At the risk of sounding dumb... It is actually possible to operate an 
iPod without using iTunes? Or should I just go out and buy a real MP3 
player?

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On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 20:18:05 +0000, Orchid XP v8 wrote:

> At the risk of sounding dumb... It is actually possible to operate an
> iPod without using iTunes? 

Yes.

I've been using an iPod mini for years and never have used iTunes (iTunes 
isn't available for Linux).

Jim

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Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> At the risk of sounding dumb... It is actually possible to operate an
> iPod without using iTunes? Or should I just go out and buy a real MP3
> player?
>


I've used a couple of linux apps,  podracer and I think ones like gpod or
hpodder, to manage music and podcasts on a very early version ipod (the white
2GB 2"x4" model).  But it's hopelessly clunky and I got tired of living the
ghetto.

The Apple capabilities of Smart Playlists (mixing unplayed podcasts and
least-recently-played music) do not exist to my knowledge in Linux or Android.

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On 11/07/2011 03:47 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 20:18:05 +0000, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>
>> At the risk of sounding dumb... It is actually possible to operate an
>> iPod without using iTunes?
>
> Yes.
>
> I've been using an iPod mini for years and never have used iTunes (iTunes
> isn't available for Linux).
>
> Jim

My linux recognizes the device and I'm able to drill into it just fine, 
and add pictures and music without problems but apps ... well a 
different story. I installed iTunes under CrossOver (a Wine 
implementation) ... and I'm good to go! BTW: talk about BloatWare ... 
iTunes would definitely qualify, but shhh ... I'd never admit saying 
that as my son works for Apple.

The other Jim

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On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 15:59:29 -0500, Jim Holsenback wrote:

> My linux recognizes the device and I'm able to drill into it just fine,
> and add pictures and music without problems but apps ... well a
> different story. I installed iTunes under CrossOver (a Wine
> implementation) ... and I'm good to go! BTW: talk about BloatWare ...
> iTunes would definitely qualify, but shhh ... I'd never admit saying
> that as my son works for Apple.

:)

For managing music, I use gnupod myself.  The mini doesn't really support 
photos or apps, so as just a straight music player, it works fine.

Jim

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On 11/7/2011 12:18, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> At the risk of sounding dumb... It is actually possible to operate an iPod
> without using iTunes? Or should I just go out and buy a real MP3 player?

If you're looking for an excellent stand-alone MP3 player, I highly 
recommend the sansa clip. It gets everything right. The built-in radio might 
not do the right frequencies for your country, tho, you might want to check 
on that if you care.

http://www.sandisk.com/products/sansa-music-and-video-players/sandisk-sansa-clipplus-mp3-player

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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
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Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> At the risk of sounding dumb... It is actually possible to operate an
> iPod without using iTunes? Or should I just go out and buy a real MP3
> player?
>
> --
> http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
> http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*

Why would you want an iPod? (i'm not an apple hater, serious question)
For me, the most important thing in an mp3-player is audio quality, and from
what i heard that's not a particular strength of the iPod.

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On 07/11/2011 10:25 PM, Roman Reiner wrote:

> Why would you want an iPod? (i'm not an apple hater, serious question)
> For me, the most important thing in an mp3-player is audio quality, and from
> what i heard that's not a particular strength of the iPod.

An iPod certainly wouldn't be the thing I'd choose to go out and buy. 
(For a start it's presumably at least 15x the price of every comparaible 
device on the market...)

No, it's more the case that we happen to *have* an iPod now, and I'm 
wondering whether it's possible to use it or not.

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On 07/11/2011 08:59 PM, Jim Holsenback wrote:
> On 11/07/2011 03:47 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:

> The other Jim

Oh my god... There really are two! o_O

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"Roman Reiner" <lim### [at] gmxde> wrote:
>
> Why would you want an iPod? (i'm not an apple hater, serious question)

The playlist I listen to on my commute is a random mix of:
i) Favorite songs on heavy rotation (but least recently played in this set)
ii) Bearable songs on light rotation (but least recently played)
iii) Podcasts (randomly selected from unplayed from about 20 subscriptions).

If I am playing it with family in the car and one podcast episode is too boring
for them, I can skip ahead, and the ipod remembers where I was, and next time I
play it, picks up where I left off.

Each day I want to go refresh the playlist (get new podcasts, get played songs
off of it), it can be as simple as one mouse click operation (that of eject when
complete) to finish it.


In contrast, when I was using Linux's podracer and an iRiver player, I was
always in fear that something might happen to my power, because I'd lose track
of what was played. And fuggettabout making complex playlists.

Does anything like this exist for Android/Linux? (I am an ex-apple hater,
serious question).   (Anyone suggesting Google Listen hasn't tried it: try
adding a subscription ,that doesn't show up on their crippled search engine, on
an Android device).

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