This crosses the line between stupid and outright sick in the head:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2079940/Dead-man-killed-tragic-train-collision-CAN-sued-woman-injured-flying-body-parts.html

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On 2/18/2012 11:30, Warp wrote:
>    This crosses the line between stupid and outright sick in the head:

Meh. She's suing the estate to get paid her medical expenses.  A bit gory, 
but remember we don't have government-paid medicine here.  If she sues the 
train company and it gets turned down on the grounds "don't be an idiot, 
it's a train", then she sues the idiot. :-)

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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> On 2/18/2012 11:30, Warp wrote:
> >    This crosses the line between stupid and outright sick in the head:

> Meh. She's suing the estate to get paid her medical expenses.  A bit gory, 
> but remember we don't have government-paid medicine here.

  I don't understand how that justifies it in any way.

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On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:33:48 -0500, Warp wrote:

> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> On 2/18/2012 11:30, Warp wrote:
>> >    This crosses the line between stupid and outright sick in the
>> >    head:
> 
>> Meh. She's suing the estate to get paid her medical expenses.  A bit
>> gory,
>> but remember we don't have government-paid medicine here.
> 
>   I don't understand how that justifies it in any way.

Person commits suicide in a way that causes injury to another party.  The 
other party is entitled to have their injuries paid by the estate (or 
insurance company, depending on the circumstances) of the person who 
committed suicide.

It's pretty straightforward.  It wasn't her fault she was injured, and 
the medical expenses were presumably considerable - so why should she 
have to pay for it out of pocket?

The person responsible for the injury is also responsible for the 
expenses.

Jim

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Am 19.02.2012 20:33, schrieb Warp:
> Darren New<dne### [at] sanrrcom>  wrote:
>> On 2/18/2012 11:30, Warp wrote:
>>>     This crosses the line between stupid and outright sick in the head:
>
>> Meh. She's suing the estate to get paid her medical expenses.  A bit gory,
>> but remember we don't have government-paid medicine here.
>
>    I don't understand how that justifies it in any way.

Picture yourself in that woman's position: One moment you are standing 
on the platform thinking no harm and doing nothing wrong, next moment 
you've got a broken leg and wrist; the hospital won't give you any care 
unless they know who's paying; your medical insurance isn't, due to some 
random loophole of the policy (so now you know why it was so cheap that 
you could afford it); neither is the government, because hey, this is 
America, so don't any government dare take from the rich and give to the 
poor.

Bottom line: Unless you want to spend the future walking around with a 
crippled leg and wrist, you've got to find /someone/ to blame for your 
misfortune and force them to pay.

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Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> Person commits suicide

  He didn't, but even if he did, it wouldn't make any difference.

> It wasn't her fault she was injured

  It wasn't the fault of the relatives of the deceased that an accident
happened. Why would it?

  If someone accidentally falls off a cliff and smashes your car, are you
going to sue his relatives to pay up for the repairs? No, it was an
accident. The relatives are in no way responsible for anything.

> and the medical expenses were presumably considerable

  Completely inconsequential. They could be a hundred billion of dollars,
and it would make no difference.

> - so why should she have to pay for it out of pocket?

  Blame the healtcare system of the US.

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clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
> Picture yourself in that woman's position: One moment you are standing 
> on the platform thinking no harm and doing nothing wrong, next moment 
> you've got a broken leg and wrist; the hospital won't give you any care 
> unless they know who's paying; your medical insurance isn't, due to some 
> random loophole of the policy (so now you know why it was so cheap that 
> you could afford it); neither is the government, because hey, this is 
> America, so don't any government dare take from the rich and give to the 
> poor.

> Bottom line: Unless you want to spend the future walking around with a 
> crippled leg and wrist, you've got to find /someone/ to blame for your 
> misfortune and force them to pay.

  So the solution to the problem of having a shitty healthcare system is
to sue people around until someone else pays your medial bills?

  No, just no.

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On 19-2-2012 22:11, Warp wrote:
> clipka<ano### [at] anonymousorg>  wrote:
>> Picture yourself in that woman's position: One moment you are standing
>> on the platform thinking no harm and doing nothing wrong, next moment
>> you've got a broken leg and wrist; the hospital won't give you any care
>> unless they know who's paying; your medical insurance isn't, due to some
>> random loophole of the policy (so now you know why it was so cheap that
>> you could afford it); neither is the government, because hey, this is
>> America, so don't any government dare take from the rich and give to the
>> poor.
>
>> Bottom line: Unless you want to spend the future walking around with a
>> crippled leg and wrist, you've got to find /someone/ to blame for your
>> misfortune and force them to pay.
>
>    So the solution to the problem of having a shitty healthcare system is
> to sue people around until someone else pays your medial bills?

Not only the medical bills but also the lawyer's. Still, it makes sense 
if you think of it in the USAsian way. Just be glad that you don't have 
to live there.
God is lucky not to have a representative on earth or he would be sued 
for every accident that can not be blamed on any human being.

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andrel <byt### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> Not only the medical bills but also the lawyer's. Still, it makes sense 
> if you think of it in the USAsian way. Just be glad that you don't have 
> to live there.
> God is lucky not to have a representative on earth or he would be sued 
> for every accident that can not be blamed on any human being.

  Sometimes some people try the same here, but it seldom succeeds, and
even when it does, the payoff is usually very small. That's because here
there's basic public healthcare that takes care of any injuries at no cost,
and compensation for "emotional trauma" is usually of rational size, rather
than being the millions of dollars typical of the US.

  (In principle you could want to go to a private hospital instead, which
the government does not cover, and try to sue for your medical expenses,
but I don't think it would be very likely to succeed precisely because
the free alternative is there, and you deliberately chose not to use it,
so it's your fault if you get medical bills.)

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On 19-2-2012 23:07, Warp wrote:
> andrel<byt### [at] gmailcom>  wrote:
>> Not only the medical bills but also the lawyer's. Still, it makes sense
>> if you think of it in the USAsian way. Just be glad that you don't have
>> to live there.
>> God is lucky not to have a representative on earth or he would be sued
>> for every accident that can not be blamed on any human being.
>
>    Sometimes some people try the same here, but it seldom succeeds, and
> even when it does, the payoff is usually very small.

You are thinking of individual people. The insurance companies sue each 
other all the time. Luckily most often on a level that leaves the 
victims out of it.


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