I trust you (enough not to look at you all the
> time).
No, it does go a good beyond that. Blink at a cat long enough, and from
my experience it /will/ ultimately respond with some sign of trust
(which may or may not involve blinking back at you)... or walk away.
Among cats, the slow blink is actually a /three-fold/ signal:
(1) I don't feel the urge to be ready to defend against you.
(2) I don't feel the urge to be ready to attack you.
(3) I do feel the desire to keep contact with you.
In other words:
(1) I trust you to some degree.
(2) I tolerate your presence.
(3) I am interested in you.
Or, to summarize it:
=> Let's be friends!
(1) and (2) are indicated by the absence of a stare, but to communicate
those two messages alone a cat would normally just look away. In
contrast, the added message (3) is communicated by keeping the head
oriented towards the addressee, and even intermittently looking at them.
Sure, calling this "the cat 'I love you'" is an exaggeration of the
message, but I think it makes for a suitable moniker.
> I even tried that wide mouthed high pitched meow that means "I am
> here".
Did you try the "Hello again!" coo?
> I even offered my shoulder for it to sit on but all I got was
> that "you must be joking" stare.
I'd give you that stare, too ;)
How about treats (give them a trail of treats leading towards you), or a
cat teaser to distract them from your presence and engage them in some
fun play?
> The last resort will be to cover my
> face and cry.
Or that. But I doubt that will help ;)
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On 12/05/2015 12:02, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> He must have sensed some hidden mischief ;-)
If it were one, I might agree. But three of them?
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Stephen
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On 12/05/2015 12:48, clipka wrote:
> Am 12.05.2015 um 12:43 schrieb Stephen:
>
>>> Blink at them. Give them Jackson Galaxy's "slow blink" to tell them that
>>> you mean no harm.
>>> ...
>> I know that Clipka although I do not agree that it means I love you. I
>> think that it means that I trust you (enough not to look at you all the
>> time).
>
> No, it does go a good beyond that. Blink at a cat long enough, and from
> my experience it /will/ ultimately respond with some sign of trust
> (which may or may not involve blinking back at you)... or walk away.
>
> Among cats, the slow blink is actually a /three-fold/ signal:
>
> (1) I don't feel the urge to be ready to defend against you.
> (2) I don't feel the urge to be ready to attack you.
> (3) I do feel the desire to keep contact with you.
>
> In other words:
>
> (1) I trust you to some degree.
> (2) I tolerate your presence.
> (3) I am interested in you.
>
> Or, to summarize it:
>
> => Let's be friends!
>
> (1) and (2) are indicated by the absence of a stare, but to communicate
> those two messages alone a cat would normally just look away. In
> contrast, the added message (3) is communicated by keeping the head
> oriented towards the addressee, and even intermittently looking at them.
>
All true but I did not want to write a thesis. ;-)
> Sure, calling this "the cat 'I love you'" is an exaggeration of the
> message, but I think it makes for a suitable moniker.
>
>
I am sure that Warp called it a cat smile.
>> I even tried that wide mouthed high pitched meow that means "I am
>> here".
>
> Did you try the "Hello again!" coo?
>
Every time I see it.
>> I even offered my shoulder for it to sit on but all I got was
>> that "you must be joking" stare.
>
> I'd give you that stare, too ;)
>
I wouldn't even let you sit on my lap. Even if you do purr. {Euch}
> How about treats (give them a trail of treats leading towards you), or a
> cat teaser to distract them from your presence and engage them in some
> fun play?
>
That is going too far. I don't think that my neighbour would approve of
me trying to entice their cat away from them.
>> The last resort will be to cover my
>> face and cry.
>
> Or that. But I doubt that will help ;)
>
Probably not. It is more of a dog thing.
--
Regards
Stephen
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