On 28/09/14 21:11, Stephen wrote:
> 
> Forgot to say that the good doctor and I are going for drinkie poos,
> Tuesday. You are more than welcome. :-D
> 

Indeed you are. ...and anyone else who happens to be in the area then.

John
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On 28-9-2014 20:56, Doctor John wrote:
> On 28/09/14 19:40, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:

>> Oh yeah. And the wedding is happening in Boston. (I don't know where
>> that is yet.)
>
> East Coast. So closer than you think

At some point in time google had a way to compute the travel by foot 
from europe to the US. That included some swimming and the point where 
you landed in the US was boston.

And also congratulate your sister from me.

(I once attended a Dutch-Sikh wedding in the US. These multicultural 
wedding can be interesting.)


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>> Oh yeah. And the wedding is happening in Boston. (I don't know where
>> that is yet.)
>
> A few miles before Skegness. ;-)

Damn...


> quite long about 9 hours with one change. As for the jet lag, there are
> ways around that.
> A couple of years ago I was working in New Mexico, just to the left of
> Texas. The journey time was 25 hours including layovers in Huston or
> Dallas. A little white pill from my doctor kept me awake for about 36
> hours after I got up and I was none of the worse for it. I went to bed
> night time US time and woke up daytime. Bingo! what is the problem?

Staying awake isn't the problem - it's trying to fall asleep. Hell, I 
can't sleep NOW, and I haven't been anywhere yet!

>> So... yeah. Obviously I have to be there. Naturally I'm terrified.
>
> So what! I have been terrified every time I've been on a plane for the
> last twenty years. All you need to do is sit there and not make a fool
> of yourself. You're not being asked to fly it.
> Sit back, don't look out of the window and be bored. Bored is good btw.

The plane doesn't worry me. But at the last family wedding, I managed to 
tell my cousin's new wife that her dress looks like some curtains we 
used to have...

Let's just hope I can manage to NOT SPEAK for a few hours, eh? :-S

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>> Given that I am now a home-owner, I presume I will never again be able
>> to afford such a thing.
>
> To the contrary, now you're a home-owner your credit rating has gone
> through the roof.

1. If you need to use credit, you have already lost.

2. Surely the fact that I now have large, immovable debts pressing down 
on me should vastly REDUCE my ability to pay back any additional loans?

>> Oh yeah. And the wedding is happening in Boston. (I don't know where
>> that is yet.)
>
> East Coast. So closer than you think

So... only the width of the entire Atlantic Ocean? :-P

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On 28/09/2014 09:31 PM, andrel wrote:
> (I once attended a Dutch-Sikh wedding in the US. These multicultural
> wedding can be interesting.)

"Interesting" is one way of putting it. Apparently the groom has invited 
over 400 people. My sister has so far invited about 20 people.

I've only actually met my new brother-in-law once. He only spoke once or 
twice during the entire day. I have no idea what his personality is. 
(Then again, I'm not marrying him...)

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On 28/09/14 21:47, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> 
> 2. Surely the fact that I now have large, immovable debts pressing down
> on me should vastly REDUCE my ability to pay back any additional loans?
> 

That seems not to be the way the way the W^HBankers see it

>>> Oh yeah. And the wedding is happening in Boston. (I don't know where
>>> that is yet.)
>>
>> East Coast. So closer than you think
> 
> So... only the width of the entire Atlantic Ocean? :-P

it's only a couple of inches on my map ;-)

We all know that you will attend the ceremony whatever it costs you.

John
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On 28/09/2014 21:47, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>>> Given that I am now a home-owner, I presume I will never again be able
>>> to afford such a thing.
>>
>> To the contrary, now you're a home-owner your credit rating has gone
>> through the roof.
>
> 1. If you need to use credit, you have already lost.
>

How 1950's

> 2. Surely the fact that I now have large, immovable debts pressing down
> on me should vastly REDUCE my ability to pay back any additional loans?
>

You would think so. But you are showing that you can pay your mortgage 
so your rating is high. I on the other hand paid all my credit off when 
I got made redundant, 20 years ago. My credit rating is very low.
For some people having a high rating is bad. I don't think you would 
have to worry too much.

>>> Oh yeah. And the wedding is happening in Boston. (I don't know where
>>> that is yet.)
>>
>> East Coast. So closer than you think
>
> So... only the width of the entire Atlantic Ocean? :-P

That's if they flew in a straight l Oops! Great Circle. If you are lucky 
Iceland is where you would change planes.

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On 28/09/2014 21:45, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>>> Oh yeah. And the wedding is happening in Boston. (I don't know where
>>> that is yet.)
>>
>> A few miles before Skegness. ;-)
>
> Damn...
>

Yes it was our town first. ;-)



> Staying awake isn't the problem - it's trying to fall asleep. Hell, I
> can't sleep NOW, and I haven't been anywhere yet!
>

Staying awake for 24 hours sometimes helps you get to sleep.


>>> So... yeah. Obviously I have to be there. Naturally I'm terrified.
>>
>> So what! I have been terrified every time I've been on a plane for the
>> last twenty years. All you need to do is sit there and not make a fool
>> of yourself. You're not being asked to fly it.
>> Sit back, don't look out of the window and be bored. Bored is good btw.
>
> The plane doesn't worry me. But at the last family wedding, I managed to
> tell my cousin's new wife that her dress looks like some curtains we
> used to have...
>

Okay fair point. Any chance that your sister will run off with Mrs 
Robinson, so it is called off? ;-)


> Let's just hope I can manage to NOT SPEAK for a few hours, eh? :-S

Put on a West Country accent. They will never understnd wht you are 
saying but think you cute.

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     Stephen

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Am 28.09.2014 20:40, schrieb Orchid Win7 v1:

> So yeah. This is going to mean some big changes. First, the guy she's
> marrying lives in America. So she's moving to America, and I'll probably
> never see her again. Second, his entire family is Greek Orthodox, so
> she's in training for that. (I really hope this doesn't mean she turns
> into one of those crazy religious fundamentalists...)

Haven't heard of any Greek Orthodox people wrapping TNT around their 
bellies or publicly burning Kur-ans recently, if that's what you're 
worrying about. AFAIK they're quite into sticking to their rituals, 
rather than trying to change the world.

> Oh yeah. And the wedding is happening in Boston. (I don't know where
> that is yet.)

East coast, New England. One of the cradles of that crazy religious 
fundamentalism, but aside from the Halloween season the locals are not 
into witch hunts anymore (been there, seen it).

> On the one hand, I really don't want to go to America. I don't went to
> spend thousands of pounds to sit on a million-hour flight to end up in a
> hostile nation and spent two weeks jet-lagged.

The leg over to America is usually rather easy. It's the leg back 
that'll give you the lags.

Also, there are probably direct flights to Boston.

As I mentioned already, the people in the Boston area are quite 
civilized these days. After all, they've had the most time to settle in 
and regain some of their sanity after having been crammed in a tiny boat 
for over two months without seeing any dry land (not to mention living 
on that same boat for an additional four more months anchored at Cape 
Cod Bay during the winter), which certainly must have been a 
traumatizing experience.

Also, the open hostilities between the Bostoners and the British Empire 
are said to have mostly ceased by now. They even paid for the tea a few 
years back.

> On the other hand, IT'S MY SISTER'S WEDDING! She's my only sister, it's
> the single most important day of her entire life... what sort of
> arsehole would I be if I'm not there?
>
> So... yeah. Obviously I have to be there. Naturally I'm terrified. But
> the wedding doesn't happen for ages, so no need to panic just yet. (The
> wedding is approximately 1 year from now.) Plenty of time to worry about
> it later.

... or plenty of time to rehearse panicking. (My advice: Don't ;-))

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>> Staying awake isn't the problem - it's trying to fall asleep. Hell, I
>> can't sleep NOW, and I haven't been anywhere yet!
>>
>
> Staying awake for 24 hours sometimes helps you get to sleep.

When I used to go to Japan I found that sleeping for 2-3 hours late 
afternoon after travelling was the best way to avoid any jet lag. I 
would then get up around 6pm, go and have dinner, then go to bed and 
sleep pretty normally after that. But anyway, Andy is going on 
*holiday*, so who cares if you are a bit tired or can't sleep, it's not 
like you're going to be sat in a boring meeting or getting up at 7am !!!

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