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On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 09:15:43 +0100, Invisible wrote:
> You make America sound like how Europe was four centuries ago.
Well, it's a diverse country....so it's hard to make a broad sweeping
generalisation like that.
Some places it's fine to be an atheist, others not so much. I'm in Utah
and am an atheist, but I don't advertise it so much (though most of my
friends here wouldn't particularly care, whether they're LDS or not).
But I think I'd avoid making it known while in places like rural areas in
the southeast.
Jim
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On 10/19/2011 12:03 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 09:15:43 +0100, Invisible wrote:
>
>> You make America sound like how Europe was four centuries ago.
>
> Well, it's a diverse country....so it's hard to make a broad sweeping
> generalisation like that.
>
> Some places it's fine to be an atheist, others not so much. I'm in Utah
> and am an atheist, but I don't advertise it so much (though most of my
> friends here wouldn't particularly care, whether they're LDS or not).
>
> But I think I'd avoid making it known while in places like rural areas in
> the southeast.
>
> Jim
Pharyngula has been running stuff recently from people on "Why I am an
atheist". One of the recent entries is from someone in Mississippi.
Doesn't say that its "dangerous" per-say to be one, but definitely
damned inconvenient, if they ever came out and said so. I would argue
that there are probably a "few" places in some of those states where
"inconvenient" goes a bit beyond just not having anyone at all listen to
anything you ever say, or the like. There are some real nuts in this
country, more so even than the people running for office, and, pretty
much by definition, such people are scared to death of being alone, so
they tend to congregate all in one place. This means either clubs (if in
larger cities), but little opportunity to really hurt anyone, or,
possibly, whole bloody towns, in places where the "law" is one of their
own members.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/10/19/why-i-am-an-atheist-lucretius-of-mississippi/
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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Many Americans seem to live in a bubble
Date: 19 Oct 2011 21:40:03
Message: <4e9f7bf3@news.povray.org>
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On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:33:26 -0700, Patrick Elliott wrote:
> Pharyngula has been running stuff recently from people on "Why I am an
> atheist". One of the recent entries is from someone in Mississippi.
> Doesn't say that its "dangerous" per-say to be one, but definitely
> damned inconvenient, if they ever came out and said so. I would argue
> that there are probably a "few" places in some of those states where
> "inconvenient" goes a bit beyond just not having anyone at all listen to
> anything you ever say, or the like. There are some real nuts in this
> country, more so even than the people running for office, and, pretty
> much by definition, such people are scared to death of being alone, so
> they tend to congregate all in one place. This means either clubs (if in
> larger cities), but little opportunity to really hurt anyone, or,
> possibly, whole bloody towns, in places where the "law" is one of their
> own members.
Absolutely - it's hard to even generalise about a region or even a small
town.
Jim
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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Many Americans seem to live in a bubble
Date: 20 Oct 2011 10:07:41
Message: <4ea02b2d@news.povray.org>
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On 10/17/2011 9:14 AM, Invisible wrote:
> But yeah, these days, aside from a few people who are like "all them
> niggers should **** off back to their own country", most people in
> Britain don't walk around thinking they're better than the rest of the
> world, or even just the rest of Europe.
Oooh, that's a big no-no here in the USA, I didn't think that word was
used outside of our country... But I guess it is.
>
> You realise that a lot of people think your entire country is filled
> with morons and crazy people, right?
>
Yeah, I'm completely aware of it, and understand the perception.
> I mean, damn, I have no idea what people who aren't British think about
> Britain - probably that we all eat fish & chips and drink beer all day
> or something - but AFAIK, they don't think we're crazy. At least, I hope
> not. o_O
Nope... I don't see Britain as crazy. Nor do I see them as eating fish
and chips. But ... the beer.... well, your pints are bigger than our
pints-- and you have real beer as opposed to this watery stuff that
sells in droves over here.
--
~Mike
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On 10/17/2011 2:24 PM, Darren New wrote:
> On 10/17/2011 7:03, Mike Raiford wrote:
>> As if GB has never said that they are superior? ;)
>
> Actually, I spent several minutes trying to figure out which George Bush
> you were talking about here.
>
Neh.. That would either be W or GHWB. :)
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~Mike
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On 20/10/2011 3:07 PM, Mike Raiford wrote:
> On 10/17/2011 9:14 AM, Invisible wrote:
>
>> But yeah, these days, aside from a few people who are like "all them
>> niggers should **** off back to their own country", most people in
>> Britain don't walk around thinking they're better than the rest of the
>> world, or even just the rest of Europe.
>
> Oooh, that's a big no-no here in the USA, I didn't think that word was
> used outside of our country... But I guess it is.
It is a big no-no here too.
--
Regards
Stephen
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On 10/20/2011 7:23 AM, Stephen wrote:
> On 20/10/2011 3:07 PM, Mike Raiford wrote:
>> On 10/17/2011 9:14 AM, Invisible wrote:
>>
>>> But yeah, these days, aside from a few people who are like "all them
>>> niggers should **** off back to their own country", most people in
>>> Britain don't walk around thinking they're better than the rest of the
>>> world, or even just the rest of Europe.
>>
>> Oooh, that's a big no-no here in the USA, I didn't think that word was
>> used outside of our country... But I guess it is.
>
> It is a big no-no here too.
>
Interesting question though, is it a no-no for everyone, or do you have
things like The Boondocks, over there too, and other black
entertainment, where the black people use it all the time, but white
people are never supposed to?
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On 10/19/2011 6:40 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:33:26 -0700, Patrick Elliott wrote:
>
>> Pharyngula has been running stuff recently from people on "Why I am an
>> atheist". One of the recent entries is from someone in Mississippi.
>> Doesn't say that its "dangerous" per-say to be one, but definitely
>> damned inconvenient, if they ever came out and said so. I would argue
>> that there are probably a "few" places in some of those states where
>> "inconvenient" goes a bit beyond just not having anyone at all listen to
>> anything you ever say, or the like. There are some real nuts in this
>> country, more so even than the people running for office, and, pretty
>> much by definition, such people are scared to death of being alone, so
>> they tend to congregate all in one place. This means either clubs (if in
>> larger cities), but little opportunity to really hurt anyone, or,
>> possibly, whole bloody towns, in places where the "law" is one of their
>> own members.
>
> Absolutely - it's hard to even generalise about a region or even a small
> town.
>
> Jim
Except that for such towns to exist, you kind of need a lot of other
towns around them, and a state, which doesn't precisely condone such
things, but does turn a blind eye to them, because of a general sense
that, "Those buggers might go a wee bit too far, but in general, the
sentiment is right."
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On 20/10/2011 11:41 PM, Patrick Elliott wrote:
>>
>> It is a big no-no here too.
>>
> Interesting question though, is it a no-no for everyone, or do you
> have things like The Boondocks, over there too, and other black
> entertainment, where the black people use it all the time, but white
> people are never supposed to?
I can't answer that question so I'll answer another one. ;-)
--
Regards
Stephen
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>>> But yeah, these days, aside from a few people who are like "all them
>>> niggers should **** off back to their own country", most people in
>>> Britain don't walk around thinking they're better than the rest of the
>>> world, or even just the rest of Europe.
>>
>> Oooh, that's a big no-no here in the USA, I didn't think that word was
>> used outside of our country... But I guess it is.
>
> It is a big no-no here too.
I think it's a no-no everywhere. But there's always a few arrogant
self-righteous morons who think they're better than everyone else.
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