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Warp escreveu:
> nemesis <nam### [at] gmail com> wrote:
>> Warp escreveu:
>>> (For example, good luck trying to stop Sony from getting any of your
>>> money.)
>
>> hey, Microsoft makes money off of Linux and Android, so what would you
>> know?... :p
>
> I don't think its comparable. Maybe MS makes money *using* Linux and
> Android, but that doesn't mean that *your* money goes to MS when you "buy"
> Linux or Android (them costing nothing, after all).
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-09-29/tech/30216822_1_htc-microsoft-android-device
patent deals after heavy FUD.
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On 4/11/2012 6:05, Invisible wrote:
> Currently I'm seriously ****ed off with Amazon. When you buy something from
> them and the price on screen is X, you expect to pay X, plus some negligible
> amount for postage. You to /not/ expect to pay 1.5 X.
What was the increase? Postage? Did you buy from amazon, or from someone
selling their stuff through amazon?
> But hey, what can you do? It's not as if you can, I don't know, /file a
> complaint/ or anything. Nor that they would even /care/ if you did...
I think you underestimate amazon's customer service. They're one of the best
in the business.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
"Oh no! We're out of code juice!"
"Don't panic. There's beans and filters
in the cabinet."
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On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 15:12:07 +0100, Invisible wrote:
> Hmm. That still seems awfully low for the most expensive brand of car in
> the entire world...
Faulty assumption there as well.
Off the top of my head: Lamborghini, Bugatti, and McLaren are all likely
candidates to be more expensive than a Ferrari.
The Mercedes Benz CLR McLaren will set you back about $450K.
Jim
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On 12/04/2012 06:56 PM, nemesis wrote:
> Le_Forgeron escreveu:
>> Le 12/04/2012 10:15, Invisible nous fit lire :
>>>> oh, you're crying for nothing.
>>>>
>>>> trying to import a Kindle reader from Brazil means you're supposed to
>>>> pay 109 for the product and more than that for the import fees,
>>>> effectively more than doubling the final price.
>>> But the question is, do they *tell* you that before you actually
>>> purchase the thing? Or do you just find out after the fact?
>
> they state it as such and is why I don't have a kindle. :(
Right. So they warn you it's going to cost a fortune before you buy it.
It's kinda sad that it costs so much, but not really Amazon's fault.
My problem is that I wasn't told there would be a steep import duty to
pay. If I had known that, I wouldn't have purchased the product. But
they didn't warn me. (Hell, I didn't even know that it was coming from a
different country. Or that it wasn't Amazon themselves selling it...)
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>> Hmm. That still seems awfully low for the most expensive brand of car in
>> the entire world...
>
> Faulty assumption there as well.
>
> Off the top of my head: Lamborghini, Bugatti, and McLaren are all likely
> candidates to be more expensive than a Ferrari.
Is Lamborghini still going? And for that matter, I didn't know that
Bugatti or McLaren actually /make/ road cars.
> The Mercedes Benz CLR McLaren will set you back about $450K.
That's still quite a bit less than the £800,000 I was expecting to pay
for the most basic entry-level Ferrari. I was expecting a top-end one to
be several million, if not tens of millions.
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>> I tell you what, if somebody even managed to pull that off in the first
>> place, even if they only made one single usable CD, I'd still be pretty
>> impressed. :-D Yeah, that ain't gonna be cheap though. ;-)
>
> It's actually quite an interesting problem. What is the cheapest way to
> manufacture: a) 1 CD, b) 100 CDs, c) 10000 CDs, d) 1000000 CDs. You can
> do the same for cars, circuit boards, bikes, organs, whatever.
The cheapest was to manufacture 1 CD is obviously to pay somebody else
to do it.
As far as I know, it's impossible to manufacture a CD in your basement.
You need cleanroom conditions and equipment that can operate at
literally microscopic tolerances. It's not like you can just buy that
kind of thing off the shelf. Heck, just buying equipment for moulding
plastic isn't exactly easy. And then you've got to buy the plastic.
Sure, somebody somewhere must sell this stuff... good luck finding them!
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On 12/04/2012 05:28 PM, Darren New wrote:
> On 4/11/2012 6:05, Invisible wrote:
>> Currently I'm seriously ****ed off with Amazon. When you buy something
>> from
>> them and the price on screen is X, you expect to pay X, plus some
>> negligible
>> amount for postage. You to /not/ expect to pay 1.5 X.
>
> What was the increase? Postage?
Apparently the item was shipped from SOUTH KOREA. (!) Not saying that it
was made in an underground sweatshop, but it *is* South Korea...
When I bought it, there was no indication that it was coming from
another country, or that it wasn't actually being sold by Amazon.
> Did you buy from amazon, or from someone
> selling their stuff through amazon?
I really, *really* hate it that you can buy something on Amazon, and
it's not actually being sold by Amazon. To me, this is fraud, and should
not be allowed. It is /also/ fraud to sell second-hand items and claim
that they are "new". Being in "nearly new condition" is not, and will
never be, the same thing as being "new".
>> But hey, what can you do? It's not as if you can, I don't know, /file a
>> complaint/ or anything. Nor that they would even /care/ if you did...
>
> I think you underestimate amazon's customer service. They're one of the
> best in the business.
O RLY?
Then why is there no way of filing a complaint? Why do I have to dig
through twenty five menu pages to get at an actual telephone number? Why
is it so damned hard to contact them?
(I might also ask "why is the Internet so full of people being given the
run-around by their customer service department", but I guess the answer
is that /every/ large company has that...)
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>> It's actually quite an interesting problem. What is the cheapest way to
>> manufacture: a) 1 CD, b) 100 CDs, c) 10000 CDs, d) 1000000 CDs. You can
>> do the same for cars, circuit boards, bikes, organs, whatever.
>
> The cheapest was to manufacture 1 CD is obviously to pay somebody else
> to do it.
Sure, that's often the case for most things you only want 1 of. But how
would they actually make your 1 CD? I guess they'd take a CDR and burn it.
> As far as I know, it's impossible to manufacture a CD in your basement.
> You need cleanroom conditions and equipment that can operate at
> literally microscopic tolerances.
Which if you're planning to make a million every day won't be a problem
to arrange.
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>> The cheapest was to manufacture 1 CD is obviously to pay somebody else
>> to do it.
>
> Sure, that's often the case for most things you only want 1 of.
Definitely.
> But how
> would they actually make your 1 CD? I guess they'd take a CDR and burn it.
That's what I've read, yes. Most companies specialising in CD
duplication use CD-R for low-volume stuff. You'd be mad not to.
>> As far as I know, it's impossible to manufacture a CD in your basement.
>> You need cleanroom conditions and equipment that can operate at
>> literally microscopic tolerances.
>
> Which if you're planning to make a million every day won't be a problem
> to arrange.
I'm sure you still can't fit it in your basement though. ;-)
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On 13/04/2012 8:55 AM, Invisible wrote:
> That's still quite a bit less than the £800,000 I was expecting to pay
> for the most basic entry-level Ferrari.
Go on treat yourself
http://www.compucars.co.uk/used-cars/ferrari/?o=cheap
--
Regards
Stephen
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