I got to try the development version of Oculus Rift.

One slight problem I have ever had with "fake" 3D, eg. with 3D movies,
is that I don't easily get the impression of things coming "out" of the
screen (ie. closer to me than the screen is). To some degree yes, but
the closer the thing is supposed to be to the viewer, the less capable
I am of seeing it like that, for some reason. (Instead, it tends to
look blurred, even doubled.)

With the Oculus Rift, however, the impression of depth was just perfect,
no matter how far or, especially, how close the detail is supposed to be.
Even things that are like a few centimeters from your face really looked
like they were that close. Nothing looked like I had trouble focusing,
nor did I get any image-doubling problems.

(The Oculus Rift uses lenses so that you can focus your eyes to the
distance, and the image will look sharp like that. It would obviously
not work at all if it didn't have such lenses.)

The only problem with the development version is that it has a
ridiculously small resolution. The final version will apparently have
a full-hd 1080p resolution, so it ought to look much better.

I am actually eagerly awaiting for the final version to come out.
I really want to play games like Portal 2 with one. (Even if it turns
out to be just a temporary fad, a curiosity that's in practice unsuitable
to be used for long periods of time to play games eg. because it's too
straining, I think that it will still be cool enough to purchase, even
if it's expensive.)

I really hope that they do the smart thing in games that have direct
support for it, ie. that you don't turn by turning your head, but turning
your head just turns the "camera" (not the direction where you are pointing
at, ie. the direction that your weapon points to and where you walk when
you press the forward key.)

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On 14/12/2013 9:40 PM, Warp wrote:
> I really hope that they do the smart thing in games that have direct
> support for it, ie. that you don't turn by turning your head, but turning
> your head just turns the "camera" (not the direction where you are pointing
> at, ie. the direction that your weapon points to and where you walk when
> you press the forward key.)

I was reading about Oculus Rift yesterday as Elite: Dangerous will 
support it. The impression I got was that it will do the smart thing, as 
you put it. Do you know if you can wear glasses with Oculus Rift?
The write up sounds impressive.

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Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:
> I was reading about Oculus Rift yesterday as Elite: Dangerous will 
> support it. The impression I got was that it will do the smart thing, as 
> you put it. Do you know if you can wear glasses with Oculus Rift?
> The write up sounds impressive.

I don't know the details, but it might be that you don't need to.
(I don't know if the lenses will be adjustable, like those of binoculars,
or something else. I doubt you would be able to wear normal glasses
while wearing the device.)

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On 15/12/2013 00:06, Warp wrote:
> Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:
>> I was reading about Oculus Rift yesterday as Elite: Dangerous will
>> support it. The impression I got was that it will do the smart thing, as
>> you put it. Do you know if you can wear glasses with Oculus Rift?
>> The write up sounds impressive.
>
> I don't know the details, but it might be that you don't need to.
> (I don't know if the lenses will be adjustable, like those of binoculars,
> or something else. I doubt you would be able to wear normal glasses
> while wearing the device.)
>

... which rules me out

John (aka 4 eyes)

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Doctor John <j.g### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> On 15/12/2013 00:06, Warp wrote:
> > Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:
> >> I was reading about Oculus Rift yesterday as Elite: Dangerous will
> >> support it. The impression I got was that it will do the smart thing, as
> >> you put it. Do you know if you can wear glasses with Oculus Rift?
> >> The write up sounds impressive.
> >
> > I don't know the details, but it might be that you don't need to.
> > (I don't know if the lenses will be adjustable, like those of binoculars,
> > or something else. I doubt you would be able to wear normal glasses
> > while wearing the device.)
> >

> ... which rules me out

> John (aka 4 eyes)

Adjustable lenses rules you out?

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On 15/12/2013 07:44, Warp wrote:
>
> Adjustable lenses rules you out?
>

Sorry. I misread your post.

John

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Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> I got to try the development version of Oculus Rift.
>
> One slight problem I have ever had with "fake" 3D

it's no more fake 3D than your own stereoscopic vision

holographic projection is still way off so static stereoscopic recording is
still our best bet

still I indeed believe photorealistic 3D imagery plus Oculus Rift-like tech will
become much more affordable than holography

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Am 17.12.2013 19:22, schrieb nemesis:
> Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
>> I got to try the development version of Oculus Rift.
>>
>> One slight problem I have ever had with "fake" 3D
>
> it's no more fake 3D than your own stereoscopic vision

You're mistaken there: Depth perception is not only a matter of 
parallax, but - at distances of <5m or so - also of focus.

If the Oculus Rift manages to provide a sharp image regardless of what 
distance the eye tries to focus at, then that's a big win (and a 
literally incredible feat).

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nemesis <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> > I got to try the development version of Oculus Rift.
> >
> > One slight problem I have ever had with "fake" 3D

> it's no more fake 3D than your own stereoscopic vision

It's quite lacking compared to actual 3D geometry because the eye can
discern distance also by how it has to focus on the object. None of
these technologies can (yet) distinguish where you are focusing with
your eyes, and modify the image accordingly.

I don't know why I have trouble seeing objects close to the viewer
in 3D movies (it's not *impossible*, but I have to make some effort
to make it happen) but it might be at least partially related to this.

Btw, given that 3D movies are being (AFAIK) published in BluRay format,
it seems that Oculus Rift would be the perfect way of watching them.
Significantly more immersive than just a 3D TV (because the field of
vision with OR is pretty large.)

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clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
> If the Oculus Rift manages to provide a sharp image regardless of what 
> distance the eye tries to focus at, then that's a big win (and a 
> literally incredible feat).

It's not like it somehow senses where you are focusing, but the lenses
allow you to focus to the distance (even though the display is just a
few centimeters from your eyes.)

I don't know exactly how or why, but the depth effect was way better
than with 3D movies. Objects close to the viewer really looked like
being close to the viewer (something I have trouble getting in 3D
movies, as I have mentioned.)

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