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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Experimental
Date: 4 Mar 2014 18:20:47
Message: <53165fcf$1@news.povray.org>
On 04/03/2014 10:19 PM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>
>> But if it
>> doesn't work you may have a problem with your neighbors ;>
>
> Also agreed. :-S



WTF!
If you are worried about a clause in your lease that says that you 
cannot make any noise. And if it specifically mentions singing. You have 
no worries. It is (IMO) unenforceable.
As long as you don't make continuous loud noise after 10 pm (earlier if 
they have babies). You should not have a problem.

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     Stephen

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From: Le Forgeron
Subject: Re: Experimental
Date: 5 Mar 2014 00:33:48
Message: <5316b73c$1@news.povray.org>
Le 05/03/2014 00:20, Stephen nous fit lire :
> As long as you don't make continuous loud noise after 10 pm (earlier if
> they have babies).

If they have babies, they are the one making more noise.

Unless you use some micro+amplifier, or are a true opera singer (or an
extinct singer from the era before micro came on the scene), your voice
is to be weaker than the one of a baby or a little child.
Strong volume of voice requires long daily practice, something that
adults rarely have, whereas the kids have nothing else to do.


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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: Experimental
Date: 5 Mar 2014 03:28:00
Message: <5316e010$1@news.povray.org>
On 05/03/2014 05:33 AM, Le_Forgeron wrote:
> If they have babies, they are the one making more noise.

This.

> Unless you use some micro+amplifier, or are a true opera singer (or an
> extinct singer from the era before micro came on the scene), your voice
> is to be weaker than the one of a baby or a little child.
> Strong volume of voice requires long daily practice, something that
> adults rarely have, whereas the kids have nothing else to do.

This is true. However, it is also true that the walls here are extremely 
thin. I can often hear the people next door talking, and can mostly make 
out the words they're saying, for example.


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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: Experimental
Date: 5 Mar 2014 03:29:14
Message: <5316e05a$1@news.povray.org>
On 04/03/2014 11:20 PM, Stephen wrote:
> WTF!
> If you are worried about a clause in your lease that says that you
> cannot make any noise. And if it specifically mentions singing. You have
> no worries. It is (IMO) unenforceable.
> As long as you don't make continuous loud noise after 10 pm (earlier if
> they have babies). You should not have a problem.

The lease says I may not play a musical instrument, sing, or operate a 
TV or radio. These are things it specifically mentions.

On the other hand, I'm pretty sure the guy on the left has a TV, so...


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Experimental
Date: 5 Mar 2014 07:35:00
Message: <web.5317198bb1f8f68e7f6b03a40@news.povray.org>
Le_Forgeron <jgr### [at] freefr> wrote:
> Le 05/03/2014 00:20, Stephen nous fit lire :
> > As long as you don't make continuous loud noise after 10 pm (earlier if
> > they have babies).
>
> If they have babies, they are the one making more noise.
>

Exactly! The clause is unenforceable.

> Unless you use some micro+amplifier, or are a true opera singer (or an
> extinct singer from the era before micro came on the scene), your voice
> is to be weaker than the one of a baby or a little child.
> Strong volume of voice requires long daily practice, something that
> adults rarely have, whereas the kids have nothing else to do.

Personal experience? :-)


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Experimental
Date: 5 Mar 2014 07:50:01
Message: <web.53171d2ab1f8f68e7f6b03a40@news.povray.org>
Orchid Win7 v1 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> On 04/03/2014 11:20 PM, Stephen wrote:
> > WTF!
> > If you are worried about a clause in your lease that says that you
> > cannot make any noise. And if it specifically mentions singing. You have
> > no worries. It is (IMO) unenforceable.
> > As long as you don't make continuous loud noise after 10 pm (earlier if
> > they have babies). You should not have a problem.
>
> The lease says I may not play a musical instrument, sing, or operate a
> TV or radio. These are things it specifically mentions.
>

Nor should you believe in the tooth fairy?

Seriously how could anyone expect a court to uphold a lease that forbids singing
or turning on a radio. Even Jails have TVs in the cells. AFAIK.

> On the other hand, I'm pretty sure the guy on the left has a TV, so...

I am sure, from what I have read. That you will be safe if you ignore those
rules. If you behave reasonably what could happen? It is your house after all.


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From: Francois Labreque
Subject: Re: Experimental
Date: 5 Mar 2014 08:54:50
Message: <53172caa$1@news.povray.org>

> On 04/03/2014 11:20 PM, Stephen wrote:
>> WTF!
>> If you are worried about a clause in your lease that says that you
>> cannot make any noise. And if it specifically mentions singing. You have
>> no worries. It is (IMO) unenforceable.
>> As long as you don't make continuous loud noise after 10 pm (earlier if
>> they have babies). You should not have a problem.
>
> The lease says I may not play a musical instrument,

So I guess getting a pipe organ in the living room is out of the 
question.  Bummer.

> sing,

Define singing.  "Your honour, I wasn't singing... I was merely 
practicing my Italian."  Is rapping allowed?  Humming?  Tuvan thorat 
singing?

> or operate a TV or radio.

Does it mention MP3 player?  Streaming audio from the PC?  I smell a 
loophole...

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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Experimental
Date: 5 Mar 2014 09:19:05
Message: <53173259$1@news.povray.org>
On 05/03/14 13:54, Francois Labreque wrote:

>> On 04/03/2014 11:20 PM, Stephen wrote:
>>> WTF!
>>> If you are worried about a clause in your lease that says that you
>>> cannot make any noise. And if it specifically mentions singing. You have
>>> no worries. It is (IMO) unenforceable.
>>> As long as you don't make continuous loud noise after 10 pm (earlier if
>>> they have babies). You should not have a problem.
>>
>> The lease says I may not play a musical instrument,
> 
> So I guess getting a pipe organ in the living room is out of the
> question.  Bummer.
> 
>> sing,
> 
> Define singing.  "Your honour, I wasn't singing... I was merely
> practicing my Italian."  Is rapping allowed?  Humming?  Tuvan thorat
> singing?
> 
>> or operate a TV or radio.
> 
> Does it mention MP3 player?  Streaming audio from the PC?  I smell a
> loophole...
> 

Forget the loopholes. As Stephen has said, the clause is almost
certainly unenforceable. Which raises the question, why didn't Andrew's
solicitors read the lease and point out the clause, if only to let the
other party's solicitors know that it should have been struck out.

John
-- 
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It was not given to you by your parents
You hold it in trust for your children


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From: Orchid Win7 v1
Subject: Re: Experimental
Date: 4 May 2014 16:20:54
Message: <5366a126$1@news.povray.org>
On 04/03/2014 08:03 PM, Nekar Xenos wrote:
> You will probably get a more stable pitch if you sing louder. But if it
> doesn't work you may have a problem with your neighbors ;>

Well, my mum is out of the county for a few days, so I spent all of 
today sitting in my old bedroom, singing my lungs out.

You wouldn't believe it could take 5 hours to record 5 minutes of 
vocals, would you? (Or... perhaps you would... IDK.)

Now I'm trying to mix them nicely. Trouble is, if I apply an aggressive 
compander, it makes all the harmonies the same loudness, but every time 
I stop singing, it amplifies the hell out of the background hiss! I 
wonder if there's some way I can cut out all the noise...


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Experimental
Date: 27 May 2014 15:56:19
Message: <5384ede3$1@news.povray.org>
Am 04.05.2014 22:20, schrieb Orchid Win7 v1:

> Now I'm trying to mix them nicely. Trouble is, if I apply an aggressive
> compander, it makes all the harmonies the same loudness, but every time
> I stop singing, it amplifies the hell out of the background hiss! I
> wonder if there's some way I can cut out all the noise...

There is. It is called a "noise gate" or simply "gate".


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