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On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 15:37:12 +0100, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> For example, the layout was
> poor "in places" - but note the absence of any mention of /which/
> places. Thorough appraisal, I think not. :-P
Well, of course they're not going to tell you which places - they want
you to pay them for that information.
"Your CV looks pretty good, but areas of it are crap, and if you give us
money, we'll tell you where the crap is."
Jim
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On 19/09/2012 04:44 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 15:37:12 +0100, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>
>> For example, the layout was
>> poor "in places" - but note the absence of any mention of /which/
>> places. Thorough appraisal, I think not. :-P
>
> Well, of course they're not going to tell you which places - they want
> you to pay them for that information.
>
> "Your CV looks pretty good, but areas of it are crap, and if you give us
> money, we'll tell you where the crap is."
It's one thing to say which bits are bad - it's another to explain what
would make it better.
Really, I believe it doesn't say because it's actually just an automated
message that has nothing to do with me. ;-)
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On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 17:01:46 +0100, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>> Well, of course they're not going to tell you which places - they want
>> you to pay them for that information.
>>
>> "Your CV looks pretty good, but areas of it are crap, and if you give
>> us money, we'll tell you where the crap is."
>
> It's one thing to say which bits are bad - it's another to explain what
> would make it better.
Not telling you makes it more likely that the person would go "oh, right,
I need to fix that" and not pay for the service. The more vague, the
better.
But in terms of selling a service, you want to be vague in this manner to
try to sell the service. If I tell you that the description for your
first job entry is poorly formatted, you know what to fix and can seek
out sample CVs to see how you could make it better.
If I don't tell you, then you don't even know what to search for.
> Really, I believe it doesn't say because it's actually just an automated
> message that has nothing to do with me. ;-)
That's also likely true.
Jim
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On 9/19/2012 9:30 AM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> Hi Andrew,
>
> Thank you for requesting a FREE CV review from Total-CVs. I have given
> your CV a thorough appraisal. Please find the results set out below.
>
... rest of spam trashed ...
Well, at least it wasn't:
> Hey, job seeker! I saw your resume on [job seeker website] We have a great new
opportunity and you can work at home! The requirements are:
>
> + You have a pulse
> + You know how to push a button
> + Email skills and a rudimentary understanding of the English language is a plus
>
> If you have these you can earn /up to/ $3000* per month Oo
>
> * Actual salary may vary based on market conditions and total monthly sales.
First, they don't even have the common decency to actually look at my
resume. If they did, they'd know instantly that I would not be
interested in that line of work. Why would I work for someone that
already doesn't respect who I am?
Second. That's like .... half my base salary!
--
~Mike
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On 9/19/2012 10:37, Jim Henderson wrote:
> But in terms of selling a service, you want to be vague in this manner to
> try to sell the service.
It's not so much that they're selling a service as that they're selling
information. They package it as a service, because otherwise they can't get
you to pay for it after they already delivered it. The problem with selling
information is there's no way for the buyer to evaluate it before they
already have it irrevocably in hand.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
"They're the 1-800-#-GORILA of the telecom business."
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On 23/09/2012 10:24 PM, Darren New wrote:
> The problem with
> selling information is there's no way for the buyer to evaluate it
> before they already have it irrevocably in hand.
Apparently there is - it's called "zero information proof". ;-)
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On 9/23/2012 14:44, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
> On 23/09/2012 10:24 PM, Darren New wrote:
>> The problem with
>> selling information is there's no way for the buyer to evaluate it
>> before they already have it irrevocably in hand.
>
> Apparently there is - it's called "zero information proof". ;-)
The whole point of a ZIP is to not give the person the information. ;-P
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
"They're the 1-800-#-GORILA of the telecom business."
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On 23/09/2012 10:57 PM, Darren New wrote:
> On 9/23/2012 14:44, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>> On 23/09/2012 10:24 PM, Darren New wrote:
>>> The problem with
>>> selling information is there's no way for the buyer to evaluate it
>>> before they already have it irrevocably in hand.
>>
>> Apparently there is - it's called "zero information proof". ;-)
>
> The whole point of a ZIP is to not give the person the information. ;-P
Indeed. You use ZIP to prove that you /could/ give them the information,
if they paid you for it. ;-)
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On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 14:24:49 -0700, Darren New wrote:
> On 9/19/2012 10:37, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> But in terms of selling a service, you want to be vague in this manner
>> to try to sell the service.
>
> It's not so much that they're selling a service as that they're selling
> information. They package it as a service, because otherwise they can't
> get you to pay for it after they already delivered it. The problem with
> selling information is there's no way for the buyer to evaluate it
> before they already have it irrevocably in hand.
True.
Jim
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Reminds me of the time I got an out-of-the-blue offer for a job
interview for a position selling life insurance. I tried to tell the
caller that I had no experience in that line of work (with the
implication that he was barking up the wrong tree). He said, with a
level of dejection that I now suspect was feigned, "Well, it's not
everyone who can make $100,000 per year," and ended the call.
Later I got a second call from someone else at the same company. I had
nothing to lose by coming to the interview, so I agreed and was given a
time to show, at a conference room at a local hotel.
I got there, dressed for an interview and bearing a CV, and discovered
that it was NOT a job interview in the sense of what we envision when we
hear the words "job" and "interview" in that order. Instead it was a
pitch to a group of us (about twenty) to persuade us to enroll in a
training program to obtain a life insurance sales license. (If you work
hard enough, you can earn $100,000 per year in commissions. That's
where _that_ figure comes from.)
The fee for the training was $100 (or thereabouts). After the spiel was
over, we were directed to line up to be processed separately. When I
got to the head of the line the lady handling things asked me for the
$100 fee, at which point I told her that if I could come up with $100 at
a moment's notice, I would not have come looking for work. I added some
more cross words that I will not repeat here.
That night I went back to job I already had.
Regards,
John
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