Is it just a biased perspective caused by a poor sampling method (just 
browsing YouTube), or are Christian fundamentalists in the USA currently 
zeroing in on a new enemy?

Before 9/11, "the beast" of Revelations seems to have been identified 
mostly as either the Vatican or the UN.

In the decade after 9/11, Christian fundamentalists seem to have been 
entirely focused on Islam as their favorite Evil Incarnate.

Now I find videos on YouTube that identify "the beast" with the EU in 
general or Germany in particular.

Did I just chance upon a small subset of US-American Christian 
fundamentalism, or is this an actual trend? I'd find the latter quite 
alarming.

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On 21/09/2014 16:44, clipka wrote:
> Is it just a biased perspective caused by a poor sampling method (just
> browsing YouTube), or are Christian fundamentalists in the USA currently
> zeroing in on a new enemy?
>
> Before 9/11, "the beast" of Revelations seems to have been identified
> mostly as either the Vatican or the UN.
>
> In the decade after 9/11, Christian fundamentalists seem to have been
> entirely focused on Islam as their favorite Evil Incarnate.
>
> Now I find videos on YouTube that identify "the beast" with the EU in
> general or Germany in particular.
>
> Did I just chance upon a small subset of US-American Christian
> fundamentalism, or is this an actual trend? I'd find the latter quite
> alarming.

Oh Yes, I've noticed that too.
Definitely the EU and the masters of that abdominal country. France gets 
it too. Anyone who criticises America is in the Devils pocket. And as 
Germany is the financial power of the EU (can you believe that the EU 
takes American companies to court?). You are Evil incarnate. England 
(I'll let the wanton ignorance pass for once) is okay because they like 
poodles with teeth. But if we deign to disapprove then we are a wee 
scumbag of an island.

In my opinion.

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     Stephen

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On Sun, 21 Sep 2014 17:44:52 +0200, clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:

> Is it just a biased perspective caused by a poor sampling method (just  
> browsing YouTube), or are Christian fundamentalists in the USA currently  
> zeroing in on a new enemy?
>
> Before 9/11, "the beast" of Revelations seems to have been identified  
> mostly as either the Vatican or the UN.
>
> In the decade after 9/11, Christian fundamentalists seem to have been  
> entirely focused on Islam as their favorite Evil Incarnate.
>
> Now I find videos on YouTube that identify "the beast" with the EU in  
> general or Germany in particular.
>
> Did I just chance upon a small subset of US-American Christian  
> fundamentalism, or is this an actual trend? I'd find the latter quite  
> alarming.

I see these "Beast" identifiers in the same light as Rapture Date  
Prophets. They keep changing their target. I think they're just looking  
for attention because their churches are running empty or something.

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On 21-9-2014 19:14, Stephen wrote:
> On 21/09/2014 16:44, clipka wrote:
>> Is it just a biased perspective caused by a poor sampling method (just
>> browsing YouTube), or are Christian fundamentalists in the USA currently
>> zeroing in on a new enemy?
>>
>> Before 9/11, "the beast" of Revelations seems to have been identified
>> mostly as either the Vatican or the UN.
>>
>> In the decade after 9/11, Christian fundamentalists seem to have been
>> entirely focused on Islam as their favorite Evil Incarnate.
>>
>> Now I find videos on YouTube that identify "the beast" with the EU in
>> general or Germany in particular.
>>
>> Did I just chance upon a small subset of US-American Christian
>> fundamentalism, or is this an actual trend? I'd find the latter quite
>> alarming.
>
> Oh Yes, I've noticed that too.
> Definitely the EU and the masters of that abdominal country. France gets
> it too. Anyone who criticises America is in the Devils pocket. And as
> Germany is the financial power of the EU (can you believe that the EU
> takes American companies to court?). You are Evil incarnate. England
> (I'll let the wanton ignorance pass for once) is okay because they like
> poodles with teeth. But if we deign to disapprove then we are a wee
> scumbag of an island.
>
> In my opinion.

you mean that the US is noticing that its influence in the world is 
rapidly declining, so if they want to attack everyone that has influence 
in the same ballpark, the number of targets is increasing?

Another explanation: a post hoc justification for spying on the 
bundeskanzler and other European allies?



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On 21/09/2014 20:57, andrel wrote:
> On 21-9-2014 19:14, Stephen wrote:


>
> you mean that the US is noticing that its influence in the world is
> rapidly declining, so if they want to attack everyone that has influence
> in the same ballpark, the number of targets is increasing?
>
> Another explanation: a post hoc justification for spying on the
> bundeskanzler and other European allies?
>

Christian fundamentalists, in the States. You know, the real fruit loops.
As for the American government spying on their friends. They need to 
know that they are friends. I am sure that most governments would do the 
same if they could. The crime is getting caught.


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     Stephen

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On Sun, 21 Sep 2014 17:44:52 +0200, clipka wrote:

> Before 9/11, "the beast" of Revelations seems to have been identified
> mostly as either the Vatican or the UN.

The thing that I find really interesting is that one of the things that 
was perceived to be wrong with John Kerry (similar to the issue some had 
with JFK as a candidate) was the idea that their Catholicism meant that 
they would be controlled by the Pope.

Yet look at the makeup of SCOTUS, look at the rulings, and tell me that 
the biggest issue of this nature is actually isn't the appointed justices 
on the highest court in the US.

Jim
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besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw

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Am 21.09.2014 19:59, schrieb Nekar Xenos:

>> Did I just chance upon a small subset of US-American Christian
>> fundamentalism, or is this an actual trend? I'd find the latter quite
>> alarming.
>
> I see these "Beast" identifiers in the same light as Rapture Date
> Prophets. They keep changing their target. I think they're just looking
> for attention because their churches are running empty or something.

Nah, I think they're just as alive, kicking and crazy as they've been 
ever since the Pilgrim Fathers; so if (or when?) another crackpot from 
among their ranks makes it into the Oval Office, I think I'd like to 
know whether I should better move to some more rural area.

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On 21-9-2014 17:44, clipka wrote:
> Is it just a biased perspective caused by a poor sampling method (just
> browsing YouTube), or are Christian fundamentalists in the USA currently
> zeroing in on a new enemy?
>
> Before 9/11, "the beast" of Revelations seems to have been identified
> mostly as either the Vatican or the UN.
>
> In the decade after 9/11, Christian fundamentalists seem to have been
> entirely focused on Islam as their favorite Evil Incarnate.
>
> Now I find videos on YouTube that identify "the beast" with the EU in
> general or Germany in particular.
>
> Did I just chance upon a small subset of US-American Christian
> fundamentalism, or is this an actual trend? I'd find the latter quite
> alarming.

That is interesting. In Christian terms the devil being the entity most 
to be feared (probably more for its Faustian temptations than for its 
fearful aspect, despite all iconography), this tells us a lot about the 
changing role of the EU in the world, compared to the US. Alarming? 
Maybe. Changes in the balance of power are always globally unsettling 
indeed. And, Fundamentalist Americans discovered recently that there is 
an outside world beyond their doorstep. I would be frightened indeed ;-)

Thomas

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> Is it just a biased perspective caused by a poor sampling method (just
> browsing YouTube), or are Christian fundamentalists in the USA currently
> zeroing in on a new enemy?
>
> Before 9/11, "the beast" of Revelations seems to have been identified
> mostly as either the Vatican or the UN.
>
> In the decade after 9/11, Christian fundamentalists seem to have been
> entirely focused on Islam as their favorite Evil Incarnate.
>
> Now I find videos on YouTube that identify "the beast" with the EU in
> general or Germany in particular.
>
> Did I just chance upon a small subset of US-American Christian
> fundamentalism, or is this an actual trend? I'd find the latter quite
> alarming.

In general, when you sell fear, it's good to have a visible represention 
of what "THEY" look like, and the Soviets don't really fit the bill any 
more.

While some of the older ones may fear a powerful Germany rising from its 
ashes, most are mostly fearful of things like paid maternity leaves, and 
4+ weeks of vacation per year that Europeans get, because talk show 
hosts tell them this is a bad thing.


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On 22/09/2014 13:39, Francois Labreque wrote:
> In general, when you sell fear, it's good to have a visible represention
> of what "THEY" look like, and the Soviets don't really fit the bill any
> more.

Do you want to look again? ;-)

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     Stephen

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